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General Donkey Kong Discussion => General Donkey Kong Discussion => Topic started by: homerwannabee on April 19, 2016, 05:56:38 am
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Over the past year there has been a fierce back, and forth between Wes, and Robbie. So fierce that only Billy Vs Steve really is of any comparison for elite Donkey Kong rivals. Wes getting the record back marks the 5th time the record has changed hands between the two. About as many as Billy Vs Steve. I think it's gotten to the point where this is a good poll to make.
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<Tim> Left out again!!!
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I find your lack of Hank vs. Vincent disturbing. Kappa
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To be honest I've always thought the rivalries were a little unnecessary, for 2 reasons..
first, they are not really "rivalries" (as far as I know) its kind of just put on for "outside" entertainment but the players don't really hold any grudges toward one another, eg Hank v Vince and Wes v Robbie..
second reason is the King of Kong, even though thats why most of us are playing the game in the first place I still think any traditions stemming from that movie should probably be allowed to die out....the community is far more skilled and ...honest .. <Billy> to the point were those guys are pretty much irrelivant now, but we still seem to do the rivalry thing becase it was "in the movie" <Wiebe>
That said, I guess JCB vs Allen vs BA actally IS a rivalry since they absoltley hate one another <popcorn>
I voted for the first option just to see the results anyway.
((( <Pigger> ))))
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I find your lack of Hank vs. Vincent disturbing. Kappa
Did Vincent EVER have a higher score than Hank? Not much of a rivalry if that never happens.
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<Tim> Left out again!!!
ROFL
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To be honest I've always thought the rivalries were a little unnecessary, for 2 reasons..
first, they are not really "rivalries" (as far as I know) its kind of just put on for "outside" entertainment but the players don't really hold any grudges toward one another, eg Hank v Vince and Wes v Robbie..
I don't think we have rivalries because of the movie, I think we have rivalries because the emergence of rivalries tends to be a natural occurrence in any competitive endeavor.
Vincent vs. Hank was the most tongue-in-cheek of all of them, and they were the funniest "couple" due to the massive contrasts between the two of them, which is why it was my favorite. :)
Well, second favorite. Nothing in history compares to BA vs. Allen.
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the big 3 all day
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It depends what you mean by rivalry. If it's about who challenged the most the other, it's definitely Wes and Robbie. They are the only one who really pushed themselves to maxout DK on arcade.
If we speak about the rivalry that made the most impact on the scene, it's obviously Billy and Steve. Without them, there wouldn't be any DK players.
If we speak about real emotional rivalries, it's obviously Allen and JBC Kappa
Me and Hank wasn't a rilvalry, it's was a bromance BibleThump
But personally, the best rivalry would go to Tim Sczerby and Seth Gordon Kappa
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I voted for the big 3; lets face it, it's the only rivalry that matters.
Obviously, the score isn't what we care about regarding rivalries (or we'd compare them all to 1.206), so the clear choice is the big 3.
If we decided to look at rivalries between the best players in the world (the highest known scores at the time), Then the Billy/Steve rivalry was actually the only time you had a battle between the two highest scoring players on the game (Dean broke the highest arcade score in 2009, and has yet to have his "current pb" topped (or taken away from him) at any time in the last 7 years).
So what?
It doesn't seem fair to exclude him from these rivalry discussions simply because no else was (or had been) on his level at the time; IMO a rivalry for the best has to involve the best, so it's either Billy v. Steve, or we just go with the true rivalry and stick to the big 3
EDIT: <stirpot>
EDIT EDIT: Or, we call it the greatest arcade rivaly
EDIT EDIT EDIT: ^ and then it's obviously Robbie and Wes based on the associated skill sets for the higher scores.
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OK, originally I only had
Billy Vs. Steve
And
Wes Vs. Robbie
But then Xelnia or someone else edited my poll to put in the "Big 3"
My intention was never "Greatest" rivalry, but simply which was the greater rivalry between these two sets of people.
So far Wes Vs. Robbie is leading the way with my original question.
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FailFish
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FailFish
Did you expect anything less? 8)
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AS vs BA, and its not even close.
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Meh diskborste.. Me thinks the rivalry between Diskborste and Dimmu--borgir blows everything else. One <Wiebe> is the Swedish champion and one is not. <Tim>
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IMO much of the community wouldn't have an interest in DK without the film depicting Billy Mitchell Vs. Steve Wiebe. Other playful rivalries are fun but you can't deny the significance of Billy vs Steve.
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I can see the argument for Allen Staal Vs Brian Allen, but the truth of the matter is in twenty years this rivalry will be not as significant as it is today, and the rivalry between Wes, and Robbie will be remembered more. The new blood if there is any is not going to appreciate Allen Vs. Brian, and the old timers well go "Well you would have had to been there to get it."
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Perhaps you could have saved everyone some time by naming this thread "let me tell you why Robbie and Wes are the best rivalry", because it seems you're just disagreeing with all the feedback anyway ;D
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Perhaps you could have saved everyone some time by naming this thread "let me tell you why Robbie and Wes are the best rivalry", because it seems your just disagreeing with all the feedback anyway ;D
Again, I did not say "best", I did not say "greatest". This is more a rivalry comparing the arcade champions, and which champions had a better rivalry. That is what I wanted to know. If I did "best" I probably would include Ross Vs. Dean as well, and Ben Jos Vs. Tim Sczerby.
Originally I only had two.
Also I am not completely decided on Robbie Vs. Wes. To be honest Billy with his secret tapes, and the political intrigue that went along with it against Steve also made for a good rivalry.
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I would've ticked Allen vs. BA if JBC wasn't in there. No one cares what he is doing.
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Look, I get the rivalry between Allen Vs Brian. It has been going for around four years now. Even when both players sucked they were going at each other. There have been Team Allen, and Team Brian even. There has been a lot of emotion involved with it as well, and it's the only one that has been really heated. So if people want to vote for that rivalry as "Best" I am cool with that. So I think two questions are being answered with this poll.
Allen Vs. Brian is looking like it's the "Best" rivalry
Wes Vs. Robbie is looking like it's the "Better" rivalry compared to Billy Vs. Steve.
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...To be honest Billy with his secret tapes, and the political intrigue that went along with it against Steve also made for a good rivalry.
Not to mention the complete lack of shared strategy (at least supposedly). They had to figure out how to beat the other guy, never knowing what he was working on behind closed doors, without the communal knowledge base.
<Billy> <Wiebe>
I would go so far as to say the idea of a rivalry isn't necessarily always applicable, sometimes it just so happens that you have multiple people with exceptional talent and motivation, both interested in the same thing at the same time, it's not always about beating the other guy, sometimes, for example, it's simply about testing ones DNA 8)
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...sometimes, for example, it's simply about testing ones DNA 8)
The ultimate rivalry. 8)
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I guess it depends on how you define "greater" or "best" or whatever.
<Billy> vs <Wiebe> is classic, but it's been quite a while and it doesn't resonate as much anymore. There was a lot of weirdness with all that also, sketchy tapes, DDK issues etc. But at the same time, that rivalry (real, false, or exaggerated) paved the way for this very forum and all the monkeyheads out there.
Robbie vs Wes is current news so it's hot. they've also been taking the game to a much higher level than before, trading scores way above the rest of the pack. They've also traded the score so many times, it's insane.
Brian Allen Staal/ JCB is just fun times with real emotions maybe, fun for the audience but ultimately irrelevant.
So are you judging by later influence, current reality, or fun times?
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Allen VS Jason VS Brian has been fun, but let's be honest here. It's not a real rivalry. It's basically just been JCB toying with the other two until he got bored with them and just decided to get the million over with.
Let's see how long he can last before he decides to bop Dean. Also, by how much. Will he be a showman and take the WR by 100 or will he just get it over with and get that 1.75 million he's always on pace for, but never bothers to finish.
<popcorn>
This could be epic.
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It's basically just been JCB toying with the other two until he decided he got bored with them and just decided to get the million over with.
Yeahh......nah
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It's basically just been JCB toying with the other two until he decided he got bored with them and just decided to get the million over with.
Yeahh......nah
Don't be hatin'. You just jealous cuz you know JCB is a legend. Kreygasm
In fact, I submit a motion for him to get his own emote on this site.
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Don't be hatin'. You just jealous cuz you know JCB is a legend. Kreygasm
In fact, I submit a motion for him to get his own emote on this site.
FailFish