Crazy Kong High Score List Discussion

[Monstabonza]

I have been thinking about this for a while and was going to do it before I
took over the DkJr list, But anyway if we are going to have a Crazy Kong High Sore List,
how are we going to do it? What rules are we going to have in place?
I have a few thoughts on this but am going to leave it up to
everybody to come up with the rules that should be in place.
To start the list I will combine Tg and Marp scores together,
I was also thinking about adding Retro Uprising and Aurcade scores aswell,
depending on what everyone else thinks.
OK so there it is, Discuss
Nick

Work in Progress List

Rank	Source	Score	Player	Date	Platform
1	MARP	685200	Phil Tudos	14/11/2011	MAME
2	MARP TG	638700	Ben Jos Walbeehm*	08/12/2001	MAME
3	RetroUprising	631700	Tim Sczerby*	17/05/2013	MAME
4	MARP TG	624000	Jeff Wolfe	11/07/2000	MAME
5	MARP	617100	Estel Goffinet	31/10/2013	MAME
6	MARP TG	608900	Chris Psaros	17/03/2012	MAME
7	Aurcade	608500	Jimmy Linderman	25/03/2010	ARCADE
8	TG	605600	Kane Mawhinney	24/04/2011	MAME
9	TG	597900	John Western	21/05/2009	MAME
10	Aurcade	579700	Justin Knucklez	07/08/2010	ARCADE
11	Aurcade	576800	JJ Cahill	08/07/2010	ARCADE
12	TG	575900	Robbie Lakeman	01/09/2012	ARCADE
13	MARP	567200	Jason Nugent	17/10/2013	MAME
14	Aurcade	566800	Ben Falls	20/03/2010	ARCADE
15	MARP	566600	Brian Allen	11/11/2013	MAME
16	MARP	559900	John McNeill	14/03/2013	MAME
17	MARP	549300	Alessandro.S	21/09/2008	MAME
18	TG	544900	John Marks	08/06/2010	ARCADE
19	Aurcade	511600	F Ochs	11/06/2010	ARCADE
20	Twitch	487700	Shane Mosher	31/8/2013	MAME
21	MARP TG	470000	Alex Weir	28/07/2005	MAME
22	TG	457300	Vignola Renzo	31/07/2005	MAME
23	TG	452500	Timothy Davidson	24/02/2009	MAME
24	MARP	446000	Arjen Gnodde	12/04/2001	MAME
25	MARP	434700	Crash	18/07/1998	MAME
26	MARP	428800	Rich Simonek	10/08/2013	MAME
27	TG	424500	Gregory Erway	31/07/2005	MAME
28	MARP	416800	RJM	24/03/2013	MAME
29	MARP	414200	TJT	10/06/2005	MAME
30	TG	393500	Jonathan Dunne	31/07/2005	MAME
31	MARP TG	382100	Robert T Mruczek	28/01/2007	MAME
32	TG	353900	Tommi Tiihonen	31/07/2005	MAME
33	MARP	353700	Aspie	09/09/2004	MAME
34	MARP	346300	gastrainga	21/03/2008	MAME
35	RetroUprising	341300	Kernzy	24/03/2013	MAME
36	MARP	340500	Michael Schmitt	17/05/2013	MAME
37	TG	336300	Didia Loen	12/02/2010	MAME
38	TG	336000	Adam Wilmot	06/10/2011	MAME
39	TG	333700	David Nelson	31/07/2005	MAME
40	TG	320500	Craig Dextradeur	17/04/2011	MAME
41	MARP	307500	NotMan	14/11/2006	MAME
42	TG	301500	Robert Macauley	31/07/2005	MAME
43	TG	300100	Donald Hayes	31/07/2005	MAME
44	MARP	299200	Sampras@AIVA	01/09/2000	MAME
45	TG	292400	Jason Micari	22/09/2012	MAME
46	TG	290800	Eric Akeson	05/06/2010	ARCADE
47	TG	276300	Wiebo de Wit	08/02/2005	MAME
48	MARP	271700	Tom Lindberg	08/02/2005	MAME
49	TG	260100	Rodney Butler	08/02/2005	MAME
50	TG	258200	Riccardo Moretti	04/09/2006	MAME
51	MARP TG	218300	IUR Dhurin	30/11/1999	MAME
52	TG	213300	Davilas Thanasis	08/02/2005	MAME
53	MARP	192100	Steve Krogman	29/10/1998	MAME
54	TG	187200	Valter Treib	31/07/2005	MAME
55	MARP	162800	Ray Atkinson	28/07/2002	MAME
56	MARP	150100	XXXSimmonsXXX	17/01/2002	MAME
57	TG	140000	Rodrigo Lopes	30/09/2009	MAME
58	TG	133300	Steve Gumtow	04/06/2010	ARCADE
59	MARP	125200	Dith	13/07/1998	MAME
60	TG	123900	William Grablauskas Jr.	08/02/2005	MAME
61	TG	122600	Matthew Green	01/07/2009	MAME
62	TG	119200	Chris Davis	04/01/2008	MAME
63	TG	113200	Ed Martin	23/07/2010	MAME
64	TG	112000	Louie Grubbs	31/07/2005	MAME
65	RetroUprising	108000	Jason Brittain	29/8/2013	MAME
66	TG	104900	Jordi Schouteren	22/07/2008	MAME
67	RetroUprising	96200	dre day22	27/11/2009	MAME
68	TG	91900	Torsten Edelmann	08/02/2005	MAME
69	TG	88100	Sébastien Giraud	31/07/2005	MAME
70	RetroUprising	85500	902silverminer	15/11/2010	MAME
71	TG	85500	Ken Konechny	08/02/2005	MAME
72	TG	85400	Marc Ahles	08/02/2005	MAME
73	TG	83700	Joe McDonald	04/09/2008	MAME
74	RetroUprising	72800	Nick Sheils	11/02/2013	MAME
75	TG	69500	Andrew Mee	31/07/2005	MAME
76	RetroUprising	62400	Ecinc2xxx	07/11/2009	MAME
77	TG	58300	Justin Skidmore	31/05/2011	MAME
78	TG	57900	Darrin Redick	08/02/2005	MAME
79	TG	56800	John DenHartog	08/02/2005	MAME
80	TG	56600	peter dennett	31/07/2005	MAME
81	TG	55000	ryan gavigan	31/07/2005	MAME
82	MARP	54200	Frankie	16/05/2001	MAME
83	TG	52900	John Rhodes	31/07/2005	MAME
84	MARP	49000	Oldie	17/06/1998	MAME
85	TG	45900	Mr. Kelly R. Flewin	04/06/2010	ARCADE
86	TG	44700	Terri Hyder	30/04/2009	MAME
87	TG	44200	Ron Corcoran	08/02/2005	MAME
88	TG	42500	kenneth chappel	19/03/2009	MAME
89	RetroUprising	41100	QUICKJUMP	13/07/2011	MAME
90	RetroUprising	38900	KingRyanSteenbergh	12/7/2011	MAME
91	MARP	33700	Griphin	17/02/2006	MAME
92	MARP	33500	FOXMULDER	22/08/2007	MAME
93	MARP	32100	Robby5150	07/11/2001	MAME
94	TG	28800	Phil Younger	31/07/2005	MAME
95	TG	24900	Koos van Dyk	18/04/2011	MAME
96	RetroUprising	19500	gardok	09/10/2013	MAME

[marinomitch13]

I like your ideas for combining all the lists.

Though I'm not a CK player yet, I intend to be at some point in the future. I'd vote to allow for the floor-glitch skips.

[V3rby]

i think the floor skip glitch could be included, because i think the player takes a higher risk to do this glitch than he would take by playing "normaly".

also the "ladder glitch" should be allowed, even tho i'm not sure if it counts as a glitch anyway.

are there anymore glitches i forgot?

BTW. are we going to have only 1 list for CK in a particular version or also bootlegs and stuff?

[Dk_madness]

I think the list should be for the Crazy Kong Pt2 rom set. I also agree to allow the use of the warp glitch.
Does anyone have an idea of how many extra points the glitch would add overall?

[JNugent]

Warp glitch must be included, in my opinion.  Actually, it could mean a decrease in points, depending on how one is playing. (Running boards or point pressing).  It's a feature of the game, there's no reason not to include it.  The hammer drop on the pie factory should be included.  I agree with Estel, the Crazy Kong HSL should only include the Crazy Kong part 2 romset (ckong).  There can be other lists for other variations eventually, but ckong is the 'definitive' version, IMO.  I love the idea of combining all of the scores from the different scoreboards, although there should be some solid proof of the score.  .inp for MAME submissions seems fair to me, although with different versions of MAME, I'm not sure this would always be an option.  I'll let someone else weigh in.  Great thread!

[Milehighdt]

The warp glitch should be included just for the fact of using it with point pressing will achieve the highest score. If we ever get into tracking speed runs the warp will be the way to go. I think an (*) could be used to indicate scores done without the use of the warp or hammer drop.

[Monstabonza]

I was planing on doing tho for the crazy kong part 2 set.
I should have said that first. I am more than willing to do other clones but would like to get his list sorted first before I start on anything else.
Yeah I was thinking .inp to be supplied with mame submission, probably leave it to any wolf mame version just to keep the amount of mame versions in check. It will be advisable to stream all games although I understand this is not always possible.
And it's looking like we will allow all glitches to maximise the scoring potential of the game.
I can doa speed running list aswell if that what people want.
Nick

[Monstabonza]

Ok so Here is the list i have so far,
Feel free to pick it to pieces

Rank	Source	Score	Player	Date	Platform
1	MARP	685200	Phil Tudos	14/11/2011	MAME
2	MARP TG	638700	Ben Jos Walbeehm	08/12/2001	MAME
3	RetroUprising	631700	Tim Sczerby	17/05/2013	MAME
4	MARP TG	624000	Jeff Wolfe	11/07/2000	MAME
5	MARP	617100	Estel Goffinet	31/10/2013	MAME
6	MARP TG	608900	Chris Psaros	17/03/2012	MAME
7	Aurcade	608500	Jimmy Linderman	25/03/2010	ARCADE
8	TG	605600	Kane Mawhinney	24/04/2011	MAME
9	TG	597900	John Western	21/05/2009	MAME
10	Aurcade	579700	Justin Knucklez	07/08/2010	ARCADE
11	Aurcade	576800	JJ Cahill	08/07/2010	ARCADE
12	TG	575900	Robbie Lakeman	01/09/2012	ARCADE
13	MARP	567200	Jason Nugent	17/10/2013	MAME
14	Aurcade	566800	Ben Falls	20/03/2010	ARCADE
15	MARP	566600	Brian Allen	11/11/2013	MAME
16	MARP	559900	John McNeill	14/03/2013	MAME
17	MARP	549300	Alessandro.S	21/09/2008	MAME
18	TG	544900	John Marks	08/06/2010	ARCADE
19	RetroUprising	524200	CKF	01/04/2013	MAME
20	Aurcade	511600	F Ochs	11/06/2010	ARCADE
21	MARP TG	470000	Alex Weir	28/07/2005	MAME
22	TG	457300	Vignola Renzo	31/07/2005	MAME
23	TG	452500	Timothy Davidson	24/02/2009	MAME
24	MARP	446000	Arjen Gnodde	12/04/2001	MAME
25	MARP	434700	Crash	18/07/1998	MAME
26	MARP	428800	Rich Simonek	10/08/2013	MAME
27	TG	424500	Gregory Erway	31/07/2005	MAME
28	MARP	416800	RJM	24/03/2013	MAME
29	MARP	414200	TJT	10/06/2005	MAME
30	TG	393500	Jonathan Dunne	31/07/2005	MAME
31	MARP TG	382100	Robert T Mruczek	28/01/2007	MAME
32	TG	353900	Tommi Tiihonen	31/07/2005	MAME
33	MARP	353700	Aspie	09/09/2004	MAME
34	MARP	346300	gastrainga	21/03/2008	MAME
35	RetroUprising	341300	Kernzy	24/03/2013	MAME
36	MARP	340500	Michael Schmitt	17/05/2013	MAME
37	TG	336300	Didia Loen	12/02/2010	MAME
38	TG	336000	Adam Wilmot	06/10/2011	MAME
39	TG	333700	David Nelson	31/07/2005	MAME
40	TG	320500	Craig Dextradeur	17/04/2011	MAME
41	MARP	307500	NotMan	14/11/2006	MAME
42	TG	301500	Robert Macauley	31/07/2005	MAME
43	TG	300100	Donald Hayes	31/07/2005	MAME
44	MARP	299200	Sampras@AIVA	01/09/2000	MAME
45	TG	292400	Jason Micari	22/09/2012	MAME
46	TG	290800	Eric Akeson	05/06/2010	ARCADE
47	TG	276300	Wiebo de Wit	08/02/2005	MAME
48	MARP	271700	Tom Lindberg	08/02/2005	MAME
49	TG	260100	Rodney Butler	08/02/2005	MAME
50	TG	258200	Riccardo Moretti	04/09/2006	MAME
51	MARP TG	218300	IUR Dhurin	30/11/1999	MAME
52	TG	213300	Davilas Thanasis	08/02/2005	MAME
53	MARP	192100	Steve Krogman	29/10/1998	MAME
54	MARP	187200	TRB_MetroidTeam	18/08/2005	MAME
55	TG	187200	Valter Treib	31/07/2005	MAME
56	MARP	162800	Ray Atkinson	28/07/2002	MAME
57	MARP	150100	XXXSimmonsXXX	17/01/2002	MAME
58	TG	140000	Rodrigo Lopes	30/09/2009	MAME
59	TG	133300	Steve Gumtow	04/06/2010	ARCADE
60	MARP	125200	Dith	13/07/1998	MAME
61	TG	123900	William Grablauskas Jr.	08/02/2005	MAME
62	TG	122600	Matthew Green	01/07/2009	MAME
63	TG	119200	Chris Davis	04/01/2008	MAME
64	RetroUprising	115800	elrod21	15/11/2010	MAME
65	TG	113200	Ed Martin	23/07/2010	MAME
66	MARP	112500	paul kearns	17/04/2013	MAME
67	TG	112000	Louie Grubbs	31/07/2005	MAME
68	RetroUprising	108000	Jason Brittain	29/8/2013	MAME
69	TG	104900	Jordi Schouteren	22/07/2008	MAME
70	RetroUprising	96200	dre day22	27/11/2009	MAME
71	TG	91900	Torsten Edelmann	08/02/2005	MAME
72	TG	88100	Sébastien Giraud	31/07/2005	MAME
73	RetroUprising	85500	902silverminer	15/11/2010	MAME
74	TG	85500	Ken Konechny	08/02/2005	MAME
75	TG	85400	Marc Ahles	08/02/2005	MAME
76	TG	83700	Joe McDonald	04/09/2008	MAME
77	RetroUprising	72800	Nick Sheils	11/02/2013	MAME
78	TG	69500	Andrew Mee	31/07/2005	MAME
79	RetroUprising	62400	Ecinc2xxx	07/11/2009	MAME
80	TG	58300	Justin Skidmore	31/05/2011	MAME
81	TG	57900	Darrin Redick	08/02/2005	MAME
82	TG	56800	John DenHartog	08/02/2005	MAME
83	TG	56600	peter dennett	31/07/2005	MAME
84	TG	55000	ryan gavigan	31/07/2005	MAME
85	MARP	54200	Frankie	16/05/2001	MAME
86	TG	52900	John Rhodes	31/07/2005	MAME
87	MARP	49000	Oldie	17/06/1998	MAME
88	TG	45900	Mr. Kelly R. Flewin	04/06/2010	ARCADE
89	TG	44700	Terri Hyder	30/04/2009	MAME
90	TG	44200	Ron Corcoran	08/02/2005	MAME
91	TG	42500	kenneth chappel	19/03/2009	MAME
92	RetroUprising	41100	QUICKJUMP	13/07/2011	MAME
93	RetroUprising	38900	KingRyanSteenbergh	12/7/2011	MAME
94	MARP	33700	Griphin	17/02/2006	MAME
95	MARP	33500	FOXMULDER	22/08/2007	MAME
96	MARP	32100	Robby5150	07/11/2001	MAME
97	TG	28800	Phil Younger	31/07/2005	MAME
98	TG	24900	Koos van Dyk	18/04/2011	MAME
99	RetroUprising	19500	gardok	09/10/2013	MAME

[xelnia]

Awesome list so far. I hope to get on it eventually. A few observations:


1) Brian Allen just recently killscreened the game with a score of 566,600. November 11, 2013. That score is on MARP. So, that would move his #55 score up to #15, just behind Ben Falls.
2) I believe Ben Falls' game was a killscreen.
3) Should we suggest the real names of MARP players if they have chosen to use a nickname on that site? I'm not sure what the etiquette is in that case.
4) I will suggest a correction to the 1st place name: Phil Tudose 


Great work. Keep it up!

[Monstabonza]

Ok 1,2 and 4 fixed.
As for 3 i'm not sure what the etiquette is for that.

And ill take a guess and say Everyone above Ben Falls Has got  killscreen but I couldn't say if there game was.

[Milehighdt]

My score date should be 7/11/00, those 2005 dates are when tg populated their DB

[Monstabonza]

Date Fixed

Was This A Kill Screen Game???

[ChrisP]

My score date should be March 17th, 2012. The date you have there is when I (finally) uploaded the game to MARP. I don't know why I waited so long, but you can check the INP if you wanna verify that!

My game was a 22-1 kill screen (as per TG rules at the time).

Very, very interesting list! I didn't know about a lot of these scores.

[ChrisP]

And I see that you're going by dd/mm/yyyy. I support that.

I wish America would switch (like they should switch to the metric system), but you can't get Americans to do anything that makes sense.

(Note that Jeff phrased his as mm/dd/yyyy - should be July 11, 2000, ie, 11/07/2000 in your format)

[Monstabonza]

Something is wrong with a formula in my sheet at the moment with the dates, some players are showing the date for the player directly above them alphabetically,
As for the date format it is all I have ever known.