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DK3 - World Records and Badges
« on: May 17, 2024, 09:55:26 pm »
After many discussions with ersatz for his great write-up on the history of DKF badges and teasing Estel about getting the arcade record for Difficulty 4, I've starting thinking more about how we should approach badges for DK3...and I could use some community guidance.

Right now, DK, DKJR, and CK have separate badges for the arcade WR and MAME WR, as well as separate badges for having the former WR on each platform. For DK3, my approach has been to award the current WR badge to any player who has the highest overall, cross-platform score on any of the 8 tracks (Marathon and 5 Lives for Difficulty 1, 2, 3, 4) and the former WR badge for any player who used to have the highest overall, cross-platform score on any of the 8 tracks. There has been no separation of arcade or MAME in terms of badges.

So the question is: do we want to create separate badges for arcade and MAME for current/former DK3 world record holders?
And the follow-up question: how accurately can we determine the world record progression for every track?
And the second follow-up question: do we keep the single WR badge we have or do we create new badges for every track, with slight variations for platform and current/former? I'm envisioning 8 basic badges that would be slightly differentiated for arcade vs. MAME, then grayscaled versions of those for former WRs...that's 32 badges.

To that last point, if we created track-based badges, JV would end up with 7 current WR badges. Riley would probably end up with 1342309823948 former WR badges. Is that too much clutter?

Here is a preliminary history of DK3 world records. I consider this to be unfinished and will someday be part of a larger collection of DK, DKJR, and CK WR progression charts that I'll share. But it might be helpful to share right now...both to determine badge eligibility and correct my errors.

So, share your thoughts please. And if anyone wants to go ahead and design some new badges...pls and thx.
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Re: DK3 - World Records and Badges
« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2024, 11:13:24 am »
I'm perfectly fine with whatever.  8)
Having said, that. An idea.  How about an undisputed badge.
Given to the person holding records in all 8 tracks.
With Justin Elliott holding the five man difficulty 4 record it's obvious that it's extremely hard to pull that off nowadays
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Re: DK3 - World Records and Badges
« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2024, 11:40:31 am »
I forgot to say that you did amazing work tracking the records of each difficulty.
Bravo!  8)
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Re: DK3 - World Records and Badges
« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2024, 12:16:20 pm »
I'm perfectly fine with whatever.  8)
Having said, that. An idea.  How about an undisputed badge.
Given to the person holding records in all 8 tracks.
With Justin Elliott holding the five man difficulty 4 record it's obvious that it's extremely hard to pull that off nowadays
How are you tracking Marp when it's broken ? No one is ever going to beat those scores there until it's fixed
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Re: DK3 - World Records and Badges
« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2024, 07:14:57 pm »
How are you tracking Marp when it's broken ? No one is ever going to beat those scores there until it's fixed

???

All of the highest DK3 scores ever are currently represented on DKF and TG. And all past TG and MARP scores can easily be determined.
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Re: DK3 - World Records and Badges
« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2024, 06:15:20 pm »
Like Riley, I'm perfectly fine with whatever folks wanna do.

Personal opinion, I don't think we need separate badges for the different difficulties, and definitely not for arcade vs. MAME. My thoughts have always been that unless there are unique controls on a cabinet that can't easily be duplicated on a computer (i.e. Star Wars, Paperboy, Mad Planets), or different game behavior between PCB and MAME, then the highest recorded, verifiable score should be considered the WR, regardless of platform. I like the way you've been tracking things to this point (with the current and former WR badges)...I do like Riley's idea of a current and former "undisputed" badge for anyone that wants to go after all the difficulties.

All that being said, I do see how badge collecting can be a fun thing to do, and along with wanting the competition, we are also here to have fun...so yeah, whatever works, have at it!

Btw, great job on compiling the history of the WRs!
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Re: DK3 - World Records and Badges
« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2024, 06:28:03 am »
I do agree with JV that we shouldn't have separate badges for arcade vs. MAME. As for the different difficulties, I would like to see badges awarded for those since each one would be considered an actual world recorded for those tracks. Badges are a fun way to reward players and promote competition. Also love the idea of an "Undisputed" badge for the top spot in all difficulties! Just my 2 cents...
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Re: DK3 - World Records and Badges
« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2024, 10:56:09 am »
I guess badges are just for our enjoyment ? Since hardly anyone comes by here anymore.
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Re: DK3 - World Records and Badges
« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2024, 02:05:26 pm »
I guess badges are just for our enjoyment ? Since hardly anyone comes by here anymore.
People still visit, they just do most of their chatting on discord.
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Re: DK3 - World Records and Badges
« Reply #9 on: May 26, 2024, 02:23:56 pm »
this site is mainly used only for a score board .
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Re: DK3 - World Records and Badges
« Reply #10 on: May 26, 2024, 02:29:00 pm »
this site is mainly used only for a score board .
Well then, if it's mainly a scoreboard, it makes sense to have badges to encourage people to submit scores.   

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Re: DK3 - World Records and Badges
« Reply #11 on: May 27, 2024, 11:43:34 am »
Pretty sure i should have badges from these Old events from 2012 to 2016
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Re: DK3 - World Records and Badges
« Reply #12 on: May 27, 2024, 01:02:53 pm »
32 badges  NotLikeThis

Way too many imo. It would completely dilute someone's badge banner and look horrible.

Former and current WR badge for sure, you just cant have them at the same time (like current/former DK WR badges). Having an undisputed champ and/or previously undisputed champ badge would be awesome.

I think less is more, though. I'd rather a minimal number of elite achievement badges than a million different ones just because we can

How about having a vote to determine the "prestige" DK3 track? Have current/former and arcade/mame badges for that one only, and a badge for having a current or former WR on any other track on any platform. Only 6 badges

Now take a drink for every time I said badge.
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Re: DK3 - World Records and Badges
« Reply #13 on: May 27, 2024, 01:40:58 pm »
I do like the sound of only 6 badges. Agree that less is more and that too many DK3 badges would be overwhelming on the banner.
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