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General Donkey Kong Discussion => General Donkey Kong Discussion => Topic started by: homerwannabee on January 06, 2016, 10:45:04 pm
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A thought occurred to me. We have some pretty famous people in this hobby. Billy Mitchell, and Steve Wiebe have had millions see their movie as it has been on cable a few times. Hank Chien, Dean Saglio, Robby Lakeman, and now Wes Copeland have received national attention. But having said that this game is actively played by less than 250 people at any given time. And with that I am probably being generous.
It seems to me that their popularity far outweighs how big this community is. Not saying they are superstars, but let's be honest this is a niche of a niche of a niche hobby. So in a sense I believe these people have become bigger than the hobby. Yes Tiger Woods is famous, but millions play golf actively. Yes Lebron James is famous, but millions of people play basketball actively. So their stardom doesn't really outweigh the activity of the hobby as a whole.
But with this hobby, I truly believe people are bigger than the hobby.
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None of those sports have an Allen Staal. <Allen> u luv it!
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Hacksaw Jim Duggan is bigger than Wes. HOooooooo!
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We have some pretty famous people in this hobby.
I disagree.
If you mean 'famous' as in the average person in the street would recognise a name or a face, there's maybe one - at a stretch. And they don't know the name, just the mullet. And for any normal person who happens to remember him from that film they were half paying attention to on a wet Thursday night in November a coupla yeras ago, he's a focus of derision and even contempt.
It seems to me that their popularity far outweighs how big this community is.
This is impossible. Their 'popularity' is exclusively within 'this community' (i.e. a couple of hundred handbangers).
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Another homerun in my books George 8) Kreygasm
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We have some pretty famous people in this hobby.
I disagree.
If you mean 'famous' as in the average person in the street would recognise a name or a face, there's maybe one - at a stretch. And they don't know the name, just the mullet. And for any normal person who happens to remember him from that film they were half paying attention to on a wet Thursday night in November a coupla yeras ago, he's a focus of derision and even contempt.
It seems to me that their popularity far outweighs how big this community is.
This is impossible. Their 'popularity' is exclusively within 'this community' (i.e. a couple of hundred handbangers).
Yeah, I think this could get into an argument of semantics. I think we have a fairly close idea of how popular the Donkey Kong champs, and Steve Wiebe, and Billy Mitchell are.
Perhaps "Pretty famous" is a bad term. I guess I would change this to people who have gotten "National attention" for their gaming.
So having said that I still firmly hold that my statement stands correct. The Donkey Kong champs and their knowness(not an actual word) far outweighs the interest by people playing Donkey Kong.
On a side note, this is not limited to Donkey Kong. I think this is true of even minor arcade champs like myself. For instance, there is a Donkey Kong 3 video of my gameplay that has over 12,000 in views. I have some serious doubts to whether 12,000 people have even played DK3 in the past six years. But despite that you will have that many willing to watch this video.
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Number of views of a video does not necessarily equate to number of people, nor does it make George Riley more famous than DK3. I don't think any other gaming film has had more exposure than KoK, and I would say that film only made Walter, Billy, and Steve "famous" (not <Tim> or Hank or anyone else, sadly). Go to an arcade or talk about Donkey Kong with people of all ages, and they at least know of the character and maybe the arcade game. Put a picture of DK arcade gameplay and a picture of Billy Mitchell out there and see how many can identify each (q-ratings style). I think you'll find DK is more recognizable overall, which leads me to believe it's bigger than any individual.
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Number of views of a video does not necessarily equate to number of people, nor does it make George Riley more famous than DK3. I don't think any other gaming film has had more exposure than KoK, and I would say that film only made Walter, Billy, and Steve "famous" (not <Tim> or Hank or anyone else, sadly). Go to an arcade or talk about Donkey Kong with people of all ages, and they at least know of the character and maybe the arcade game. Put a picture of DK arcade gameplay and a picture of Billy Mitchell out there and see how many can identify each (q-ratings style). I think you'll find DK is more recognizable overall, which leads me to believe it's bigger than any individual.
OK, good point. But is CaptainJivePants bigger than Mustache Boy? Inquiring minds want to know!
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hmm Yes the players are making Donkey Kong more of a known game in this day and age .
Now they should do a year in the life of a Donkey Kong Player movie .. Cover all the different players as they get ready for event though out the year ..
With Donkey Kong it's not just about the Kong Off .. Even though that is the Super Bowl of Donkey Kong Events ..
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Wat da , who is this take that pic down at once fttt lit
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Wat da , who is this take that pic down at once fttt lit
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what is the problem with it Allen? <Allen>
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My guess is that Dwayne Richards posted the picture.
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I gotta believe that players are only "famous" within their own communities they live. Of course arcade fans will recognize some players, but outside of that, there is no stardom.
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i find the whole topic insane. i would rather have friends then fans who needs fame and actually i wouldn't have responded but my friend Foster put up the the big head who can eclipse the sun. The culture we live in has made up fictional ways of relating to others which destroys friendship. The other in dialogue is what makes for your uniqueness to be distinct. For everyone to put someone's uniqueness on a pedestal and say that is the focus of our attention and no one else is crazy. Uniqueness is self evident. Making people envious doesn't take away from the mystery or make you any friends.
So to want to be bigger then the community is nonsense or to think you are bigger then the community is nonsense. dwayne
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i find the whole topic insane. i would rather have friends then fans who needs fame and actually i wouldn't have responded but my friend Foster put up the the big head who can eclipse the sun. The culture we live in has made up fictional ways of relating to others which destroys friendship. The other in dialogue is what makes for your uniqueness to be distinct. For everyone to put someone's uniqueness on a pedestal and say that is the focus of our attention and no one else is crazy. Uniqueness is self evident. Making people envious doesn't take away from the mystery or make you any friends.
So to want to be bigger then the community is nonsense or to think you are bigger then the community is nonsense. dwayne
Yeah, but you are bigger than Nibbler. I mean really who has started playing Nibbler since that film was released despite being seen by 10's of thousands of people.
Also for someone who likes friends you sure have burned a lot of bridges with friends along the way.
As far as what I really want. No, the number one thing I want is not fame, and no it's not friends. What I really want in this community is to see it grow. I want to see this community be much, much, much larger than it is. I want to see these games put to their limits. In order for that to happen, there needs to be growth.
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i find the whole topic insane. i would rather have friends then fans who needs fame and actually i wouldn't have responded but my friend Foster put up the the big head who can eclipse the sun. The culture we live in has made up fictional ways of relating to others which destroys friendship. The other in dialogue is what makes for your uniqueness to be distinct. For everyone to put someone's uniqueness on a pedestal and say that is the focus of our attention and no one else is crazy. Uniqueness is self evident. Making people envious doesn't take away from the mystery or make you any friends.
So to want to be bigger then the community is nonsense or to think you are bigger then the community is nonsense. dwayne
I think that is a well-thought and eloquently-put point.
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i find the whole topic insane.
Hahaha, that's a more concise reply than I could have thunk of.
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Edit: never mind. Anything I say from this point on will add fuel to the fire. OK, you guys win. I will go play some games or something.
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People play arcade games because they enjoy them (hopefully). There's no money/fame in this hobby, and if you play arcade games because you think you'll get rich/famous, you should rethink your priorities.