Donkey Kong Million Point Timeline

[homerwannabee]

Trivia question (I'm actually not sure of the answer):

Who had the first live 1M point game?

Didn't Steve Wiebe get 1M live on G3 about 4 years ago?  I think Billy Mitchell at some real estate brokers convention did it the first time live in front of people though.

[hchien]

Good question! Steve Wiebe didn't even get 1m live in KoK (got lik 985k?). Hasn't Scott Kessler gotten 1m in like 2009 or something like that at Funspot?

Don't tell me Hank you're the one that got 1m+ live the first at Funspot with your 1.09m?

Scott's 1M was at home (I'm pretty sure).  At FS he was running boards.

I'm not claiming to be first (although it may be possible), but I have a live 1M before the 1.09M.  I'll post a date/video when I get home.  Vince, would it really kill you that much if I was the first live 1M?  <evil laugh>

@George I'm not sure if Steve broke 1M on G4.  Can anyone confirm/deny?  That would certainly be before mine.

Easy one: first live 1.1M?

[stella_blue]

Easy one: first live 1.1M?

Jeff Willms at the Kong Off II.

[LMDAVE]

Tim Scezrby's first 1M score was 1,024,100, the 1.034M game game later. Dwayne has both archived on his stream. Guess youhave the date right, because Dwayne's broadcast was jsut a reshowing of the tape in Aug/2009.

[hchien]

Tim broke 1M at least four times (four times that he told me about).  I believe his highest is 1,034,700 (ending on 21-5).  I'm not sure when/what score was his first.

[LMDAVE]

Also, you have Billy's million a whole year earlier. It was 2005. Steve's million date is right, but Billy's video was shown/verified at Funspot in 2005 when wiebe was there.

[syscrusher]

Hank, I remember the 1M game you put up at Richie's.  I don't remember the score, but I think it was somewhere between 1.005M - 1.01M.  I remember taking off the control panel and showing the restrictor plate and such.  That was an important game in that it paved the way for the new recording rules which allowed us to record 1M+ games at home.  That might be what I consider as the first live 1M score.

[ChrisP]

For Billy's KoK tape, I'm going by the date Pigger has here.

This is all performance dates, not verification dates.

The 1,047 tape was not seen or verified until Funspot in 2005, but it was recorded much earlier. Billy says in the movie that he'd been holding onto it for a long time. Also, the final score was engineered around beating Steve Wiebe's first submission (947K) by exactly 100,000 points. It seems like Billy wouldn't have made a big deal of targeting that score if Steve had already made his next few submissions by the time Billy played the game. 6/7/04 makes sense because Steve's 985, 995, and 1,006 all happened during summer '04 and would have been verified after 6/7/04.

I don't know where Pigger got his date, but I'll stick with it because we don't know how long that tape was lying around, but it was evidently months at least.

Thanks for the note about Tim Sczerby and the 1,024 being his first million, I didn't know Dwayne had that game archived too.

[ChrisP]

Didn't Steve Wiebe get 1M live on G3 about 4 years ago?  I think Billy Mitchell at some real estate brokers convention did it the first time live in front of people though.

Before KO2, Steve never got a live million. He got close on G4, but never rolled it over.

That's what was so cool about the back-to-back on KO2 Day 2. Not only did he do it, he did it twice!

As for the mortgage broker's convention in 2007 where Billy took back the record from Steve, good call George, and I thought that was the first live million too, but I have since discovered that there are numerous issues with this performance. It was shown on a screen at the convention (presumably being played by Billy in another room), but I have never seen any evidence that Billy was actually there or that the game was happening live, I don't know who the ref was, etc.

I have a hard time calling it "live" if nobody was actually watching Billy in the flesh.

[hchien]

OK, my first live 1M at Richie Knucklez on 9/26/09.  This was also my first arcade submission to TG.  I was hesitant to submit it to TG, but I was encouraged by many people in the community to submit it.  It was verified several months later (I believe in November) after the recording rules were changed.  I've been meaning to share this for a while as there were many lively moments in this video.  I also realized I had lots of conversations with various people during the game.  Definitely one of the more entertaining recordings I have.  I held back from sharing mainly because of all the potential controversy it could have stirred up back then.  Right now I think the score and all the possible controversies are moot, so here goes.

Forgive the poor editing (I threw this together really quickly last night) and definitely ignore the n00bish gameplay.  In fact, unlearn everything you learned in this video by watching Dean play for an hour.  I uploaded this video more to share the interesting conversations/thought processes that were occurring during that time.  This was definitely a special moment in my DK career.

For the first few minutes, I introduce various witnesses to that game (there were about 15-20 total).  The bulk of the video is the last 2 levels of the game and the conversation afterwards.  The last few minutes was our ad hoc verification.

[noembed]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvrXDjHnQGY[/noembed]

Edit: before someone asks, I did NOT know how to group barrels at the time... and I told you to ignore the gameplay.

[Xermon54]

This was definitely a special moment in my DK career.

Getting a 1m live a special moment for your DK career... lol. It's like if you would say:"Finishing my primary school was definitely a special moment for my future plastic surgeon career".

Kding, my first 1m was also very special to me.

[Svavar]

Nice! thanks for sharing that

Awesome to see your gameplay this early. Do you think you'll ever make your WR recording public?

[hchien]

Nice! thanks for sharing that

Awesome to see your gameplay this early. Do you think you'll ever make your WR recording public?

If I ever get a score in the (old) Dean range (say 1.16M+) I'll upload it to youtube.  Otherwise it's just a waste of bandwidth.  I don't really have any "tricks" that no one knows about.  I'm also planning on streaming some attempts in a month or two, so stay tuned.

[up2ng]

Before KO2, Steve never got a live million. He got close on G4, but never rolled it over.

That's what was so cool about the back-to-back on KO2 Day 2. Not only did he do it, he did it twice!

I'm pretty confident that this is actually incorrect.  Steve's million point games at the KO2 were not the first ones that he ever did live.  It would take some digging around to find where he had done it previously, but I remember a few years back when I was surfing around trying to look into this sort of thing that there were a few smaller and lesser known places where Steve played in an arcade setting.  At least one of these (and it may have happened more than once) he did just barely break a million.  I don't remember if I was poking around on YouTube or TG or where I remember seeing this but that's what I remember anyway.

But yeah, Billy's live game in 2007 of 1,050,200 was the first known live million point game (this is the one where he was on pace for around 1,110,000 but killed it off early).  I vaguely remember that this game was approved during the "Live Only" rule, although I could be wrong about that -- perhaps that rule went into effect after Billy's game was verified I don't remember.

I'm glad to see some efforts being made to try to preserve some of these histories before they are forgotten.

[hchien]

Before KO2, Steve never got a live million. He got close on G4, but never rolled it over.

That's what was so cool about the back-to-back on KO2 Day 2. Not only did he do it, he did it twice!

I'm pretty confident that this is actually incorrect.  Steve's million point games at the KO2 were not the first ones that he ever did live.

Yeah I agree with this 100%.

Around the time Steve went to G4, he was being flown all over to try to break Billy's record (1.05M) at the time.  Although I don't think he broke 1M at G4, I'm fairly certainly he broke 1M at one or more of those events.  I'm not sure if those 1M's were before/after mine.  Again, I'm NOT claiming I was first.