Howdy! Another quick update on the Billy vs TG case. Nothing earth-shattering, but I've been going through recent legal filings, and I found a few other things people might be interested in.
TG recently filed a "motion for undertaking", which would require Billy to fork over a deposit to cover legal fees TG is likely to be awarded in this case. On October 7, along with the filings regarding the recently revealed audio recordings of Billy and his "Top Secret" plot
(read this if don't know what I'm talking about), TG also filed a reply in support of that motion for undertaking - part of the back-and-forth going on between both parties over various facts of the case. In that filing, TG's lawyer, David Tashroudian, provides a very handy chart:
One of these items (number 3), I'd like to go into in a little more detail. One of Billy's current stories is that Carlos was not working on his behalf, and did not represent him. Basically, Billy wants us to believe Carlos was just some rando off the street who other people (Rob Childs, Steve Kleisath) had roped in, and that Billy had nothing to do with him or his technical analysis. (And thus Carlos' technical conclusion would carry no weight... I guess?) First item shown is from a lengthy text message conversation between Billy and Jace, as was published in Jace's declaration filed on June 26. Here's a tiny bit more from that convo:
This was the day of that long Facebook livestream during the dispute, if you remember that.
Anyway, yeah. "Carlos had sent me something to send to you..." But no, Billy didn't know the guy at all, of course. Didn't have anything to do with his autonomous attempts to study the case completely of his own accord. Of course.
The next part of this is actually pretty wild.
Okay, there you have a group message, with Billy, Jace, Carlos, and the late Joel West. (This is from Carlos' declaration filed on June 26.) Here Billy outright states "Joel has the authority to speak for me and request such things as he is the coordinator of my effort. The technical end is headed up by Carlos. Hope this clarifies any confusion."
Hope
this
clarifies
any
confusion.
Oh, but it gets better! Obviously, like the accomplished lie-smith that he is, Billy has to come up with yet another new story to explain away all this evidence that, yes, Carlos really did collaborate with Billy on his defense. Billy's new story?
Yes, you read that correctly. His story now is that Joel West (who has passed away and can't speak for himself) sent him that text exactly as is, that Joel asked Billy to forward it straight to Jace, that Billy never even read it before doing so, and that Billy soon called Jace to verbally inform him that this text message said the exact opposite of what he meant to say (on a phone call which, of course, there would be no recording of, as both participants live in "two-party" states).
As evidence, Billy helpfully provides a screenshot of what he claims was the text message Joel West sent to him earlier that day:
But as TG in their chart above point out, there are two big problems with Billy's "I didn't even read it" story. First of all.... Really? You just fire off stuff in your important high profile case without actually reading it? Second of all.... Still, Really? Okay, but seriously, notice how Billy changed his signature on the message from "Billy" to "BM". So he obviously interacted with the message a little more than simply firing it blind to the next person down the line. And finally, as you might notice, Billy didn't just forward it to Jace as asked. He sent it to Jace AND Carlos AND looped Joel back in on the conversation as well.
Here's that same message from Jace's perspective, from his June 26 declaration:
Why would Billy know to include those exact four people on a message he claims he never read? (Not to mention his claims that he never collaborated with Carlos, lol.)
Notice how in Jace's screenshot, Billy's text was sent at 8:28 AM (Pacific time), while in Carlos' it was sent at 11:28 AM (Eastern time). Just throwing that out there.
Tashroudian then references yet another text message from Billy to Carlos. Interestingly, this message was not included in Carlos' June declaration, but was included in a new recent declaration on October 7:
Yup. Billy asking Carlos to send their request for more time to Billy first, and he will send it to Jace after coordinating with Joel to make sure the requests match. And this was (checks stopwatch)... Great Scott!! Two minutes after the text we are asked to believe Billy forwarded without reading. Oh, this is heavy.
(Since someone will no doubt nitpick what I'm saying, no, the message being two minutes after the other has no bearing on whether Billy genuinely read the Joel message before forwarding it, although we have established that he did. But this definitely has bearing on Billy's current claims that the forwarded message didn't represent him and that Carlos was not a welcomed member of Billy's defense at that time.)
Okay, that's all for the above chart (and the Back to the Future references) for now, but while I was going back to original sources for these screenshots, I found this nugget among the text messages from Billy to Carlos back in the June declaration:
Geez, Billy. You know lying to the court is called perjury, don't you?
Anyway, the rest of the above chart is self-explanatory, and that almost wraps things up for today. But in thinking about that chart, I went back to thinking about another chart I'd seen, one in David Tashroudian's declaration on September 22. Here, he's basically outlining many of the costs that will be associated with litigating this case. This is because, again, TG is petitioning the court to require a deposit from Billy to cover these costs since TG is likely to prevail. Check out this list:
So here's a question.................... Do Billy's witnesses know this is going on? I'm not talking so much about people like Walter Day and Todd Rogers, I mean the "day players" further down the list. It seems likely they were just asked to sign some statement written by Billy Junior, and told no one will ever see this and this'll never go to court. That's what they told Carlos. From the sound of things, many TG-friendly witnesses are willing (perhaps some are even eager) to make themselves available for testimony. Do Billy's old high school friends and mortgage broker acquaintances know they're about to get a very scrutinous visit from the Mighty Mr. Tash?
And exactly how much confidence should they have that the current party line of when, where, and how Billy's DK scores were allegedly achieved isn't going to be undercut yet again by another old interview? Or by yet more text messages TG continues to withhold until needed (as they did with the newly published Billy-Carlos one)? Or by the fabled FAMB photos which are said to exist? Or by yet more audio recordings just waiting to be released?
For what it's worth, I still don't think we've found the last archival girder finger out there on the Internet. The previous one was only found by going to the MTV website and site-searching for "Mruczek", bringing up an interview that was not known to exist. Evener came pretty close last year, finding footage from CGE 2005 in the UK, which established many things but luckily for Billy failed to show a transition screen. Still, at this point, the next big discovery seems inevitable.
So who's going to be the next of Billy's pals to say "Hey, you know what, maybe I don't want to be a part of this after all"?
