Author Topic: When do you think A.I. will be able to break the Donkey Kong world record?  (Read 13651 times)

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Re: When do you think A.I. will be able to break the Donkey Kong world record?
« Reply #16 on: February 12, 2018, 12:16:05 pm »
But today, I'd love to hear a roll call from anyone willing to having had practiced harder stages in Donkey Kong by using MAME as a tool to build up motor-memory for the game.

Literally 99% of active members of this forum.

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Re: When do you think A.I. will be able to break the Donkey Kong world record?
« Reply #17 on: February 12, 2018, 07:25:55 pm »
I'm not saying this to sound high and mighty, but to the best of my knowledge I am the only active player who has never played DK in mame.  I always assumed that I was in a boat with only  <Wiebe> and  <Billy> in this regard (and maybe  <Kuh> ), and that is the reason I chose the "long road" so to speak. It wouldn't surprise me to learn that all 3 of them have played on mame (specifically to hone their skills on certain screens), I'm sure there were plenty of 3-500K players back in the 80's and early 90's that took this route, if only by necessity. 

To answer your question, If you counted  <Wiebe> and  <Billy> in the percentages, it would still be over 99% as Wes stated.  Learning without mame is dumb and takes infinitely longer, from my experience.  <YSG>
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Re: When do you think A.I. will be able to break the Donkey Kong world record?
« Reply #18 on: February 12, 2018, 07:53:19 pm »
I've heard the argument that one shouldn't use emulator functions to practice and, similarly, I've heard that practicing Connect Four in perfect-play software is "cheating". (if the latter sounds out of place, allow me to add that C4 has been a fixture in my life and, when I'm de-rusted, am an expert player in the game). If it's simply a preference, like with f_symbols, that's one's prerogative.

To actually insist or demand that others do the same is just ROFL To me, it's like saying you can only practice kicking field goals during a real game or that you can only practice running during a race.

Thankfully, at least 99% of people here would agree with me and the whole argument is moot  <Allen><Sanders>