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Title: McManus is a real last name!
Post by: homerwannabee on September 08, 2013, 07:36:10 pm
Saw this article, and the writer has the last name of McManus.  So yes indeed, this last name does exist!

http://espn.go.com/tennis/usopen13/story/_/id/9646691/us-open-novak-djokovic-pulls-big-stage (http://espn.go.com/tennis/usopen13/story/_/id/9646691/us-open-novak-djokovic-pulls-big-stage)
Title: Re: McManus is a real last name!
Post by: ChrisP on September 08, 2013, 08:59:48 pm
wht da?

Huh???
Title: Re: McManus is a real last name!
Post by: TheSunshineFund on September 08, 2013, 09:40:17 pm
There's also Jim McManus...famous for calling down in a LHE WSOP event with a Jack high (Queen high really).

Ellix Powers gets called with jack high (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXGVfOT5FoE#)
Title: Re: McManus is a real last name!
Post by: ChrisP on September 08, 2013, 09:48:15 pm
I'd like to take this opportunity to recommend Jim's "Positively Fourth Street" and "Cowboys Full: The Story of Poker."

I think Ellix is homeless again, BTW.
Title: Re: McManus is a real last name!
Post by: TheSunshineFund on September 08, 2013, 09:53:39 pm
God willing he was able to retain the Kangol hat.....
Title: Re: McManus is a real last name!
Post by: marinomitch13 on September 08, 2013, 09:54:04 pm
I trained for the NFL with a player whose last name was McManus.
Title: Re: McManus is a real last name!
Post by: Shane_NC on September 09, 2013, 01:10:22 am
PWNASAURUS, I have been looking for that clip for a long time... That was BY FAR the best final table in WSOP history. That broadcast is hilarious and powers has some real style . that guy is awesome lol.
Title: Re: McManus is a real last name!
Post by: Shane_NC on September 09, 2013, 01:11:33 am
In addition, in HBOs old show "Oz" there is a fictional character know as Tim McManus.
Title: Re: McManus is a real last name!
Post by: TheSunshineFund on September 09, 2013, 04:18:36 am
PWNASAURUS, I have been looking for that clip for a long time... That was BY FAR the best final table in WSOP history. That broadcast is hilarious and powers has some real style . that guy is awesome lol.

Love it.

Title: Re: McManus is a real last name!
Post by: mikegmi2 on September 09, 2013, 05:28:32 am
Ah yea I loved that final table.  I wasn't a huge fan of Ellix and how he handled himself at the table...but with that much money on the line you've got to do your thing and play every angle possible to give yourself an edge...if that means rubbing a couple people the wrong way so be it...but then don't be surprised if you don't have a bunch of new poker friends afterwards.
Title: Re: McManus is a real last name!
Post by: TheSunshineFund on September 09, 2013, 05:49:55 am
Televised poker needs the personalities like Tony G. to appeal to casual viewers/players I would think.  I could watch someone like Phil Galfond play ring games all day long but I assume HSP  on GSN must not have kept up the ratings necessary.  That's a shame.  I do love me some Tony G. though, reminds me of my buddy Craig who numerous times while playing at b&m casinos up and down Atlantic City, has been threatened physically after similar displays.  Love it.

Tony G vs Ralph Perry Classic blow up (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynLSJHxBags#)
Title: Re: McManus is a real last name!
Post by: mikegmi2 on September 09, 2013, 06:12:53 am
Oh man I remember that one too.  I think Tony G kinda got lucky there because there's no way he wanted a call (any ace is usually good 4 handed, but I still don't think he wanted a call).  He had ace rag, suited, but big deal, and he was trying to get Perry to fold with his all-in.  The 2 seconds from where Tony flipped up his cards, until he saw Perry's cards, Tony felt like an idiot...but after he saw he was ahead, he started yapping again.  My amateur analysis. 

On your bike, lol, Kappa
Title: Re: McManus is a real last name!
Post by: TheSunshineFund on September 09, 2013, 06:29:24 am
I'm going to start using "on your bike" in the DK lexicon and see how far it goes....
Title: Re: McManus is a real last name!
Post by: mikegmi2 on September 09, 2013, 06:39:57 am
Yea come to my stream and say "on your bike" every time I die.

Kappa
Title: Re: McManus is a real last name!
Post by: TheSunshineFund on September 09, 2013, 06:51:37 am
Yea come to my stream and say "on your bike" every time I die.

Kappa

Ha ha.  I was planning on using it similar to "Got em", good bottom hammer, grouping, etc.
Title: Re: McManus is a real last name!
Post by: mikegmi2 on September 09, 2013, 07:30:51 am
Ah ok yea, like a way of telling the barrels you just smashed or the fireball you just jumped to get out of your way..."on your bike" with your weaksauce.
Title: Re: McManus is a real last name!
Post by: lakeman421 on September 09, 2013, 11:36:00 am
My 4th grade teacher was Mrs. McManus.  This name has been a major influence on my life.  I doubt she ever called me a poser though.
Title: Re: McManus is a real last name!
Post by: stella_blue on September 09, 2013, 01:14:12 pm
My 4th grade teacher was Mrs. McManus.  This name has been a major influence on my life.  I doubt she ever called me a poser though.

As far as you know.   ;)

"Mr. and Mrs. Lakeman, thank you so much for stopping by.  It's always a pleasure meeting the parents of my students.  Robbie is a bright, insightful, and inquisitive child.  He excels in math, science, and spelling.  On the other hand, he doesn't always pay attention, occasionally disrupts my classroom with immature behavior, and rarely turns in his homework assignments on time.  I'm convinced he has the potential to be a straight "A" student, if he wasn't such a poser."

Title: Re: McManus is a real last name!
Post by: LMDAVE on September 09, 2013, 01:26:53 pm
Why was it thought that the name didn't exist in the first place?
Title: Re: McManus is a real last name!
Post by: Bliss1083 on September 09, 2013, 02:20:59 pm
Totally unrelated but since wsop was brought up I always thought Jesus ferguson would be a good bill Mitchell.
Title: Re: McManus is a real last name!
Post by: lakeman421 on September 09, 2013, 03:09:40 pm
My 4th grade teacher was Mrs. McManus.  This name has been a major influence on my life.  I doubt she ever called me a poser though.

As far as you know.   ;)

"Mr. and Mrs. Lakeman, thank you so much for stopping by.  It's always a pleasure meeting the parents of my students.  Robbie is a bright, insightful, and inquisitive child.  He excels in math, science, and spelling.  On the other hand, he doesn't always pay attention, occasionally disrupts my classroom with immature behavior, and rarely turns in his homework assignments on time.  I'm convinced he has the potential to be a straight "A" student, if he wasn't such a poser."

That was extremely accurate of what my teachers always said about me.
Title: Re: McManus is a real last name!
Post by: ChrisP on September 09, 2013, 03:27:18 pm
Totally unrelated but since wsop was brought up I always thought Jesus ferguson would be a good bill Mitchell.

Yeah well, Chris Ferguson can give me my 700 dollar Full Tilt balance back first.

Of course, Black Friday is the only reason I'm here at all so I guess I got something for my money.

(This is now a poker thread)
Title: Re: McManus is a real last name!
Post by: stella_blue on September 09, 2013, 03:40:21 pm
That was extremely accurate of what my teachers always said about me.

Yeah, my 9th grade history teacher told my parents I was defiant, because I always leaned back in my chair with arms folded, refusing to take any notes.

To the best of my knowledge, he has never survived the L3-2 conveyor stage, even when the free pass is available.   :)

Title: Re: McManus is a real last name!
Post by: Bliss1083 on September 09, 2013, 07:43:54 pm
Chris. Sorry man. I read something about that scam. Not sure but they made characters that could see opponents cards and bet according to what they were up against or fold all together. I forgot all about that. Is that what you're talking about?
Title: Re: McManus is a real last name!
Post by: mikegmi2 on September 10, 2013, 06:07:41 am
No, that happened on UB (Ultimate Bet).  Someone was using a master account to be able to see all the hole cards of the other players at the table.  They basically played it stupidly and won nearly every hand...which got the attention of some of the other smart high stakes players...who did an analysis of like 100,000 hands of this cheating player.  Their win rate was like 100 standard deviations above the average or something ridiculous like that.

I used to play a lot on Poker Stars, and would always wonder if anything like this was going on.  When I finally heard this story, and that they actually tracked down the cheater and somewhat brought them to justice (I don't think the people that were cheated out of their money were ever refunded, but the cheater was shut down)...I was pretty shocked...actually I was floored....I couldn't believe it, but also kinda relieved because my suspicions were true.  I stopped playing online poker after that.

Full Tilt basically got shut down along with many other online poker sites operating for US customers.  Black Friday was the day the sites were taken over by the US Government.  I remember trying to go to Full Tilt and nothing but some generic white webpage with text on it came up.  I guess most of the players never got their money back once the site was shut down.  Total loss.

Sorry you lost some money from that Chris, that sucks.
Title: Re: McManus is a real last name!
Post by: lifereboot on September 10, 2013, 08:44:48 am
I'm interested in the documentary "Bet Raise Fold" (previously had a working title of "Boom") which covers the lives of rising poker stars before the "Black Friday" April 15 2011, and the aftermath.

BET RAISE FOLD: Official Trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-ROorrK1pY#ws)

I tried playing poker professionally for 9 months through PartyPoker.com, had a good thing going for a while until they started satellites for the WSOP.  I needed to finish top 12 to win a $11,000 WSOP prize package ($10k for the WSOP buy-in, $1k for the trip).  Out of 660 players I placed 28th and I went full tilt after that loss.  Holding AA and he had KK, he raised all in before the flop I called and he tripped up.  I had more money than him so I wasn't out of the tournament at that moment, but I never recovered.  If my AA held up I would have coasted into the top 12, and would have been the youngest player in the WSOP that year.  I also think that my life today would be quite different.

I wrote up a longer explanation of my experience with online poker on my blog, if anyone's interested: http://www.lifereboot.com/2007/how-to-conquer-addiction/ (http://www.lifereboot.com/2007/how-to-conquer-addiction/)
Title: Re: McManus is a real last name!
Post by: mikegmi2 on September 10, 2013, 09:12:58 am
That's weird.  I had a similar situation but in a cash game...with basically the same final outcome.  Same exact hands, my AA vs. KK pre flop, all in, about an $800 pot, K came on the river and I lost.  Went on tilt from there and slowly lost my bankroll over a period of a few months.  Lifetime I am probably even.  Lost about $1000 initially, then built up my account to like $2000...then lost it all back.

People will argue that skill is the absolute main factor for becoming a great poker player, but I feel that is BS.

Being in control of your emotions, and sadly luck, are more important in my opinion.  Anyone can understand poker and play the odds correctly...it doesn't take a genius to understand pot odds and all the math involved...and once you get to that level, that group of people with a great understanding of the game...it's all about emotion and luck.  Emotion is key.  Fear and greed do not mix well with anger.
Title: Re: McManus is a real last name!
Post by: mikegmi2 on September 10, 2013, 09:41:17 am
Is that documentary out yet Shaun?  I would like to watch it.  I guess maybe I should google it.

Speaking of poker crashes, I used to run a charity poker room (never made a dime, but raised about $60k in 2.5 years for local charities, which i'll always be happy about), and ours was a smaller room compared to others, like Snookers Poker Room (started out as a few poker tables inside a pool hall / bar...but the location was perfect, and it grew into the biggest poker room in Michigan...bigger than even the 3 large casinos we have in Detroit).  Well the Michigan Charitable Gaming Division regulated all of the charity poker rooms in the state, up until last September.  At that time, the Michigan Gaming Control Board (the big boys, who regulate the casinos) took over regulation of all charity poker rooms.  I predicted Snookers was going down.  Sure enough, they were out of business a few months later.  Don, the owner of Snookers, was making around $1M a year, maybe more.  There was a $25,000 chip sales cap per day, per charity.  Snookers, at their peak, was running 6-8 charities per day.  It was insane.  All gone now.

Joe Cada, 2009 WSOP winner, opened a room (cough cough, I mean his Dad opened a poker room...you can't play in a charity poker room as the owner...and he wanted to play there to bring in players) a few miles down the road from Snookers, and they were doing well too, but I believe they're out of business too now? 

It's just kinda crazy how these things pop up and do so well, then come crashing down.

One thing on my bucket list is to play in the WSOP Main Event.  Maybe i'll get back into poker after I stop being a DK poser.
Title: Re: McManus is a real last name!
Post by: TheSunshineFund on September 10, 2013, 09:45:13 am
A few friends and I played part time in Atlantic City about once a month or so off and on for close to 10 years playing as low as 1/2 NLHE and 4/8 Stud to as high as 5/10 NLHE.  Through solid bankroll management and good game selection (this is where it is helpful to be part of a group) I was able to eventually pay for a decent chunk of my house.  I stopped playing once we bought the house back in 2009, but then I saw King of Kong and I found something sort of new to try (rediscover). 

Some people have a regular home game....we had a regular road game....

On my bike......
Title: Re: McManus is a real last name!
Post by: mikegmi2 on September 10, 2013, 10:18:23 am
Nice!  I still have market trading in my sites as a way to do exactly that.  I have been at it for around 10 years now on and off.

Are you saying you reached your goals through collusion?  Or just that your group of friends helped you emotionally, etc.
Title: Re: McManus is a real last name!
Post by: JNugent on September 10, 2013, 10:26:05 am
Who on DKF believed Tim Sczerby 'made up' the name McManus?  McManus is a fairly common name.  And how did this topic derail to poker?
Title: Re: McManus is a real last name!
Post by: TheSunshineFund on September 10, 2013, 10:40:05 am
Nice!  I still have market trading in my sites as a way to do exactly that.  I have been at it for around 10 years now on and off.

Are you saying you reached your goals through collusion?  Or just that your group of friends helped you emotionally, etc.

Certainly not collusion at the table, no one would soft play each other.  It's just easier to know which games exhibit which behaviors when you have a group of people all playing at different tables, it's sort of like live poker tracker if that makes sense.  Then you would look for a specific seat to open should a game exhibit perceived favorable behaviors.  This takes awhile, obviously, but I didn't have to be anywhere else so wtf.

I suppose it's akin to someone telling a buddy at another table that there's some drunk guy spewing chips at his table, it was just much more elegant and perceptive in nature I suppose.  Sometimes it was unnecessary though, for example, when I was taking shots at 5/10 NL, you did not want to see young Asian kids, that would be a 2/5 NL day instead, etc.  All things being equal though, when you play a lot with good players that are constantly evaluating players at their table and calculating tendencies, it's quite helpful long term especially when you played at the same casino every month.  In a game of incomplete information, any inputs are helpful and at those limits, you hardly saw many people changing their play.
Title: Re: McManus is a real last name!
Post by: TheSunshineFund on September 10, 2013, 11:00:34 am
I should probably shut up now and stop derailing this thread.

Getting back on topic....I'm posting at a non-poser pace lately.  Kappa.
Title: Re: McManus is a real last name!
Post by: JNugent on September 10, 2013, 11:02:06 am
Technically, Steve, I think I might be wrong about the derail.  Since McManus is the name of a prominent of poker player, it is on topic Kappa.
Keepo.
Title: Re: McManus is a real last name!
Post by: mikegmi2 on September 10, 2013, 11:26:12 am
I bet Eddie Rickenbacker was a good poker player.
Title: Re: McManus is a real last name!
Post by: lakeman421 on September 10, 2013, 11:45:25 am
I played professionally on Pokerstars for a few months playing sit-n-gos.  I was in the WSOP Main Event qualifier and top 156 got the prize package for buy-in and expenses.  I got 228th I believe losing an all in with 10 10 to KQ off suit after over 8 hours of playing.  It was a hard hit to take.  The funny thing about online poker is that the cards are shuffeled based on a RNG and I noticed a few patterns and used it to my advantage.  I actually was close to black listed because people complained about how often I won.  Black Friday happened and now I actually have to work for a living  >:( 
Title: Re: McManus is a real last name!
Post by: mikegmi2 on September 10, 2013, 12:00:24 pm
How many SNG would you play at a time?

And I don't think the Poker Stars card shuffler was a simple RNG.  It used user inputs such as mouse movements and thing of that sort to shuffle the cards...so I don't know how anyone could ever recognize patterns.  Could have been coincidence...or I could be wrong.

Title: Re: McManus is a real last name!
Post by: TheSunshineFund on September 10, 2013, 12:02:09 pm
It had moods.
Title: Re: McManus is a real last name!
Post by: lakeman421 on September 10, 2013, 01:59:31 pm
How many SNG would you play at a time?

And I don't think the Poker Stars card shuffler was a simple RNG.  It used user inputs such as mouse movements and thing of that sort to shuffle the cards...so I don't know how anyone could ever recognize patterns.  Could have been coincidence...or I could be wrong.

I used to play 20-25 at a time my goal would be to play at least 50 of them a night.  I used to dominate the Double or Nothing SNGs at medium stakes.  The pattern or trend I was able to notice was when they handed me a great hand like QQ and based on the previous couple hands I could tell when it was time to fold and fair enough an ace or king would fall.  It wasnt that I knew what was coming but when I was set up to lose a big hand.  Increasing your odds by a small percentage makes all the difference in the world if you played as many SNGs as I did.  If you look on their site they can give you all the info on their RNG.  There were even books I read about the RNG where the outcome was also determined by your winning percentage and the players at your table.