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Title: Which method?
Post by: Jonesy on February 26, 2013, 12:41:46 pm
Hey guys,

Ok so i'm currently chasing my first DK Jr Kill screen.....i'm up to level 16-4 with a score of 551,100.

I do point press but i don't squeeze every point from each screen as my score would suggest as it seems pointless as i'm not good enough to reach the kill screen yet. So my qestion is this...for you guys that have reached the kill screen on this game, did you just go for the kill screen and accomplish this before you started pressing for points or did you go for maximum points regardless.

Thanks,

Jonesy
Title: Re: Which method?
Post by: TheSunshineFund on February 26, 2013, 01:16:07 pm
Hey guys,

Ok so i'm currently chasing my first DK Jr Kill screen.....i'm up to level 16-4 with a score of 551,100.

I do point press but i don't squeeze every point from each screen as my score would suggest as it seems pointless as i'm not good enough to reach the kill screen yet. So my qestion is this...for you guys that have reached the kill screen on this game, did you just go for the kill screen and accomplish this before you started pressing for points or did you go for maximum points regardless.

Thanks,

Jonesy

I went for the ks first, primarily from the perspective of it being a personal goal.
Title: Re: Which method?
Post by: homerwannabee on February 26, 2013, 03:01:16 pm
Well here is a video about right around when I was about to killscreen the game if I am not mistaken.  As you can see I was still playing it on Java.  I personally did the point pressing I felt comfortable with, and left it at that.

As I killscreened the game I decided to add a new trick before I made it to another killscreen, and so I slowly progressed to it.

Edit: Just want to say I think it's cool that your into Donkey Kong Junior, and have a pretty good score.  Welcome to the club! 8)

My Donkey Kong Junior arcade strategies with commentary,tips, and tricks (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qF7PCY7zZfk#)
Title: Re: Which method?
Post by: Simpsons99 on February 26, 2013, 04:35:47 pm
Nope i allmost added everything to my gameplay when i got my first KS .

Title: Re: Which method?
Post by: Jonesy on February 27, 2013, 12:57:42 am

I'm pretty confortable with my game, if/when i get my KS i can concentrate more on points then i guess, i need to stop taking risks and rushing!

Thanks for the clip George, i have in fact watched that clip many times 8) and it has been useful! I subscribed to your channel a few days ago.

The chains has recently become my problem screen but i'm almost there.

Here is a clip of me making life difficult for myself on the birds stage!!   ;D

Donkey Kong Junior bird level struggle (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AC4oEo7yAK4#ws)


Cheers!
Title: Re: Which method?
Post by: marky_d on February 27, 2013, 07:20:36 am
The first Junior killscreen I got was in the low 800k range with minimal point pressing. If a person did want their first Junior killscreen to be above 1 million, it wouldn't be too much trouble considering the basic pressing techniques are very low-risk and very lucrative.
Title: Re: Which method?
Post by: Jonesy on February 27, 2013, 02:12:09 pm
The first Junior killscreen I got was in the low 800k range with minimal point pressing. If a person did want their first Junior killscreen to be above 1 million, it wouldn't be too much trouble considering the basic pressing techniques are very low-risk and very lucrative.

I shall certainly persevere and update any progress, an 800k KS would do me just fine!!  8)
Title: Re: Which method?
Post by: Jonesy on March 01, 2013, 08:46:45 am

New high score

648,300

Level 16-4 again but i was pressing for points a little more

It's the damned chains level every single time, i lost my last 2 lives in under 20 seconds of each other! The amount of space to be safe is so small!

Ah well, i'll just have to keep chasing!!
Title: Re: Which method?
Post by: Jonesy on March 03, 2013, 08:38:17 am
Still chasing,

New high score 724,500

Level 19-1 or 'C' as it's displayed.

Title: Re: Which method?
Post by: marky_d on March 03, 2013, 09:10:44 am
Oh wow, you are almost there...maybe next game?
Title: Re: Which method?
Post by: Simpsons99 on March 03, 2013, 09:12:53 am
you must be screaming through screens
Title: Re: Which method?
Post by: Jonesy on March 03, 2013, 09:20:12 am
Hi guys,

I guess it could be any game now. Really enjoying the battle though.

I used to get stressed out, the higher the score the more nervous and stressed. I guess where the games are becoming bigger and more consistent it's all settled down and it's just a matter of playing the game and keeping it as cool as possible.

I will update if I get there :D

Title: Re: Which method?
Post by: marky_d on March 03, 2013, 11:32:00 am
If you really "scream" through the screens, your score will be in the upper 600k range for a full game.

If you get to the end, be sure to snap a pic!
Title: Re: Which method?
Post by: Jonesy on March 03, 2013, 11:54:50 am
If you really "scream" through the screens, your score will be in the upper 600k range for a full game.

If you get to the end, be sure to snap a pic!


I'm going to have to start taking the video camera with me now just in case.

I'm playing safe at the mo, the kill screen is my aim at the moment, when that is done, I will the try for bigger scores.
Title: Re: Which method?
Post by: homerwannabee on March 03, 2013, 11:55:55 am
Very awesome to see you up your score like this.   Just this month it seems we have two more people in the 700,000 club.  You, and Hank.     You know we really could have a Donkey Kong Junior Off right now.   There are enough modern names for it to happen.

Mark Kiehl
Billy Mitchell
Myself
Steve Wiebe
Steve Wagner
Claytin Brookins
Brian Allen
Ike Hall
Donald Hayes
Ben Falls
Hank Chien
Jonesy Kong
Dean Saglio
Jason Cram
Shawn Mcnear
Title: Re: Which method?
Post by: marky_d on March 03, 2013, 12:04:28 pm
No Ben Falls?
Title: Re: Which method?
Post by: Jonesy on March 03, 2013, 12:06:07 pm

Wow! I never thought i'd see my name amongst these guys!!
Title: Re: Which method?
Post by: homerwannabee on March 03, 2013, 12:07:51 pm
No Ben Falls?

Oops, there is now! 8)
Title: Re: Which method?
Post by: hchien on March 03, 2013, 02:39:13 pm
Jason Cram
Sam McNear

I'm sure there's lots we don't even know about.
Title: Re: Which method?
Post by: Simpsons99 on March 03, 2013, 04:34:56 pm
Very awesome to see you up your score like this.   Just this month it seems we have two more people in the 700,000 club.  You, and Hank.     You know we really could have a Donkey Kong Junior Off right now.   There are enough modern names for it to happen.

Mark Kiehl
Billy Mitchell
Myself
Steve Wiebe
Steve Wagner
Claytin Brookins
Brain Allen
Ike Hall
Donald Hayes
Ben Falls
Hank Chien
Jonesy Kong
Dean Saglio
BLAH  BRAIN ALLEN!
Title: Re: Which method?
Post by: homerwannabee on March 03, 2013, 04:40:15 pm
OK, those two included as well! 8)
Title: Re: Which method?
Post by: Simpsons99 on March 03, 2013, 05:33:29 pm
You allmost allways make that mistake with my name  ???
Title: Re: Which method? 900k killscreen (Junior)
Post by: marky_d on March 05, 2013, 06:02:23 pm
I don't feel this post deserves it's own thread, so I'll attach it here since it is somewhat related.

I was checking out a pizza place today, and ran into one of those DK/DKJr/MB multi cabinets stashed amongst an array of "modern" games and redemption machines. I had never seen one of these cabinets before in person, but I was aware that the high-score table is retained after powering down, so I decided to play a game or two. I got a couple of bucks in change from the manager and he made a comment about that not being very much. I mentioned my near geriatric status and my interest being focused on the one machine. He replied (as if I have never played them before), "Well, you might need more change than that, those games are pretty hard". I told him that I can hold my own with those games, and mentioned that I have the highest recorded game for Junior, but I get the feeling either he didn't believe me or he thought that I was confused as to what version of Junior I was about to take on. He did however say that he has watched KoK, and does play Junior himself, stating he had made it to "Level 8" before so I don't think his reaction was simply because he didn't care. He mentioned that he would be by to watch me play a little, and I thought I could clear some things up at that time but he never stopped by.

Anyways, when I started I was suprised that the top of the screen was cut off and you couldn't see the score. I was just going to play a "fast game" anyways, very little point-pressing, so it really didn't matter. I did play to ensure at least a 700k game, and when the game was over I was suprised to see over 900k, just barely over 900k, on the high score table which was nice.

You can see here, the score cut off at the top...kinda annoying.

(http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a618/markydkiehl/DKJr_ks_zpsecb0cb84.png)

What's up now, pizza-chewing kids? That's what I thought...

(http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a618/markydkiehl/1362520456401_zps7ea825fd.jpg)
Title: Re: Which method?
Post by: ChrisP on March 05, 2013, 06:19:53 pm
Haha, that's awesome! You curb-stomped their machine.

Arcade gaming needs to get to the point where you wouldn't even have to tell the guy who you were. He would stutter and stammer "Y---you're Mark Ki---Kiehl!" as women swooned.
Title: Re: Which method?
Post by: JCHarrist on March 05, 2013, 06:31:07 pm
Haha! Great story, Mark. Maybe Allen has started a trend by playing with the score covered up!  ;D
Title: Re: Which method?
Post by: TheSunshineFund on March 05, 2013, 07:02:53 pm
I love the triple DK.  At one point on the one in Long Beach Island in South Jersey at Fantasy Island where my family vacations every summer, I had the high score on all 3 which I thought was fun.  If memory serves unfortunately you can continue with the same score though.
Title: Re: Which method?
Post by: marky_d on March 05, 2013, 07:17:20 pm
If memory serves unfortunately you can continue with the same score though.

Yeah I think I heard this somewhere, and that is too bad. So theoretically you could continue until you got a score of 999k? So then there is no way to really prove you score is on one credit?
Title: Re: Which method?
Post by: hchien on March 05, 2013, 07:39:57 pm
I saw a bunch of these triple DK machines at the Dave and Busters (plural) in Long Island.  I took great joy in beating the multiple credit high score with a single credit.  Anyhow these machines definitely allow continues and even worse when you continue the score doesn't reset.

You be the judge:

Donkey Kong 905,500 Kill Screen (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7vi1P-LqUY#)

Oh read the youtube comments for some comic relief.
Title: Re: Which method?
Post by: TheSunshineFund on March 05, 2013, 08:05:50 pm
LOL @ Daniel Dock's comment.  So true.
Title: Re: Which method?
Post by: TheSunshineFund on March 05, 2013, 08:06:50 pm
Jason Cram
Sam McNear

I'm sure there's lots we don't even know about.

Jason hasn't kill screened it according to a conversation I had with him a few months back.
Title: Re: Which method?
Post by: hchien on March 05, 2013, 08:09:35 pm
He has a 797K score at TG.  I assumed (incorrectly) it was a killscreen.  Either way I think George's list was for "active" 700K+ players? 
Title: Re: Which method?
Post by: marinomitch13 on March 05, 2013, 08:14:55 pm
Interesting, the first DK arcade I ever played (and I did ALOT) was on one of the D&B 3-in-1 cabs. There must be a setting for those machines, because the one I played on, though it allowed continues, reset the score every time -and on all 3 of the games.
Title: Re: Which method?
Post by: gstrain on March 05, 2013, 09:03:01 pm
I love the triple DK.
I find it interesting that Namco decided Mario Bros. was actually the real third DK.

(Edited to correct my post to refer to the triple game as a Namco release licensed by Nintendo rather than a Nintendo release)
Title: Re: Which method?
Post by: TheSunshineFund on March 06, 2013, 04:57:24 am
I love the triple DK.
I find it interesting that Namco decided Mario Bros. was actually the real third DK.

(Edited to correct my post to refer to the triple game as a Namco release licensed by Nintendo rather than a Nintendo release)

Interesting indeed.   

Hard to argue with it though, it had Mario in it, introduced Luigi to the family and has some of the most compelling gameplay ever, not to mention the mechanics of it laid the groundwork for arguably the most popular video game ever made.
Title: Re: Which method?
Post by: TheSunshineFund on March 06, 2013, 04:59:56 am
Either way I think George's list was for "active" 700K+ players?

My bad.
Title: Re: Which method?
Post by: Jonesy on March 10, 2013, 09:24:45 am
Hi guys,

New high score but still no KS  :-[

837,500 - Level 18-1 was point pressing more this time.


Jonesy
Title: Re: Which method?
Post by: Jonesy on March 10, 2013, 01:23:45 pm
I had to post the ending to my biggest game yet!

I got hooked up on a vine, my mind went totally blank and that was that. It's pretty funny really, my biggest game ending like this?.....listen to the Joystick! I just needed to stay at the bottom of a vine, no....that's way too easy! :)

I really don't want this happening too often! :D

Donkey Kong Junior - Level 18 - The End! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=My5TDptonKU#)
Title: Re: Which method?
Post by: marky_d on March 10, 2013, 01:30:32 pm
Ha ha! Yeah, don't die like that!  ;D Congrats and keep going...I predict your next game that goes deep will be the killscreen.
Title: Re: Which method?
Post by: Jonesy on March 10, 2013, 01:32:30 pm
Oh man! Haha! I hope so Mark i'm giving it all I have at the moment!

Cheers!

Title: Re: Which method?
Post by: homerwannabee on March 10, 2013, 06:39:26 pm
837,500 is a very nice score indeed.  Congrats!  You know,you might hit a million on your first killscreen.
Title: Re: Which method?
Post by: Simpsons99 on March 10, 2013, 07:58:21 pm
yeah you went early before knowing what the snappers where going to do.. Then they trapped you!


Pretty good if you can get a Millon and a first KS .. I know someone else that did that!   Keep at it!
Title: Re: Which method?
Post by: Jonesy on March 11, 2013, 07:35:23 am
yeah you went early before knowing what the snappers where going to do.. Then they trapped you!

Pretty good if you can get a Millon and a first KS .. I know someone else that did that!   Keep at it!

Yep, i was way off, pretty silly mistake really

This 'Dean move' some of you guys mention where you stand between the 1st & 2nd spark is a risky move as there is plenty of room for error but if it can be pulled off successfully there are alot of points to gain here! Certainly something that needs some time to perfect :-\
Title: Re: Which method?
Post by: Simpsons99 on March 11, 2013, 05:19:30 pm
yeah you went early before knowing what the snappers where going to do.. Then they trapped you!

Pretty good if you can get a Millon and a first KS .. I know someone else that did that!   Keep at it!

Yep, i was way off, pretty silly mistake really

This 'Dean move' some of you guys mention where you stand between the 1st & 2nd spark is a risky move as there is plenty of room for error but if it can be pulled off successfully there are alot of points to gain here! Certainly something that needs some time to perfect :-\
yeah i agree with this ..    They say it's easy..  I have been talking about this on other post...   There needs to be a how To Video on the Dean move.

Nothing Dean does is Easy!
Title: Re: Which method?
Post by: marky_d on March 11, 2013, 05:27:52 pm
The Dean Move is easy. Many of the top players really have no problem whatsoever executing it.
Title: Re: Which method?
Post by: Simpsons99 on March 11, 2013, 06:18:17 pm
The Dean Move is easy. Many of the top players really have no problem whatsoever executing it.
  I guess i'm not one of them then.... 
Title: Re: Which method?
Post by: marinomitch13 on March 11, 2013, 06:43:16 pm
He said 'many' not 'all'. Quit jumping to the worst conclusions, Brian.
Title: Re: Which method?
Post by: Jonesy on March 12, 2013, 02:03:37 am
yeah you went early before knowing what the snappers where going to do.. Then they trapped you!

Pretty good if you can get a Millon and a first KS .. I know someone else that did that!   Keep at it!

Yep, i was way off, pretty silly mistake really

This 'Dean move' some of you guys mention where you stand between the 1st & 2nd spark is a risky move as there is plenty of room for error but if it can be pulled off successfully there are alot of points to gain here! Certainly something that needs some time to perfect :-\
yeah i agree with this ..    They say it's easy..  I have been talking about this on other post...   There needs to be a how To Video on the Dean move.

Nothing Dean does is Easy!

Hey Brian,

George has a video up of a 1M game where he demonstrates the Dean move successfully in a big game. I'm not confident enough to incorporate it into big games yet but if these guys can do it, i'm damned sure we can!  8)

Title: Re: Which method?
Post by: Simpsons99 on March 14, 2013, 11:10:07 am
does he tell his move movements on the video?  Or is it just his game play?
yeah you went early before knowing what the snappers where going to do.. Then they trapped you!

Pretty good if you can get a Millon and a first KS .. I know someone else that did that!   Keep at it!

Yep, i was way off, pretty silly mistake really

This 'Dean move' some of you guys mention where you stand between the 1st & 2nd spark is a risky move as there is plenty of room for error but if it can be pulled off successfully there are alot of points to gain here! Certainly something that needs some time to perfect :-\
yeah i agree with this ..    They say it's easy..  I have been talking about this on other post...   There needs to be a how To Video on the Dean move.

Nothing Dean does is Easy!

Hey Brian,

George has a video up of a 1M game where he demonstrates the Dean move successfully in a big game. I'm not confident enough to incorporate it into big games yet but if these guys can do it, i'm damned sure we can!  8)
Title: Re: Which method?
Post by: Jonesy on March 14, 2013, 03:08:51 pm
It's just a game play video, 1.1M with first man

Donkey Kong Junior Arcade 1,168,300 on 1st man! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqHiHZ8YQd4#)
Title: Re: Which method?
Post by: Jonesy on March 22, 2013, 10:44:12 am
Hey guys,

Been practicing this ' Dean move ' a little lately as I haven't had time for any ' big games ' Wow that is hard and takes some time to perfect that's for sure and I'm not there yet but I'm trying damned hard!! George, you must be programmed man! Cyborg or something?  ;)

Nearly.....

Donkey Kong Junior - Point pressing practice (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9xuFeYhIl0#ws)
Title: Re: Which method?
Post by: homerwannabee on March 22, 2013, 11:44:43 am
Hey guys,

Been practicing this ' Dean move ' a little lately as I haven't had time for any ' big games ' Wow that is hard and takes some time to perfect that's for sure and I'm not there yet but I'm trying damned hard!! George, you must be programmed man! Cyborg or something?  ;)

Nearly.....

Donkey Kong Junior - Point pressing practice (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9xuFeYhIl0#ws)

Wow looks like you are really starting to get the hang of it!  The fact that you can get past a screen constantly using that move is a good thing.  The Dean Move is kind of like riding a bicycle.  Once you get the hang of it, it becomes easy peasy!
Title: Re: Which method?
Post by: marky_d on November 21, 2013, 03:09:48 pm
I'm not sure where to put this, but since there are some strategy related posts in this thread, I'll put it here I guess.

I was recently corresponding with someone on youtube, and he was interested in seing some early screen strategies, a decent first hideout pattern and how to get the 4th spark smash on that screen in particular. I made a video for him the other night (which really doesn't explain anything, I was explaining things through PMs). I know many of the top players know to try and get the 4th spark smash, but I'm not sure of the different ways people use to time it right. I'll try and explain how I do it below.

Here is the video. You can ignore the rest and go to about 12 minute into the video. I think the best way to do it (for me) is to watch the release of the blue spark at the top, and since the speed of all of the sparks are the same, you can tell right then if you have a chance to smash 4 based on where the red spark is at the time of the blue spark's release. (that released blue spark is the one you wait for to spawn into 3)

If you go to 12:32 in the video, the blue spark released right at that second is a "good" spark to take the triple smash, because the red spark below is in the right spot, if I am making sense. Now, the problem is that in order to get all 4 that blue spark has to spawn 3 times from the chutes before you pull the trigger on the apple. The good news is that there are probably 4 or 5 opportunities in a screen to pull it off. So no I don't think it's possible to do it every screen, but I figure it should add 15k give or take to a final score in a killscreen game...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7M4yqvUEBo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7M4yqvUEBo)

(http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a618/markydkiehl/hideout_zps772730b7.png)
Title: Re: Which method?
Post by: DKJR on March 14, 2014, 12:26:28 pm
For the dean move, compared to the what I guess I would call safer move (where your at the far left of the 3rd platform getting 100, 300 or 400s. Does anyone know what the difference in points is? I'm still struggling with basic level passing working toward 200K and my game has gotten better but just a curiosity more than anything else?
Title: Re: Which method?
Post by: Donkey Kong Genius on March 14, 2014, 07:01:25 pm
I think it is around 5000 points. Basically, you are getting a 300 point for what would have only been a 100 point. What this means is that you net 200 points each time you perform the jump correctly. So if you do it 5 times it is 1000 points, if you do it 25 times it is 5000 points. Since the jump can only be done when a spark pauses at the time of the 3rd shoot, it varies per board just how many times this will occur. You would have to get an average from 10 or more hideouts, just counting the pauses. But even then, you may miss time a couple jumps and only get the 100. You could just check the difference between 5 boards from my million game on youtube, and 5 boards from the first 9 levels on my 1.097 game last night on twitch.
Title: Re: Which method?
Post by: homerwannabee on March 15, 2014, 02:07:02 pm
I think it is around 5000 points. Basically, you are getting a 300 point for what would have only been a 100 point. What this means is that you net 200 points each time you perform the jump correctly. So if you do it 5 times it is 1000 points, if you do it 25 times it is 5000 points. Since the jump can only be done when a spark pauses at the time of the 3rd shoot, it varies per board just how many times this will occur. You would have to get an average from 10 or more hideouts, just counting the pauses. But even then, you may miss time a couple jumps and only get the 100. You could just check the difference between 5 boards from my million game on youtube, and 5 boards from the first 9 levels on my 1.097 game last night on twitch.

Wow, congrats on the big Donkey Kong Junior score! 8)
Title: Re: Which method?
Post by: Zetherman on March 15, 2014, 07:37:22 pm
wow yes, congrats on that score. going for 1.1m or 1.2m next ?
Title: Re: Which method?
Post by: Donkey Kong Genius on March 15, 2014, 11:02:58 pm
Thanks guys. I am going for 1.2+