Robbie's 1.272

[muscleandfitness]

DADFKK 

[BillyGaines]

I've been out of the loop for most of the DK drama.  Looking at this situation from a distance my BS detector is sounding off on the 'it's personal' setting.  With that being said, I am very grateful for the hours and hours Jeremy has freely given of himself to verify scores. 

This is just my opinion.  If differing opinions are no longer welcome at the DKF I guess you can ban me as well. 

[Barra]

I've been out of the loop for most of the DK drama.  Looking at this situation from a distance my BS detector is sounding off on the 'it's personal' setting.  With that being said, I am very grateful for the hours and hours Jeremy has freely given of himself to verify scores. 

This is just my opinion.  If differing opinions are no longer welcome at the DKF I guess you can ban me as well.

You need to look a bit closer then

Jeremy is a man of integrity, moreso than most. Nothing about this is personal, he would do the same thing if it was one of his good friends.

[ersatz_cats]

I'm still waiting for an explanation from the "This is personal" crowd as to why Jeremy and DKF accepted all of Robbie's previous world record scores, before Robbie started manipulating hardware for an attempted advantage.

[QAOP Spaceman]

How do so many people not have a problem with this?

Robbie:
"I'm going to cheat by manipulating the hardware" ..... "New world record!"

This ^

I'm still waiting for an explanation from the "This is personal" crowd as to why Jeremy and DKF accepted all of Robbie's previous world record scores, before Robbie started manipulating hardware for an attempted advantage.

This ^ x 100

Jeremy is a man of integrity, moreso than most.

This ^ x 1000

Never mind the hours spent over the years making graphs, Jry's balls in putting forth the case against Ol' Girder Fingers shows how much he values the integrity of the scoreboard here.

All the ensuing harrasment, slander and ongoing legal grief from the Disgraced Former Video Game Champion and his band of hairy-knuckled, slow-learning followers was entirely predictable, yet xelnia did the right thing.

 I think he's doing the right hing now.



I made a chart:

[homerwannabee]

Just putting it out there. A lot if us that disagree with Jeremy actually have tremendous respect for him and what he's done for the hobby.

[krehztim]

What Spacey said.

Sorry, but anyone who aligns themselves and who fully and outwardly supports one of the biggest con artists in sport, especially gaming, does not deserve the benefit of the doubt, especially when they go so far as to make a public and obnoxious post about being perfectly fine with cheating. Is he capable of 1.272? Of course FFS. Should toxicity be a factor with score submissions? Of course not. Is he one of the greatest DK players of all-time? Hell yes, and he always will be. Was this whole game and submission anywhere in the realm of the spirit of the community? HELL NO. If you don't want to be questioned, don't align yourself with sycophants who worship a narcissistic bullshit artist.

[Ohrami]

It is absurd that this score is not being accepted on the leaderboard if for the reason xelnia stated in his post, and it?s so unacceptable that I think no reasonable person can logically consider this leaderboard to be a whole or complete one anymore.

Yes, the video has no audio. Most of his old records also have no audio. They have sections of the game screen that aren?t even fucking visible, for Christ?s sake - huge portions, even. Yet, these scores were accepted just as every other score was.

Many websites and leaderboards have proof policies that require some acceptable level of video footage standards. DKF adopting such a policy would make perfect sense. A video lacking audio or not perfectly capturing the video feed in 2021 is unacceptable. However, as it stands, no such rules even currently exist for the site. Lakeman?s score submission was rejected purely based on spite, as a punishment for ?bad behavior?. This is incredibly unprofessional and absolutely not the way to go.

DKF has been one of the best websites in the world which is dedicated to classic video gaming for a long time. However, this sole decision has tainted its reputation in my eyes, and I will always question the veracity of the scoreboard as presented here on DKF. The only reason why I now know that Robbie Lakeman is the indisputable champion of Donkey Kong is because of a random Facebook post. Why should Facebook posts be more indicative of who is the DK champ than a forum completely dedicated to Donkey Kong players and their world-class achievements in the game?

I have great respect for this forum and its history, but the current attitude of its leaderboard moderators just isn?t up to the standards I would expect from a serious record-keeping body anymore.

[Ohrami]

Since I can't edit my post, I will just add it in another post:

Because DKF's Donkey Kong leaderboard is no longer a leaderboard intended to display a ranked list of the highest-scoring games of Donkey Kong that have been played, and is now simply a list ranking the highest-scoring games of Donkey Kong that have been played by people who xelnia doesn't dislike for whatever reason he has for disliking them, will there be created another website, forum, or thread within this forum that in fact accurately keeps records of the highest-scoring Donkey Kong games that have been played? If anyone intends to do so, simply send me a DM or reply to this post in this thread with the URL to it. While I am not an incredibly active user of the site, nor am I even an active DK player in general, I have been checking this leaderboard at least monthly since I joined the site (which I did I believe the same week this website was even put online), so since this website is now effectively useless for the primary reason that I used it for and has become as worthless as (or perhaps worse than) TG when it comes to record-keeping, it is hopeful that some other website, forum, or even Google spreadsheet will be actively updated with actually accurate rankings of the best Donkey Kong players in the world.

I have seen another classic gaming leaderboard take the horrible approach of unranking players who say or do things they personally dislike, and disregarding the actual legitimacy of the records themselves, and it's always sad when an otherwise respectable and trustworthy community goes down that path. I truly do hope that DKF can be promptly replaced, just as TG was replaced by DKF so many years ago when it just wasn't up to the standards people expected of a record-keeping site.

[Kibbey93]

 

[homerwannabee]

Other website? I think TG will allow it.


And now for a more detailed philosophy of mine.

I've always said that principles and common sense are enemies of each other.

But I like to add a couple of things.

A person devoted entirely to common sense with no principle has no character. A person devoted entirely to principle and no common sense is a fool.

[datagod]

Other website? I think TG will allow it.

Twin Galaxies has accepted Robbie's submission after a discussion about the lack of sound.  As with all scores, it can be disputed after the fact if somebody with enough credibility (4000 points) opens a dispute.  They will have to make the case though, explaining why the score is invalid.

I don't think that is going to happen though because the people with that much credibility dont' have an issue with the performance itself -- other than the sound which was later addressed.

[homerwannabee]

You'll never have uniformity between sites in regards to score acceptance.  I think that's perfectly fine.  Else, why have a different scoreboard in the first place?

[QAOP Spaceman]

Because DKF's Donkey Kong leaderboard is ... now simply a list ranking the highest-scoring games of Donkey Kong that have been played by people who xelnia doesn't dislike for whatever reason he has for disliking them it. [sic]

Lol.

Do ersatz_cats and the rest of us a favour by attempting a response to this:

I'm still waiting for an explanation from the "This is personal" crowd as to why Jeremy and DKF accepted all of Robbie's previous world record scores, before Robbie started manipulating hardware for an attempted advantage.

While I am not an incredibly active user of the site, nor am I even an active DK player in general, I have been checking this leaderboard at least monthly since I joined the site

Do your own leaderboard then, for your own once-a-monthly benefit.

I truly do hope that DKF can be promptly replaced

'Promptly' replace it yourself big boy, and check in once a month to see how that goes for you 

[Snowflake]

i was never gonna log in again but against my better judgement the alcohol got to me

you know what lots of people in casinos have good luck charms. if you walk into a casino and say "i think this good luck charm will give me advantage" they let you in and pay you off if you win. it doesnt matter if you thought you got an unfair advantage. in sports crazy christians pray and thank jesus for victory all the time and noone says 'he thought he was cheating he thought jesus helped him win, strip him of his award"

its your club your rules. my problem isnt even saying robbie cheated its saying he thinks he cheated or that he admitted to cheating . no no no no. he admitted to changing voltage. something you guys told him doesnt matter, something you guys told him wasnt cheating.

its utter hypocrisy to tell him its not cheating but then say it is cheating when he does it

strip his score all you want thats your right. but lying about him and saying he "thought" he was cheating that he "tried" to cheat. you're in your rights to remove him from your scoreboard but you're not in your right to lie

jeremy is a liar by saying he tried to cheat.  you're site is run by liars. i really dont care if i get banned, liars mean nothing to me. Billy is a cheater and jeremy is a jealous hater. both are true and not mutually exclusive. up till now i saw jeremy as honroable and billy as a cheat. but after this i realize outing billy was just a case where jealous hate and honorable exposure of a cheater were one in the same. the treatment of robbie and jeremeies own admiesson of not adding a score he admits he thinks he is real proves hes a jealous hater.

again you have the right to your own feelings you have the right to your own scoreaboard but you dont have the right to jeremys own alternative facts.  by saying robbie meant to cheat you cross the line to lying and slander.

congratulations, billy that cheater tried to undermine you and discredit you for years and failed miserably. but now jeremy undermines himself and discredits you all with his lies about robbie.

enjoy the hole you dug.

oh yeah and this whole "jeremy worked hard for us". well guess what walter worked hard for you. bily worked hard for you. billy and walter built this community. all billly syncophants point that out. so defending jeremy cause of his prior work is no different than defending billly for his prior work

jeremy and billy are one and the same. people who worked hard for a community and used that to rise up and promote themselves. and hardwork by billy, walter, corrupt tg refs, or jeremy in no way undoes their biased hate

and anyone that defends them due to friendshiop is also lettting their biases get the best of them

i agree with jeremy on ONE THING and one thing only. the right thing the moral thing is not always the popular thing. I really dont fucking care (well icare a little) if i lose friends over morality. this is wrong, jeremy arrogantly showed his bias. you can love a biased person, but if you're a good person you'll tell your biased friend he did wrong.

for morality everyone must stand alone. you guys all have to ask yourself if you're doing the right thing by standing by jeremys biased hate. and an answer of "well everyone else was doing it" just wont cut it