Donkey Kong Wild Card Tournament Rematch #3

[philt80]

Phil, I have been thinking about that issue as well. I have yet to work with an inp from a newer version but I do have it ready, if all you get is an inp then that is all we can work with. I have not figured out how to record an inp with the newest version of MAME so I have not had the chance to try it out.

No prob, Corey...I'll just use 106 for now to make it easier for verification. Just thought I'd ask in the event someone else knew how to generate both the .wlf and .inp...
Thanks for the quick response

[stella_blue]

I really like the inp stuff because it makes the MAME games completely ironclad.

An examination of the INP and WLF files is the simplest and most straightforward method of validating a MAME score.  However, for a time-sensitive event (like the WCR #3), where scores must be achieved during a 24 hour period, it's far from ironclad.  Any player could easily adjust the date and time on their PC to 06/22/13, play until they put up a score they're happy with, and then replay the INP on Saturday at the appropriate time.  The recording will pass all wlfview validation checks, with no evidence of wrongdoing.  With only a few mouse clicks, unscrupulous players could give themselves several days to record a high score, instead of just one.

Yes, it's incredibly lame.  No, I don't believe anyone here would disrespect the community by employing such a low tactic.  But we should certainly be wary of the possibilities.

[stella_blue]

Ross, yeah, I agree, I hope no one will do that. If they do, I will catch them, it won't get passed me. I actually don't need to watch both a stream and an inp. I can see the stream for sure, and I just need to verify that the inp was created at the time of streaming to see that it is new, and that it works, and passes a simple test with the wlfviewer. It is not required for the WCR but it is certainly required for the DK Forum High Score List. And the only person that does that work right now is me, so not too much for everybody else, just an ironclad process for MAME submissions.

I've never understood that requirement (highlighted above).  As I mentioned in my previous post, the date and time is obviously critical for a WCR #3 submission.  But, as it applies to the DK Forum's High Score List, why does the timing matter, other than providing a value for the "Date" column?  What difference does it make if a game was streamed live, or if it was recorded yesterday, last week, or even 5 years ago?  Perhaps I'm missing something, but I fail to see the reasoning behind the criteria.  Can somebody explain?

[JohnTheLawnMan]

Wonder why PSP hasn't registered for the tournament......?

[Dustin(tiptop)Myers]

I live in Akron Ohio and we are EDT Time Zone.
So I would start @ Midnight? I am 3 hours ahead I think? right??

[Dustin(tiptop)Myers]

And I would end @ midnight Monday? Did I figure this right?

[danman123456]

Midnight Sunday Dustin. Its Midnight Eastern time for 24 hours. Basically all day/night  Saturday.

[corey.chambers]

Ross, yeah, I agree, I hope no one will do that. If they do, I will catch them, it won't get passed me. I actually don't need to watch both a stream and an inp. I can see the stream for sure, and I just need to verify that the inp was created at the time of streaming to see that it is new, and that it works, and passes a simple test with the wlfviewer. It is not required for the WCR but it is certainly required for the DK Forum High Score List. And the only person that does that work right now is me, so not too much for everybody else, just an ironclad process for MAME submissions.

I've never understood that requirement (highlighted above).  As I mentioned in my previous post, the date and time is obviously critical for a WCR #3 submission.  But, as it applies to the DK Forum's High Score List, why does the timing matter, other than providing a value for the "Date" column?  What difference does it make if a game was streamed live, or if it was recorded yesterday, last week, or even 5 years ago?  Perhaps I'm missing something, but I fail to see the reasoning behind the criteria.  Can somebody explain?

Scott, the context for the requirement had to do with a discussion that took place on the High Score List thread awhile back about the possibility of people making a stream that looks like they are playing a game live on MAME. Now, I thought, well, if I had the inp and wlf files for this supposed game they just played, it is more likely that it is genuine. Perhaps I am wrong, but wouldn't it be far easier for someone to create the appearance of a live MAME game than it would be to offer me an inp and wlf files that corresponds with what I saw in the stream? How knows whether it was played on MAME at one time or if it is something created in some video software. At least as far as I understood the argument. Seeing the date on the inp and wlf file just helps also to verify that it was done live, as it was portrayed to be. However, I was also unaware of the possibilities of someone changing the time on their computer. Perhaps you should just assume I am ignorant from now on, you would most likely be right.

[ChrisP]

Could it be... a surprise competitor?? 

[JohnTheLawnMan]

I would be shocked if PSP competed...

But what better way to stifle the naysayers, like me.

It would be absolutely epic if he played in the tournament  and dropped an 800K+ bomb.  But I'm doubtful he will register.

[LMDAVE]

Not sure if other top 12 players paid attention that they have to register or are they opting out after the tournament opened up.

[hchien]

I haven't registered yet because it is unlikely I can compete.  My laptop is out for repair and I have to work Saturday.

[LMDAVE]

About the tournament time 9:00 PM PST 6/21 - 8:59PM PST 6/22. Does your last game have to be completed before 8:59PM or is that a last start within that range?

Just curious, if I start a game a 7:30 PST and it ends at 9:30 PST, for example.

[tessler1134]

As long as you start your game on or before 8:59PM PST on 6/22, you are cool - so in your example, that would be a valid game.

[tessler1134]

***ATTENTION***

We moved the start time to 12 AM PST tonight (June 22) due to the fact that twitch.tv is down