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Re: Wildcard Rematch #2 Scoreboard
« Reply #120 on: March 22, 2013, 08:39:04 pm »
Also, there is nearly no challenge at all on the killscreen to survive long enough to trigger the screenkill.

I like the precise usage of terms.

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Re: Wildcard Rematch #2 Scoreboard
« Reply #121 on: March 22, 2013, 08:43:10 pm »
The Official Unofficial list of Killscreeners who did not Screenkill
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Vincent Lemay (inaugural member and president) - cause of death: greed
Ethan Daniels - overexcitement
Mike Groesbeck - fumbling with the camera

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Re: Wildcard Rematch #2 Scoreboard
« Reply #122 on: March 22, 2013, 09:55:23 pm »
Nevermind.   Jeff, and Hank make a good argumentation that far exceeds mine.  That's my whole point.   I am the Donkey Kong ignorant like Ben Affleck is in Good Will Hunting.  Hank Chien, and Jeff are the Matt Damon character who actually know what they are talking about! :)

They made some points that seem logical but do not hold up to the reality of the killscreen issue. They make assumptions and speak in hypotheticals that are not really relevant.

When stripped of all that it comes down to what Dave said.. Did you die or did the game kill you. Simple. Game.. Set... Match. ANYTHING other than that is subject to interpretation... the meaning of screen, the compound word, the bug has already showed on the screen.. NONE of it matters. Did the game kill you or did you die for any other reason. If you die for any reason you could die on on any other level you die and did not reach the end of the game, commonly called the killscreen. If you reached the point where you the player can no longer continue for reasons beyond your control you have reached the killscreen.

Again... Did you die or did the game kill you? The answer is your answer.
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« Reply #123 on: March 22, 2013, 10:23:53 pm »
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« Reply #124 on: March 22, 2013, 10:36:21 pm »
I'm not saying I disagree with you Ken and Dave.  I can argue this either way.  My argument was purely a semantical one.  Killscreen is a term invented by gamers hence it can mean whatever we want it to mean.  Just to play devil's advocate:

You are saying to reach the killscreen the game must kill you off...

Does pacman have a killscreen?  Does the game actually kill you off?

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« Reply #125 on: March 22, 2013, 11:37:54 pm »
Does pacman have a killscreen?  Does the game actually kill you off?

Pacmans splitscreen does not technically kill you. It is however impassable as far we know effectively making it a killscreen. I think most of the top players call it the split screen not the kill screen FWIW.
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Re: Wildcard Rematch #2 Scoreboard
« Reply #126 on: March 22, 2013, 11:44:37 pm »
The Dig Dug kill screen is a lot simpler. You get there and you're dead!
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Re: Wildcard Rematch #2 Scoreboard
« Reply #127 on: March 22, 2013, 11:52:12 pm »
The Dig Dug kill screen is a lot simpler. You get there and you're dead!

I think i saw that screen one time  ;)
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Re: Wildcard Rematch #2 Scoreboard
« Reply #128 on: March 23, 2013, 01:15:44 am »
The reason I first asked this was because of a drunk debate with my friends.
I was arguing the fact that your dead anyway so who cares it's a kill screen. Then my mate posed the question to me about digdug, if you lose your last man on the last enemy on the screen being crushed by a rock, 1 screen before the kill screen can you say you made it cause either way you were dead anyway? I answered no you f'ed it up. Then he replied then what makes dk any different. That's what made me change to the fact that the bug has to kill you.
I'm still not sure tho cause you activate the bug as soon as lvl 22 starts, but if you die before it . Was the bug there?
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Re: Wildcard Rematch #2 Scoreboard
« Reply #129 on: March 23, 2013, 01:25:51 am »
I understand both sides of the argument.   I was about 70 odd boards off a killscreen, but I assumed the a killscreen bounty would mean seeing the the killscreen bug occur.

If, and it's a very big if, I ever make it to level 22-1 and die before I see the bug I would not consider that I killscreened the game and I would also be throwing various pieces of computer gear around the room after dying before seeing it.

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« Reply #130 on: March 23, 2013, 06:27:40 am »
It funny how much this topic is going because I would say the percent  chance of someone dying on the kill screen before it times out is about 1% or less. Its just the weirdest thing that it happened on a bounty, otherwise this discussion would have probably never come up.

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Re: Wildcard Rematch #2 Scoreboard
« Reply #131 on: March 23, 2013, 06:36:37 am »
To me I personally think the score is more important than the killscreen.  I would rather have a million point game with no killscreen over an 850,000 point with a killscreen.   Of course the game I am best at is DK3, and that is the one where there is no real killscreen.  I get the beauty of having to become more, and more technical with your game because there is a killscreen, but the killscreen itself is not the end all, and be all of the game.

The killscreen to me is the cherry on top on the banana split sundae.   Even without the cherry the banana split sundae is still awesome!
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Re: Wildcard Rematch #2 Scoreboard
« Reply #132 on: March 23, 2013, 07:08:16 am »
yeah i dont really care either way, its just an interesting debate, should probably be split to its own thread...

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Re: Wildcard Rematch #2 Scoreboard
« Reply #133 on: March 23, 2013, 08:05:30 am »
first person to reach the kill screen. 22-1 is the kill screen. 1-1 is the first screen of the game.

If one reached the kill screen with two lives, the kill screen glitch takes the first, then the player loses the last life accidentally, then what?
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Re: Wildcard Rematch #2 Scoreboard
« Reply #134 on: March 23, 2013, 09:04:22 am »
It funny how much this topic is going because I would say the percent  chance of someone dying on the kill screen before it times out is about 1% or less. Its just the weirdest thing that it happened on a bounty, otherwise this discussion would have probably never come up.
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