I'm out of town at the moment and will have some input when I get back. In the meantime, someone page ChrisP for his input AS WELL.
I'm out of town at the moment and will have some input when I get back. In the meantime, someone page ChrisP for his input AS WELL.
I would certainly welcome his input. In his stickied thread regarding DK pcbs and romsets, he mentions he is not opposed to accepting scores on a DDK pcb.
Thanks for chiming in, Xelnia. Classifying a score as DDK would be fine by me. I just thought the flat out "not accepted" was a little harsh considering the community trusts Scott Brasington's HS save kits on individual pcbs. Since he also created DDK, it would seem it would be accepted. My plan is to get the DDK Remix added to my DDK, also. Will those submissions have to have a DDK next to them or would they be Arcade classified? Sorry for rambling, just trying to get this straight in my head. The community allows each of these gentlemen's kits on individual pcbs, so, I'm hoping the combined DDK Remix will ultimately be an accepted platform for Arcade submissions.
Thanks,
RC
| Arcade | = TKG4 or unknown (some earlier TG scores may not have been TKG4). |
| TKG3 | = 4 board set using the US Set 1 ROM. |
| Multi | = A Multi PCB (X-in-1) configuration. |
| MAME | = Any version of WolfMAME or unknown (scores prior to May 2006 are not 0.106, scores prior to July 2003 are not WolfMAME) |
| * | = A D2K and/or Remix board was plugged into the Z80 processor location. |
| ^ | = A high score save kit was plugged into the Z80 processor location. |
I finally re-found the discussion I was reading years ago!
https://zota.org/2008/02/07/donkey-controversy/
In the comments on this article there is an RTM reply, where he quotes an email from Greg Erway. In reference to Wiebe's DK and DK Junior records (for which Wiebe used a DDK board) Greg says:
"I do remember a discussion about the DKJr. score being reclassified too and that a decision was made (not sure who the group was that made the decision but I was not part of it) to not reclassify the DK Jr. score. The fact is, Double Donkey Kong is made out of an original DK Jr. boardset. There is a higher likelyhood of differences between DK Jr. on a unmodified board and a DDK board due to that fact. As much has been claimed for DK on a DK board and DK on a DDK board however I believe someone determined there was different timing in reguards to the timer (and how long you can live at 000 before a death)."
I don't have access to a DDK for testing, but this would probably be pretty easy to test. (I believe DDK is emulated in MAME now, for what that's worth.)
At any rate, in all the years since this brouhaha, and despite suspicions about "likelihood of differences", nobody has conclusively (or even tentatively) demonstrated any disparity between DK running on a TKG board and DK running on a DJR board. IMO, since the hardware is near-identical, there's no reason to think that there would be a difference.
As far as I'm concerned, after all the remixing and <snek>ing John K. has proven to be an expert on DK on both the hardware and software level, so I would defer to his opinion on this. If he says "easy accept", then so do I!