Seperating the posers from the actual champs

[hchien]

First, I guess a consensus needs to be formed on the defining criteria of a Champ and a Poser to make it somewhat accurate, as the definitions up to this point have been quite subjective.

We have 2 pretty good definitions:

1- Tim's:

...to be able to average 55k per level starting at L=5 to qualify.this will all but eliminate the hacks...

My interpretation: you need to have a DK score of 1.05M to be a champ.

2- George's:

How to seperate the champs from the posers: Champs excel at a wide assortment of arcade games. Posers only play DK related games.

My interpretation: you must be better than George at 3 non-DK related arcade games to be a champ.


Perhaps we should have 2 lists (1 for each definition).  I'm a champ by Tim's definition.  I think I'm a poser by George's.

[stella_blue]

The poser list should be open to anyone who wants to be on it.  The definitions can be applied to those who don't.

I'm 2nd in line outside the poser ticket window (not sure how Chris got here before me).

[giv]

Mario Bros doesn't count as a DK related game. You're pretty good at that, right, Hank? So Mario Bros, Centipede and Millipede. So you're a champ in my book!

[homerwannabee]

My interpretation: you must be better than George at 3 non-DK related arcade games to be a champ.


Perhaps we should have 2 lists (1 for each definition).  I'm a champ by Tim's definition.  I think I'm a poser by George's.

I might have George Leutz beat in 3 non DK games.  Hopefully he can respond to see if I do.

Here are my decent non DK scores.   All MAME of course

1942  414,430
Congo Bongo 84,550
Exciting Hour 274,400
Frogger 30,320
Galaxian 50,390
Gorf 23,320
Lady Bug 43,830
Moon Patrol 165,410
Robotron 97,400
Zaxxon 149,050

So what of it George?  Do I have 3 scores that are better than your scores on these games?

[hchien]

Mario Bros doesn't count as a DK related game. You're pretty good at that, right, Hank? So Mario Bros, Centipede and Millipede. So you're a champ in my book!

Had to look at BOTA scores...

You're better than me at Mario Bros.:

http://www.aurcade.com/events/game.aspx?id=607

But I edged you out on Ms. Pac Turbo:

http://www.aurcade.com/events/game.aspx?id=599

Phew... I didn't want to wait on the poser line.

[giv]

Come on, George, you know MAME doesn't count!

But if it did, here's the comparison:

1942: don't know, so we'll say you win.
Congo Bongo: don't know, you win.
Exciting hour: don't even know what that is.
Froggy: I think I've got you beat by 5-10k. I think my score from the first BotA was between 35-40k
Galaxian: somewhere around 25k. So you got me there.
Gorf: no idea again.
Lady Bug: 352k hard difficulty, 420somethingk medium difficulty.
Moon Patrol: I was somewhere around 120-30k when they took the machine out of barcade. So you got me by a little.
Robotron: when I was playing regularly I was somewhere around 700k. I get a few hundred thousand on a casual game though. 5man around 180-200k on my best game.
Zaxxon: around 70k I think? I used to go to barcade in Jersey City once or twice a month and that's as far as I got. Haven't been there in months though.

I think comparing mame to real scores is like apples to oranges though. I'd be curious to see if your arcade scores equal your mame scores. I would bet the practice you do on mame would help your arcade scores. So if mame counted, you'd be a champ in my book, George!

[homerwannabee]

Come on, George, you know MAME doesn't count!

But if it did, here's the comparison:

1942: don't know, so we'll say you win.
Congo Bongo: don't know, you win.
Exciting hour: don't even know what that is.
Froggy: I think I've got you beat by 5-10k. I think my score from the first BotA was between 35-40k
Galaxian: somewhere around 25k. So you got me there.
Gorf: no idea again.
Lady Bug: 352k hard difficulty, 420somethingk medium difficulty.
Moon Patrol: I was somewhere around 120-30k when they took the machine out of barcade. So you got me by a little.
Robotron: when I was playing regularly I was somewhere around 700k. I get a few hundred thousand on a casual game though. 5man around 180-200k on my best game.
Zaxxon: around 70k I think? I used to go to barcade in Jersey City once or twice a month and that's as far as I got. Haven't been there in months though.

I think comparing mame to real scores is like apples to oranges though. I'd be curious to see if your arcade scores equal your mame scores. I would bet the practice you do on mame would help your arcade scores. So if mame counted, you'd be a champ in my book, George!

Sounds cool to me!  I'm a champ if MAME counted!  Yeah!

[giv]

Yeah, you've got me on Ms Pac turbo, Hank... For now!

I wanted to add though, that maybe I shouldn't have said one needs to "excel" at non-DK related games to be a champ. Effort counts. Just being on a BotA team proves you have a lot of arcade gaming heart, and are a champ in my book!

[TheSunshineFund]

Love BOTA.  Love it.  Even if it made me play Mappy once.

[JNugent]

Yeah, you've got me on Ms Pac turbo, Hank... For now!

I wanted to add though, that maybe I shouldn't have said one needs to "excel" at non-DK related games to be a champ. Effort counts. Just being on a BotA team proves you have a lot of arcade gaming heart, and are a champ in my book!

Yeah, but the average player will never be on a BotA team.  Mostly because the 'official' arcades are nowhere near any of us.  .

[danman123456]

BOTA was fun and I do look the forward to the next one.

[hchien]

Yeah, but the average player will never be on a BotA team.  Mostly because the 'official' arcades are nowhere near any of us.  .

You a make your own team!  You just need 8 players and an arcade willing to host it.  It can even be a home arcade.