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Offline homerwannabee

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Great Arcade game scores with no video evidence
« on: October 19, 2017, 04:04:09 pm »
I was wondering, what are some great arcade game scores that either have no video whatsoever, or they have very little video evidence.
Ones that come to mind.
Abdner Ashman-Jr. Pac-man
Mark Kiehl-Donkey Kong Junior
John Lexmark-Zoo Keeper
Any others people would like to mention?
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Re: Great Arcade game scores with no video evidence
« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2017, 04:21:27 pm »
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Re: Great Arcade game scores with no video evidence
« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2017, 05:07:31 pm »
very little video evidence.

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Re: Great Arcade game scores with no video evidence
« Reply #3 on: October 19, 2017, 05:58:47 pm »
Good thread idea George.

I'll post a few that haven't been mentioned and I believe to be real and on correct settings, rulesets, etc but have no video available, just off the top of my head.

Fred Pastore - Carnival
Paul Hornitzky - Discs of Tron
Jason Cram - Congo Bongo
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Re: Great Arcade game scores with no video evidence
« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2017, 06:12:00 pm »
Paul Hornitzky - Discs of Tron

I think this is a snippet from that game - ! No longer available

Edit: never mind, didn’t realise his TG score is *only* 589k
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Re: Great Arcade game scores with no video evidence
« Reply #5 on: October 19, 2017, 06:30:54 pm »
Don't forget Steve  W. "circa 1989" DK KS. The only player on that list that has no proof and it's treated as official.

Officially the Kill screener list should read 1) Billy M. 1982 2 Ben Jos Walbeen 1999 (MAME)
3) Tim Sczerby 2000 and "THEN" Steve W in 2003.

The Dragon's Lair 5 man record of 558k is bogus as well even though its listed as verified from a referee  which actually means nothing. You know I know about that.   ehhh..hmmm...KoK....uhh....hmmmm.
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Re: Great Arcade game scores with no video evidence
« Reply #6 on: October 19, 2017, 08:06:52 pm »
Don't forget Steve  W. "circa 1989" DK KS. The only player on that list that has no proof and it's treated as official.

Officially the Kill screener list should read 1) Billy M. 1982 2 Ben Jos Walbeen 1999 (MAME)
3) Tim Sczerby 2000 and "THEN" Steve W in 2003.

I'm pretty sure this has been explained before, but here we go again:

The Donkey Kong Kill-Screener Timeline is an unofficial list maintained by Chris Psaros, initially based on Hank Chien's The Official Unofficial List of DK Killscreeners and expanded by Chris.

Chris says:

There's quite a bit of "honor system" going on here, as well as gradations in legitimacy/verifiability.

We all know it's an unofficial list, we all know it's Hank/Chris/the community's best effort at identifying known killscreeners, and there are obviously some things that can never be accurately determined. Get over it. Move on. Put all this energy towards adjudicating TG submissions so you can earn the points necessary to start the Dragon's Lair dispute.
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Re: Great Arcade game scores with no video evidence
« Reply #7 on: October 19, 2017, 10:33:12 pm »
As Jeremy said, the KS list is a little loose with standards. I try to be as as inclusive as possible unless I feel like there's a good reason NOT to accept it.

The high score list is the stricter one, that needs either 1) evidence, or 2) verification outside of DKF.

In the case of Wiebe, he has always said that he achieved numerous killscreens and scores "in the 900s" during his college days in either 89 or 1990. I don't see any reason not to believe him. Here is an interview with Billy and Steve from Classic Game Expo 2004 where Steve talks about DK in his college days, the relevant part starts at about 8 minutes in.

It's definitely worth keeping in mind that if Steve isn't being truthful here, the motive couldn't possibly have anything to do with the King of Kong, because neither Steve nor Billy had any idea at the time of this interview that a film was going to be made. KoK didn't go into production until the following year.

At one point there was strong reason to believe that a particular claimed KS didn't happen (there was no evidence, and strong circumstantial counter-evidence), but that situation only came up once.
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