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Re: DK3 record harder to beat than the Galaga record?
« Reply #15 on: October 27, 2017, 05:57:39 pm »
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Re: DK3 record harder to beat than the Galaga record?
« Reply #16 on: October 28, 2017, 05:23:19 pm »
I am waiting to hear a consensus on which record is harder to beat.
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Re: DK3 record harder to beat than the Galaga record?
« Reply #17 on: October 28, 2017, 05:39:10 pm »
I am waiting to hear a consensus on which record is harder to beat.

I think it's pretty clear.
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Re: DK3 record harder to beat than the Galaga record?
« Reply #18 on: October 28, 2017, 07:29:10 pm »
I am waiting to hear a consensus on which record is harder to beat.

I think it's pretty clear.
Actually, no it's not.  Poking fun at someone doesn't count as an argument whatsoever.
If this was a college debate I would win by default because the other side refused to bring any evidence to the table.
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Re: DK3 record harder to beat than the Galaga record?
« Reply #19 on: October 28, 2017, 09:16:16 pm »
I am waiting to hear a consensus on which record is harder to beat.

I think it's pretty clear.
Actually, no it's not.  Poking fun at someone doesn't count as an argument whatsoever.
If this was a college debate I would win by default because the other side refused to bring any evidence to the table.

1) This isn't a college debate. And you brought opposition research to the table anyway.
2) I've added a poll to settle the issue once and for all.
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Re: DK3 record harder to beat than the Galaga record?
« Reply #20 on: October 28, 2017, 09:44:27 pm »
Poll  <Kuh>

I voted no, but its pretty close

-You get double the amount of lives in DK3
-Galaga is a wayyyy more popular/known game so you'd expect there to be a number of scores close to the record (although how many were actually done we'll never know)
-If it was easier to take down I think it would have been already. There's been no reports of any scores above 8m since the 80s. MAME WR is only 6.8m by the same person.
-DK3 appears harder to beat because you're so far in front of everyone else. Its just been played less and who other than yourself has played it enough to even try for the record. Most people get 1m and move on.
-If you miss in DK3 you are generally able to get out of it. Missing in Galaga a lot of the time is death.

Counter-arguments:

-You can take infinite breaks on stage 0 on galaga
-Bonus stages give a welcome break and are easy points for little effort

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Re: DK3 record harder to beat than the Galaga record?
« Reply #21 on: October 29, 2017, 02:44:22 am »
I am gonna have to vote no, just based on what's true for me personally.

I will never sniff being any closer than 20% of the way to either of these records, but of the two, I enjoy playing DK3 more, and if I HAD to pursue one, that's definitely the one I'd go for.

While DK3 can rile me up under some circumstances, I can also zone into it and float for long periods and feel pretty good.

With Galaga, there is not a moment where I don't feel constantly and insanely stressed over the threat of losing my doubled ship, or, if it's already gone, the naked, hungry desperation to get it back. I never feel at ease or "cruising", and it's gotten to the point where the explosion sound has an actual physical effect on my nervous system. This game can find and pull out rage that I didn't know I had.

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Re: DK3 record harder to beat than the Galaga record?
« Reply #22 on: October 29, 2017, 03:12:21 am »
See first 40 sec of this video, which, for me, is Galaga in microcosm: https://go.twitch.tv/videos/41724634

One of my favorite clips of all time. Thanks for that

Edit: this one is also good - https://www.twitch.tv/videos/43874378
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Re: DK3 record harder to beat than the Galaga record?
« Reply #23 on: October 29, 2017, 04:57:19 am »
Alright, I finally got some arguments for Galaga!  Also one, I forgot about.  Getting that second man is very difficult once you lose one of your two men.  You can easily lose another man with single ship.
So yeah, the game is easy when you have two ships, and are doing what you're supposed to.  But if you screw up, the game becomes insanely hard at times.
So I am going to do something that'll surprise people.  Yes, Galaga is the harder record to break.
For me, I have no problem saying that.  It's a gold star record.  As far as golden age shooter games it's in the top two of shooter games.  Perhaps Galaxian gives Galaga a run for it's money.  Two million on Galaxian Arcade/MAME is crazy hard.
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Re: DK3 record harder to beat than the Galaga record?
« Reply #24 on: October 29, 2017, 06:01:24 am »
They are both great records on their own merit and are hard to fully compare

Even though the Galaga record is harder to break, it is much more likely to happen.
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Re: DK3 record harder to beat than the Galaga record?
« Reply #25 on: December 16, 2017, 07:41:04 pm »

See first 40 sec of this video, which, for me, is Galaga in microcosm: https://go.twitch.tv/videos/41724634

LOL. I totally see your point.  :D
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Re: DK3 record harder to beat than the Galaga record?
« Reply #26 on: December 16, 2017, 07:58:30 pm »
Perhaps Galaxian gives Galaga a run for it's money.  Two million on Galaxian Arcade/MAME is crazy hard.

Again, I totally agree. The average Galaga player can't get 2M using dual ships and an additional 14 men in their arsenal, let alone 2M on Galaxian using nothing but a pea shooter that fires bullets at half the speed with enemies swooping down on you from one side of the screen to the other. Not a very forgiving game by far. Great thread btw George.  :D
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