What's equivalent to a 1.1 million DK score in other Arcade games?

[homerwannabee]

There are 14 people who have gotten 1.1 million in Donkey Kong.   I still see that score as an amazing accomplishment.  So my question is, what other scores are equal to that?
So here's where I would put what might be equivalent scores.
925k in  Ms Pac Man
3 million on Junior Pac Man
800k for Robotron tournament settings
1.325 million in Donkey Kong Junior
10 million easy settings for Donkey Kong 3
750k in Crazy Kong
1 million in Galaxian
2 million in Missile Command
10 million in Galaga

Ok, that's my list.  How about yours?

[Barra]

54,500 on stocker

[QAOP Spaceman]

[homerwannabee]

Spaceman, this is just a fun mental exercise thread.  Don't get sanctimonious on me, and take a dump on it.
By the way you can compare apples to oranges with my line of thinking.
How many apples do you need in order to have the same amount of vitamin c as one orange.  Holy cow, I just compared apples wicth oranges, and it actually worked.
So I would like it if you wouldn't take a dump on my threads like this?  Can you PLEASE do that.  Let me be me without rejecting my thoughts, and ideas.

[marky_d]

I believe 1 million in Galaxian is significantly more difficult than 1.1m on DK.

[xelnia]

I believe 1 million in Galaxian is significantly more difficult than 1.1m on DK.

Same with 3 million on Jr. Pac.

[SanTe]

66k on Pole Position.  Only nine people documented to have done it.  I'd be #10 if I'd quit being lazy about recording, but hey, my photograph is more evidence than ever existed for the top 2 scores on this title, so there is that.  Got my third (and best) 66k score today on my first credit after not playing at all for three weeks:



Got 66,000 on April 9 of this year, then 66,010 on September 7, then 66,060 today.  At least I'm consistent.    In any event I was only sixteen hundredths of a second away from tying Graham Ogilvie, who I know has been playing Pole Position seriously for at least a decade.

There are a dozen or more very talented players in the competitive CAG hobby that have scored in the 65,5xx to 65,8xx range (John McAllister, Steve Wagner, and Matt Hall among them, and a few I've seen on KLOV), enough for me to think that 66k is noteworthy.  Even better, it's a super fun game that never gets old or tedious.

A few others based on nothing other than my general observations over the years:

860k on Crystal Castles
4.5M on Dig Dug
230k on Arabian
800k on Wild Western

Well actually, personal experience with those last two.

[GalacticDancin]

66k on Pole Position.  Only nine people documented to have done it.  I'd be #10 if I'd quit being lazy about recording, but hey, my photograph is more evidence than ever existed for the top 2 scores on this title, so there is that.  Got my third (and best) 66k score today on my first credit after not playing at all for three weeks:


Got 66,000 on April 9 of this year, then 66,010 on September 7, then 66,060 today.  At least I'm consistent.    In any event I was only sixteen hundredths of a second away from tying Graham Ogilvie, who I know has been playing Pole Position seriously for at least a decade.

There are a dozen or more very talented players in the competitive CAG hobby that have scored in the 65,5xx to 65,8xx range (John McAllister, Steve Wagner, and Matt Hall among them, and a few I've seen on KLOV), enough for me to think that 66k is noteworthy.  Even better, it's a super fun game that never gets old or tedious.

A few others based on nothing other than my general observations over the years:

860k on Crystal Castles
4.5M on Dig Dug
230k on Arabian
800k on Wild Western

Well actually, personal experience with those last two.

Congrats.  whats your HS on the Vectrex version?

[homerwannabee]

Hmm, interesting on Galaxian.  I played the MAME game about 250 times, and the best I could come up with was 50k.  So yeah, it might be harder to get a million on Galaxian.
Jr. Pac Man deserves an asterisk though.  There are no recorded full games 1.5 million or larger.
If Abdner were ever to bust out a full 3 million point video, I am pretty sure people would copy the patterns, or even the method, and getting 3 million on Junior Pac Man would be much easier.  Still would be super hard, but not as hard as creating your own patterns.
Pole position I know enough to think getting 66k is much easier than 1.1 million on Donkey Kong.
I had 12 games to focus on, and I still got 62,460 on the game.  I basically skipped the hard wheel turn on the second, third, and fourth laps.
Give me all day with the machine, and I could probably get a run with all hard wheel turns, and I'd get a whole lot higher than my BOTA score.

[SanTe]

Pole position I know enough to think getting 66k is much easier than 1.1 million on Donkey Kong.

Okay let's see it.  Put up or shut up.

I had 12 games to focus on, and I still got 62,460 on the game.  I basically skipped the hard wheel turn on the second, third, and fourth laps.  Give me all day with the machine, and I could probably get a run with all hard wheel turns, and I'd get a whole lot higher than my BOTA score.

This shows just how little you know about the game.

[WCopeland]

What's interesting is neither one of you have a 1.1m Donkey Kong score, yet are making sweeping statements about your perceived difficulty of said score.

[serphintizer]

What Wes said.

I find it funny how some try to bring down (whether directly or indirectly) a 1.1 million DK score. It is almost like they compare it to their pet subjective oranges in order to make themselves feel just a little bit better for a time.

Donkey Kong is the gold standard; and a 1.1 is a world-beater type accomplishment (in my totally unbiased and factual opinion).

So, having said all that, if we were to compare apples to apples, the only thing comparable to a 1.1 million DK score would be cracking the top five in Carnival and Black Widow.

[Barra]

There just isn't enough data available to make most of these comparisons.

You say 10m on DK3 but you're the only person that will probably ever topple that mark. Next best isn't even 1/3 of that.

800k on robotron isn't comparable either. There isn't one similarity between the two games. One takes 10 minutes one takes 3 hours. Almost safe to say no one will ever do both (unless I'm missing someone here)

3m on jr pac, only 1 person ever done that and the rest aren't close.

In reality you need, at the very least, 2 people who have done both to even start making comparisons. As I said, not enough data here.

[homerwannabee]

Ok, to be honest I think Barra has a point.  Just not enough information.  Is a certain score an outlier or is it simply not enough competition.  You never truly know until more competition comes.
As far as Wes.  Yes, you have a point about neither of us having 1.1 million, and none of us truly know because neither has reached the mountain top we are arguing about.  Still, lest I remind you, you have said in the past that 1.3 million on Donkey Kong Junior is equivalent to 1.1 million on Donkey Kong despite never having hit 1.3 million on Donkey Kong Junior.
Lastly, Spaceman is right in a way about apples, and oranges, but it's not how most people think.
The main problem is none of us have the same brain.  Meaning that, what one finds easy, the other finds hard.  For instance it was a long journey to reach 1.3 million.  It took years.  Mike Kasper, and Corey Chambers did this in a matter of six to nine months.  However, both have struggled with Donkey Kong 3.  Something I don't find much of a problem.

[Barra]

What we can do is make comparisons using accomplishments we've actually achieved. They're a much more accurate measure, but keep in mind mileage will vary;

DK KS ~ 1m Galaga
DK 1m ~ Galaga KS