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Title: What happens to a badge when a record holder loses their record?
Post by: homerwannabee on July 09, 2014, 02:46:25 pm
Does the badge vanish or will it change color, and say something like former world record holder?  For instance Hank Chien may very well lose his record in the next couple of months if things continue to shape up like they have.
Title: Re: What happens to a badge when a record holder loses their record?
Post by: tudose on July 09, 2014, 02:49:12 pm
the badge would be transferred to robbie's account
Title: Re: What happens to a badge when a record holder loses their record?
Post by: ChrisP on July 09, 2014, 04:41:01 pm
Yes.

This has actually happened a few times now, including Jeff Wolfe losing the NH WR to Jon McKinnell, and the Crazy Kong arcade record.

Also, from what I've been seeing on FB, something tells me that Hank isn't the only guy you're worried is about to lose a WR badge! :)
Title: Re: What happens to a badge when a record holder loses their record?
Post by: homerwannabee on July 09, 2014, 05:20:41 pm
Yes.

This has actually happened a few times now, including Jeff Wolfe losing the NH WR to Jon McKinnell, and the Crazy Kong arcade record.

Also, from what I've been seeing on FB, something tells me that Hank isn't the only guy you're worried is about to lose a WR badge! :)

Yep, my DKJR MAME badge may very well be toppled by Corey Chambers pretty soon.  Strangely I wish him the best.   I am a big picture person, and see any record being broken as an enrichment of the competitive history of that game.  Also those who get a really high score on a game share a bond in a way because they know exactly what it takes to get a score like that, and so have a respect for their fellow player that is not the same as a novice player.
Title: Re: What happens to a badge when a record holder loses their record?
Post by: alumbrada on July 09, 2014, 09:56:41 pm
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Title: Re: What happens to a badge when a record holder loses their record?
Post by: Donkey Kong Genius on July 10, 2014, 07:26:16 am
Thanks George. I think that maybe if someone has held a record for a a set number of years, or just in general, that there could be some badge that tracks who may have held a world record in the past. But I can also understand if the forum badges only track the currect WR holders. Even if I get the MAME WR on Junior, which almost happened yesterday, I can't imagine holding it for years. Depending on how good of a game I have it I may have to beat it or wait for it to be beat to get it back. But my main sites is to figure out how to get 1.4 on this thing without having to sack all my men.
Title: Re: What happens to a badge when a record holder loses their record?
Post by: hchien on July 10, 2014, 08:01:32 am
something tells me that Hank isn't the only guy you're worried is about to lose a WR badge! :)

I'm not really worried about losing the record (or the badge lol).  For quite some time, there have been several players capable of beating my score including myself.  I don't claim to be the best DK player, nor do I feel that I *own* that record.  I have not beaten it myself partly to silence the people who criticize me for beating my own scores but mostly because I lack the motivation and I'm getting busier at work and would prefer to spend my free time doing other things.  I'm honestly surprised the score has held up this long (almost 2 years now).

I look forward to seeing some new world records and attempting to get it back.  Summer (now) would be a good time for me to play (hint hint hint Robbie) as it's my offseason at work.

Title: Re: What happens to a badge when a record holder loses their record?
Post by: VON on July 10, 2014, 08:17:58 am
Hank, for those people who criticized you upping your own record, what was their logic?  It makes no sense to me.

Of course you should push your own record, until you can push no further, or you just get bored ;).
Title: Re: What happens to a badge when a record holder loses their record?
Post by: stella_blue on July 10, 2014, 02:07:47 pm
Hank, for those people who criticized you upping your own record, what was their logic?  It makes no sense to me.

Of course you should push your own record, until you can push no further, or you just get bored ;).


I agree completely.

I only wish you had changed the spelling to Furthur, as a touching GD tribute.   ;)

Title: Re: What happens to a badge when a record holder loses their record?
Post by: hchien on July 11, 2014, 08:46:10 am
Hank, for those people who criticized you upping your own record, what was their logic? 

The logic is usually along the lines of:

- you should let other people have a chance

- poor sportsmanship/being a bully

I've ranted before about why I feel these are nonsense, but yeah, doesn't make any sense to me either.
Title: Re: What happens to a badge when a record holder loses their record?
Post by: Xermon54 on July 11, 2014, 09:11:03 am
Hank gave us a chance to beat his record for 2 years. Robbie, myself, Ross, Jeff Wolfe and Jeff Willms got close, but couldn't beat it over that big period of time. That's how good Hank is.  <Billy>
Title: Re: What happens to a badge when a record holder loses their record?
Post by: hchien on July 11, 2014, 09:48:29 am
Since l so-called debuted on the scene at Richie Knucklez in 2009, there hasn't been anybody who's played even close.  <Billy>   Kappa

(http://www.classicarcadegaming.com/contests/CAGDCT2009/images/mda/053-s.jpg)

Spectator Hank Chien gives DK a go.
[Credit:  <Pigger>]
Title: Re: What happens to a badge when a record holder loses their record?
Post by: ChrisP on July 11, 2014, 01:08:52 pm
Just to play devil's advocate, I think I can understand the thinking on that side.

People know that the game can be maxed out, and that it's getting close-ish. I think they just want to see at least one new person hold the record before the max-out. But if Hank continues to push the score up until it can't be beaten anymore without a major freak game, then there's no shot at that "wow, new Donkey Kong champion!" moment.

I have to admit, I'm really curious to see how the world outside of CAG will react, in 2014, to the DK record being broken. It's been a long time since KoK, and you won't have that "smart plastic surgeon guy" angle. So I would suspect that it will get a fraction of the outside interest that it did in 2007-2010.

Personally I like that Hank continued to push the record up, with all these other guys busting their asses at DK, because it makes the top spot seem that much more elite. A lot of back-and-forth would cheapen it somehow.

Title: Re: What happens to a badge when a record holder loses their record?
Post by: marinomitch13 on July 11, 2014, 04:50:46 pm
Hank, for those people who criticized you upping your own record, what was their logic? 

The logic is usually along the lines of:

- you should let other people have a chance

- poor sportsmanship/being a bully

I've ranted before about why I feel these are nonsense, but yeah, doesn't make any sense to me either.

Amen and amen. I'm also one for not kowtowing to pressure that one ought to "let up and be nice". Push yourself and push your competition, that's what makes it both fun and meaningful for me.
Title: Re: What happens to a badge when a record holder loses their record?
Post by: stella_blue on July 11, 2014, 05:03:58 pm
Push yourself and push your competition, that's what makes it both fun and meaningful for me.

Before you make a run at Hank, maybe you should worry about catching me, tough guy.   ;)

No need to call security, I'll show myself out.

Title: Re: What happens to a badge when a record holder loses their record?
Post by: WCopeland on July 11, 2014, 06:53:23 pm
Push yourself and push your competition, that's what makes it both fun and meaningful for me.

Before you make a run at Hank, maybe you should worry about catching me, tough guy.   ;)

(http://i.imgur.com/KZ43NIf.gif)
Title: Re: What happens to a badge when a record holder loses their record?
Post by: lifereboot on July 11, 2014, 08:23:33 pm
Hank, for those people who criticized you upping your own record, what was their logic? 

The logic is usually along the lines of:

- you should let other people have a chance

- poor sportsmanship/being a bully

I've ranted before about why I feel these are nonsense, but yeah, doesn't make any sense to me either.

Hi Hank,

 I'm not sure if this is directed at me, but I do know that I have previously posted on a public forum how I considered you beating your own record to be "poor sportsmanship."  I used that phrase specifically, in a TG thread where a referee announced that some undisclosed player had recently improved his score.  Some people suggested it was Hank, but it was still unknown if you had beaten your record.  Before it was revealed that it was indeed you, I said that I hoped that it wasn't, since you already had the #1 spot, and that it was poor sportsmanship to compete against yourself in that manner.

 Please accept my apologies for ever saying those things.  I said them at a time where I was actively chasing the arcade record, and I didn't enjoy watching the record being pushed out of my reach.  My comments were made in frustration, and accusing you of being unsportsmanlike was unwarranted and unjust.  I'm sorry.

 When I made those comments, I hadn't been in the DK world long enough to understand that it's "all of us versus the machine."  After years of trying to finish a DK game at pace to take the record, and always falling short, I have so much more respect for your ability to knock your personal best higher, again and again.  I have similar respect for all of the players that can consistently churn out million point scores.

 And finally, I made those stupid comments before I met you in person.  Having met you several times since then, I know that you're not a malicious person -- you're a champ.

 I hope you can accept my apology.  Even if you're not talking about me specifically now, two years ago I contributed to that negative mentality, and that was all because of my own insecurities.

Cheers and good luck, to whoever manages to push the record up next.

-Shaun
Title: Re: What happens to a badge when a record holder loses their record?
Post by: marinomitch13 on July 11, 2014, 10:31:37 pm
Push yourself and push your competition, that's what makes it both fun and meaningful for me.

Before you make a run at Hank, maybe you should worry about catching me, tough guy.   ;)

No need to call security, I'll show myself out.

Alright. Scott just issued a hit out on himself.  ;)  ;D  :P

But, seriously, I should play again sometime soon. Work has been keeping me busy enough as of recently that I'm starting to get the DK itch again. I should harness that to do some serious runs at about 1M pace. My weakness is always the Springs when I play cold turkey like, though... which is a serious hinderance.

Also, in response to Shaun's post to Hank: Class act apology. I won't deny that I've lusted after the DK record, but I agree that there is great camaraderie formed when you take on the "us vs the machine" mentality. Even that is motivation enough for many, it seems.
Title: Re: What happens to a badge when a record holder loses their record?
Post by: Donkey Kong Genius on July 12, 2014, 01:28:48 am
Speak for yourselves. I am going after George Riley and his puppet, Mr. Sock! :P
Title: Re: What happens to a badge when a record holder loses their record?
Post by: hchien on July 12, 2014, 07:09:49 am
PM sent to Shaun.  Everything is good!
Title: Re: What happens to a badge when a record holder loses their record?
Post by: Xermon54 on July 12, 2014, 07:44:42 am
Don't worry Shaun, you just had a different opinion on the world record. It's sometime easy to judge/misunderstand someone when we don't know this person. The community 2-3 years ago was very different than the community today.

Look at me: Before I met Hank, I must be honest, I judged him a lot (for several reasons). And now that I actually met him several times, for the past 4 years... I judge him even more  Kappa
Title: Re: What happens to a badge when a record holder loses their record?
Post by: lakeman421 on July 12, 2014, 09:36:35 am
PM sent to Shaun.  Everything is good!
Shaun apologized to Hank and everything! : - )