Since Corey is no longer on this forum, I have something to mention about not actually having an inp but using a twitch recording instead! Why is there just a twitch recording under alot of people's names without an inp next to their name on the HSL? I noticed that they just had twitch beside their name and nothing else either! Some just had the inp too! So to me my first score should've been accepted even though yes it was only 400 points more! But since I had a PB tonight anyways, It doesn't matter! I thought I would mention this! Since Corey was a little rude about this to me! :-(.
INPs were never a requirement here, my score and many other arcade scores do not use INP's, twitch is the acceptable method as long as it shows the game from the beginning to end.
Jason, I am on this forum, I am right here. The inp is and has been a requirement. I have spilled a lot of text explaining this to you, offering proposals, and writing out the rules. To date, there has never been one reversal to the rules for the list, and this has only strengthened its credibility. Because of the fact that someone might mistakenly forget, or just in practice, put up a new personal best, such as in the case of Christian or Robbie, through contemplation, it was devised to allow other supporting evidences in order to address the concerns that the inp requirement addressed. What could be verified should be verified. We have to understand that the relevance and the reliability of the list should stand not only for those in the community who have verified scores and know that they are genuine, but to have a list that stands on its own under the scrutiny of any onlooker.
The reason you see scores without inp's is because the Arcade format simply does not create them, but again, we would not accept direct video feed as an acceptable method of submitting either. That is why there are specific rules that address mere window capture streaming formats. Neither Christian nor Robbie used this format. Their formats are more similar to the Arcade streaming which shows us that it is a cab and that it is a real person actually playing the game, with sounds of inputs etc. Concerning Christian and Robbie, their monitors can be clearly seen, evidence that the program was actually started on their computers, their screens can be seen to verify that no video playing software is open and being used, often we can see the process of them saving the inp files, the entire process can be seen and verified. That is why the rules state the following:
Normative Rules:
5. All MAME submissions are to include an attached zip folder with the .inp and .wlf files.
Auxillary Rules:
7. The requirement for .inp and .wlf files addresses the possible falsification of a streamed game. If for some reason the player does not record their input along with their stream then they must demonstrate other evidences to address these concerns. These concerns predominantly include window capture only streaming formats. These evidences include: 1) showing the start up process of the game by clicking on the game in WolfMAME so we can see it is being started by the WolfMAME program. 2) At the end of the game, after the initials are entered, start another game while the game is still running. 3) Using the monitor capture format or using a webcam facing your monitor will enable people to see that you do not have any video software open on the bottom of the screen and that you are actually starting and playing a game live on Twitch.
Streaming Rules:
3. It is highly recommended that any streaming, whether Arcade or MAME, show the player who is playing the game, and are encouraged to have audio available with a microphone so we can hear the player and game inputs. The more evidence that you can provide on your streams will only strengthen your score’s credibility.
4. Streaming formats that only capture your MAME window will automatically require the .inp and .wlf files. Therefore, it is highly recommended that you either have the .inp and .wlf files, or make sure that you are using the full monitor capture, or a webcam facing your monitor, or have as much supporting evidence as possible so that there can be no question concerning the validity of your scores.
Jason, if you have any more questions or concerns that relate to the rules, their meaning, and the history of its composition, then please let me know. Otherwise, just follow the rules and don't complain about it. Just because you got caught not following the rules does not mean that they will be changed, altered, or God help me, reversed or contradicted to cater to your methods.
Just because I retired from managing the lists, updating them, and verifying inps and streams does not mean that I have no interest in them or that I have no desire to support and defend the list and their rules.
