Donkey Kong Forum
Other Classic Arcade Games => Classic Arcade Game Discussion => Topic started by: homerwannabee on January 01, 2024, 04:05:52 am
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Usually I follow along with how the Baseball Hall of Fame inducts players when it first started out. I started in the year 1936, and now am at 1944. Well, I looked at how the Hall of Fame inducted players, and it was nuts. None this year, and none the next, and then 9 players in 1946. Well I decided to divide that 9, and make it 3 players each year for the next 3 years. So, yeah, I decided to veer off just a little the next three years.
So, here are my picks.
John McCurdy: I have to admit that I am biased against basically one score players, but Donkey Kong is a different animal. The level of commitment is by far greater than any other Arcade game. Getting a record on this is like getting a record on 20 other arcade games. So, It's time I recognized McCurdy and his insane commitment he had to this game. It's an incredible score. Also, anyone else that gets the record automatically will be put in my Hall of Fame the very next year. I decided to respect the Donkey Kong record that much
Justin Elliot: I realize that a lot of what he's done has been done in just the past three years, but my oh my he's done an amazing amount of stuff in just those three years. 3rd best in Donkey Kong with a giant 1.23 million score, breaking Phil Tudose's absolutely amazing DKJr Record, Getting the Crazy Kong record, getting the RBS Hard badge in DK3, and hey, how about being the first to get the Level S achievement by getting amazing scores on all four major Kongs in a period of just 24 hours? Simply incredible. This enshrinement is well deserved.
Ben Falls: To be honest, I was really contemplating putting him in since back in 2020, but he's barely missed the cut every year until now. He really is a legend to arcade games. Where to start? He was one of the innovators of modern day Donkey Kong gameplay that transformed the game from just a top hammer and bottom hammer game. One of the very first million point scorers in Donkey Kong. Truly a pioneer of the game. But his accomplishments go beyond that. He was the second ever to get the RBS DK3 screen. Also has a 1.3 million DKJr score when 1.3 million was much harder to pull off.
He also has a simply incredible Popeye arcade score that I believe still stands to this very day. In fact he's pretty good at a lot of Nintendo Arcade games. He's also amazing at Satan's Hallow. An extremely difficult shooter game. There's also other games not listed where he's simply fantastic at. A truly great gamer that's gets a well deserved enshrinement.
My previous enshrinements
2017
Donald Hayes
Billy Mitchell*
Matt Hall
Dwayne Richard
Todd Rogers*
*Both Todd Rogers, and Billy Mitchell were kicked out of Twin Galaxies after they were put in my personal Hall of Fame.
2018
Martin Bedard
Tom Votava
John McCallister
2019
Dean Saglio
2020
Mark Kheil
Tim Sczerby
Robbie Lakeman
Wes Copeland
Phil Tudose
Andrew Barrow
Steve Wiebe
2021
Shigeru Myamoto
Eugene Jarvis:
Takshi Nishiyama:
Toru Iwatani
Tomohiro Nishikado
Ed Logg
2022
Walter Day
Jonas Neubauer
2023
Hector Rodriguez
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<Pigger> "I WAS ROBBED!"
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It's actually amazing that I was thinking "I want flyhec on this list."
Oh wait that was considered "last year's." Whoops. Still I don't think I saw his name on this but did see the previous entries.
Is the list limited to high score? Also while I agree with Jonas I am surprised that Thor Aackerlund would not be the initial pick, Harry Hong also being very notable here. Understandable that you can't add everyone, but then again there are 7 entries one year and then only 1 another year. I guess there's a sort of "theme" each year.
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George, I'm very honored you would think of me this year. And WOW, to be in a class with such legends as Serphy and Benny. BBB. BibleThump
Very cool. Thanks, dude.
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Why Wiebe? He played one game and now isn't even in the top 10 of all time high scores? Just wondering.
(Edit: No offense to Wiebe if he reads this.)
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Why Wiebe? He played one game and now isn't even in the top 10 of all time high scores? Just wondering.
(http://www.slither-gdi.net/wiebe.gif)
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Why Wiebe? He played one game and now isn't even in the top 10 of all time high scores? Just wondering.
(Edit: No offense to Wiebe if he reads this.)
He had the DKJR WR at one time.
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Ill be there soon lit wow cccccclassic YEP YEP Brian allen . <Billy>
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Why Wiebe? Because he brought in a lot of people into classic gaming. The reason I got involved with classic gaming was watching Wiebe go after a kill screen on an old G3 broadcast.
The reason why he's out of the top 10 is because of the popularity of the movie.
Also, he's a multiple Donkey Kong world record holder.
I'm not certain this forum exists if his story isn't told on the big screen
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Just an inquiry.
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I am hearing quite the Protest for me not getting into the Hall Of Fame. It's Your thing you keep doing it . I think really active players should not go into the hall of fame so early .
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Don't worry. I do not agree with all the members who are in the Baseball Hall of Fame, but still have visited Cooperstown. :-)
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I am hearing quite the Protest for me not getting into the Hall Of Fame. It's Your thing you keep doing it . I think really active players should not go into the hall of fame so early .
Brian, what exactly do you believe is your top reasons for being selected? By all means, make a case. I'm all ears. You have some qualifications.
1. One of the early rank d players
2. You've had records, and still have some
3. Great rivalry with Allen Staal
There's nothing that stands out. You're a good player overall, but for the most part I have either amazing players or players with a major historical achievement. Like being a record holder in Donkey Kong.
Outside of the Kongs there's not many very good scores on the all time greats. I know you have a decent 1942 score, and I think you have a good Galaxian score, but you'd need about 48 more very good scores like that.
Also, it's OK to not be great, or even good at the great games, but I expect a person then to do very good overall in tournaments. Like Yolympics or the crap tournament.
You have none of that
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I had a terrible 2008, then from 2009-2012 I took PEDs. <peepoTinfoil>
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I am hearing quite the Protest for me not getting into the Hall Of Fame. It's Your thing you keep doing it . I think really active players should not go into the hall of fame so early .
The World Golf Hall of Fame allows for active players, some pretty young. I suppose some people have gotten stars on The Hollywood Walk of Fame. Not sure about that though.
As a side note, Tim Sczerby definitely deserves to be on the list. Good choice.
I am uncertain if Pat Laffaye has any other scores, but he has been very skilled at Frogger and Paperboy.
I know very little of the politics of TG and such, and know very little of these guys. I'm still newer to the arcade scene, and don't mean to step on any toes, if inadvertently these guys are jerks or something.
BTW, can we make a "Historical" list so that Billy can be on it? maybe we could add Steve Sanders' 3,000,000+ score onto it? While we're at it, I actually scored several billion back in '05 on DK. <stirpot> <stirpot> <Sanders> <Sanders> <Billy> <Billy>
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I had a terrible 2008, then from 2009-2012 I took PEDs. <peepoTinfoil>
Also known as beer. Kappa
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I am hearing quite the Protest for me not getting into the Hall Of Fame. It's Your thing you keep doing it . I think really active players should not go into the hall of fame so early .
Brian, what exactly do you believe is your top reasons for being selected? By all means, make a case. I'm all ears. You have some qualifications.
1. One of the early rank d players
2. You've had records, and still have some
3. Great rivalry with Allen Staal
There's nothing that stands out. You're a good player overall, but for the most part I have either amazing players or players with a major historical achievement. Like being a record holder in Donkey Kong.
Outside of the Kongs there's not many very good scores on the all time greats. I know you have a decent 1942 score, and I think you have a good Galaxian score, but you'd need about 48 more very good scores like that.
Also, it's OK to not be great, or even good at the great games, but I expect a person then to do very good overall in tournaments. Like Yolympics or the crap tournament.
You have none of that
then i completely disagree with you getting in... LOL Nothing standing out really.. that's sad coming from you.
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I am hearing quite the Protest for me not getting into the Hall Of Fame. It's Your thing you keep doing it . I think really active players should not go into the hall of fame so early .
Brian, what exactly do you believe is your top reasons for being selected? By all means, make a case. I'm all ears. You have some qualifications.
1. One of the early rank d players
2. You've had records, and still have some
3. Great rivalry with Allen Staal
There's nothing that stands out. You're a good player overall, but for the most part I have either amazing players or players with a major historical achievement. Like being a record holder in Donkey Kong.
Outside of the Kongs there's not many very good scores on the all time greats. I know you have a decent 1942 score, and I think you have a good Galaxian score, but you'd need about 48 more very good scores like that.
Also, it's OK to not be great, or even good at the great games, but I expect a person then to do very good overall in tournaments. Like Yolympics or the crap tournament.
You have none of that
then i completely disagree with you getting in... LOL Nothing standing out really.. that's sad coming from you.
Make your case. Talk about your scores on games I haven't played. Go ahead. Make an argument why you should be inducted.
What am I missing?
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OK, I did a deep dive on MARP. You have scores I respect
Juno First 999k very good job. I think my best is 600k or something and I love this game
King & Balloon 68k a decent score
Dark Tower 2nd place 15 million. A very good score
Intrepid 169k former record. You helped popularize the game
Mad Alien 41k
Mario Bros 148k. Not a great score, but better than I can do. Very decent score
Pooyan 356k. Yeah, great job with this score. Another game I really like where you do better than me
Red UFO looks like you're 2nd now 68k is still a good score
Sky Skipper 48k. I have a better score, but still decent
Space Firebird 62k 2bd definitely one of your better scores. I got 14k and put time on it
Tutankham decent 26k
Zupapa 4th out of 16 scores. Very decent
1942-I think your score is 589k better than my 400k something score. I put a lot of time on this one
You definitely liked playing clones. I didn't really count any of those.
So, overall you're a good gamer, but you miss the cut.
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<popcorn>
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Red UFO looks like you're 2nd now 68k is still a good score looks like the person that beaten my score did not follow the Special rules set for that game.
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Anyways Good Luck I do not care anymore.
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wht da
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What am I, chopped liver?!?!
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What am I, chopped liver?!?!
Dirt Digger
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I`m still confused
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Red UFO looks like you're 2nd now 68k is still a good score looks like the person that beaten my score did not follow the Special rules set for that game.
The special rules state "Version to use Mame 139 or later", and "that person" used WolfMAME version 230. Not sure why you always try to knock down the achievements of others dude, but it ain't a good look.
If you're going to toot your own horn about how good you are, don't get salty about being in 2nd place, get better.
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The special rules state "Version to use Mame 139 or later", and "that person" used WolfMAME version 230.
I responded thusly in the Regulation Play forum at MARP.
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I googled or later just to make sure I was correct. It said
"'Later' means a period of time which is in the future."
This is not a past tense thing Brian. So, I hate to break it to you, it is you who is in violation of the rules.
Here's a link to a "Guts Theme" MEME to comfort you.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/3LyG5CKI0AE
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Add me griley, dont make me post my resume.
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Add me griley, dont make me post my resume.
I am going to take this seriously
Don't worry, I did a quick search of your scores. I looked at Twin Galaxies, and Battle of The Arcades.
Scores that stood out to me.
You're a former Dig Dug World Champion. This is your crown jewel. It's an amazing score. Having said that, it's one great score. There's a lot of gamers with one great score.
Your Robotron 663,400 scores is really, really, really good. Like top level good
Scores that are very good scores
Mappy 415,120 is a very good score
I think your Track & Field score of 80,920 is also a very good score
Scores that are good scores.
Your Frogger score of 40,600 is a good score
Your Zaxxon score of 101,450 is a good score
Your Galaga score of 196,180 is a good score
I looked at your placing. You got 7th place, but the field was only 24 people who qualified. Still, it's a top 10 placing
Overall, I think your two great scores are very respectable. Especially the Dig Dug score.
Having said that, you are not quite there as a player. I feel there's are people who have a better a more extensive resume. Dig Dug is a great game, and is competitive, but it's not competitive like Donkey Kong.
But, there's the other thing. You being an organizer. That's something that you are much higher on the list for. Your Battle of the Arcades has left a large footprint in the history of Arcade gaming. Arcade gaming would be more boring without this. I have tremendous respect for that.
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Makes me realize how unaccomplished I am in the CAG world, seeing all of the folks above with WR's.
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Makes me realize how unaccomplished I am in the CAG world, seeing all of the folks above with WR's.
A lot of people above have spent thousands of hours on these games. I'm not even in my own Hall of Fame and I've put thousands of hours into this. Maybe as much as 4,000 hours. Maybe more.
If you're willing to put in the time, you can do some really cool things
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George , you are so off on this one ,in regards to Ken It's laughable . First let's start with the one score comment . . You have several guys on your list that only had one or two good scores. Those scores have been shown to be avg now. Yes you can say they were pioneers . Like you could say Jesse Owens was track and field pioneer . Doesn't mean there haven't been 500 guys since that are all faster and jump further. Which makes them better ! To me what Ken and Donald did back and forth on DigDug and pushing it to a near impossible score . IMO should have been the subject of a movie . Not billy and Steve . Ken also has streamed live 100 million plus Robotron . Only reason he didn't beat Gomez to 100 million is he took time to deal with Mappy and the switches and recordings etc after I broke the Mappy WR . And as far as his finishes at bota . I guarantee you each one he could of finished a few individual spots higher if he wasn't dealing with a score inputs . Internet and computer issues . Making sure machines were running great and all the responsibilities as host . And as organizer of the Tournament. ( With very few thank you's by the way ) anyone who has been to the Kencade and watched him play knows if he put in the time to practice he's a world class gamer . ( Former #1 on descent )
As far as what he has done for the CAG community he is a HOF and that is not up for debate. And really him being in as a player should have very little debate. Watch him play Robotron on level ten settings and tell me he doesn't have the eye hand coordination to be good to great on any game. Sometimes it's not all about accomplishments it's about what you see with your eyes . Barry Sanders never won anything and isn't even top 3 in yards anymore . But any one with two eyes knows he's the greatest.
Now if you need more accomplishments I'm sure I can come up with many more. I know Ken Has plenty of scores on games that have never been turned in. Cause he's like me. What's the point if it's not a Wr or at least close and on a dedicated cabinet ( I mean no offense on that last part just our beliefs )
Shit you haven't put me in. And I think what I did in a short period of time was pretty impressive and again anyone whose watched me play knows how good I am. But I don't need your approval anyway I know if I was still gaming there's a shit ton more records I could beat if I wanted to.
Ok , I'm just rambling now sorry. You just pushed my buttons. Lol
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Makes me realize how unaccomplished I am in the CAG world, seeing all of the folks above with WR's.
A lot of people above have spent thousands of hours on these games. I'm not even in my own Hall of Fame and I've put thousands of hours into this. Maybe as much as 4,000 hours. Maybe more.
If you're willing to put in the time, you can do some really cool things
That's encouraging. I've put many hours into other things, just gotta focus on achieving my goals in the CAG world.
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Red UFO looks like you're 2nd now 68k is still a good score looks like the person that beaten my score did not follow the Special rules set for that game.
The special rules state "Version to use Mame 139 or later", and "that person" used WolfMAME version 230. Not sure why you always try to knock down the achievements of others dude, but it ain't a good look.
If you're going to toot your own horn about how good you are, don't get salty about being in 2nd place, get better.
sorry i miss read it.. Great scrore
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George , you are so off on this one ,in regards to Ken It's laughable . First let's start with the one score comment . . You have several guys on your list that only had one or two good scores. Those scores have been shown to be avg now. Yes you can say they were pioneers . Like you could say Jesse Owens was track and field pioneer . Doesn't mean there haven't been 500 guys since that are all faster and jump further. Which makes them better ! To me what Ken and Donald did back and forth on DigDug and pushing it to a near impossible score . IMO should have been the subject of a movie . Not billy and Steve . Ken also has streamed live 100 million plus Robotron . Only reason he didn't beat Gomez to 100 million is he took time to deal with Mappy and the switches and recordings etc after I broke the Mappy WR . And as far as his finishes at bota . I guarantee you each one he could of finished a few individual spots higher if he wasn't dealing with a score inputs . Internet and computer issues . Making sure machines were running great and all the responsibilities as host . And as organizer of the Tournament. ( With very few thank you's by the way ) anyone who has been to the Kencade and watched him play knows if he put in the time to practice he's a world class gamer . ( Former #1 on descent )
As far as what he has done for the CAG community he is a HOF and that is not up for debate. And really him being in as a player should have very little debate. Watch him play Robotron on level ten settings and tell me he doesn't have the eye hand coordination to be good to great on any game. Sometimes it's not all about accomplishments it's about what you see with your eyes . Barry Sanders never won anything and isn't even top 3 in yards anymore . But any one with two eyes knows he's the greatest.
Now if you need more accomplishments I'm sure I can come up with many more. I know Ken Has plenty of scores on games that have never been turned in. Cause he's like me. What's the point if it's not a Wr or at least close and on a dedicated cabinet ( I mean no offense on that last part just our beliefs )
Shit you haven't put me in. And I think what I did in a short period of time was pretty impressive and again anyone whose watched me play knows how good I am. But I don't need your approval anyway I know if I was still gaming there's a shit ton more records I could beat if I wanted to.
Ok , I'm just rambling now sorry. You just pushed my buttons. Lol
I agree Me and Ken have not had the greatest past.. What he has done for Classic gaming around here should stand for it's self. Ken is a Machine and he knows his stuff. Thank you for everything Ken
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Add me griley, dont make me post my resume.
I am going to take this seriously
Don't worry, I did a quick search of your scores. I looked at Twin Galaxies, and Battle of The Arcades.
Scores that stood out to me.
You're a former Dig Dug World Champion. This is your crown jewel. It's an amazing score. Having said that, it's one great score. There's a lot of gamers with one great score.
Your Robotron 663,400 scores is really, really, really good. Like top level good
Scores that are very good scores
Mappy 415,120 is a very good score
I think your Track & Field score of 80,920 is also a very good score
Scores that are good scores.
Your Frogger score of 40,600 is a good score
Your Zaxxon score of 101,450 is a good score
Your Galaga score of 196,180 is a good score
I looked at your placing. You got 7th place, but the field was only 24 people who qualified. Still, it's a top 10 placing
Overall, I think your two great scores are very respectable. Especially the Dig Dug score.
Having said that, you are not quite there as a player. I feel there's are people who have a better a more extensive resume. Dig Dug is a great game, and is competitive, but it's not competitive like Donkey Kong.
But, there's the other thing. You being an organizer. That's something that you are much higher on the list for. Your Battle of the Arcades has left a large footprint in the history of Arcade gaming. Arcade gaming would be more boring without this. I have tremendous respect for that.
FailFish
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I'll say this. If I combined your achievements with your game playing and organizing, you'd already be in. So would Richie though
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Had some thoughts,
There are some, obviously, who have not had any world record in their accomplishments, yet are inducted. Shigeru Miyamoto comes to mind. But is there anyone who has accomplished great strides, but always fell short of any records? For example, Charles Barclay of the National Basketball Assoc. is regarded as the best player to never win a championship. I know Bill Carlton was subject of a doucumentary and never took first in the field of Missile Command, the game focused on in the film.
Also, if the HOF was like the Rock 'N Roll HOF, would people be inducted just for the novelty of them already being famous and being remotely attached to the subject? Seemingly The Jackson Five along with Michael Jackson, Madonna, The N.W.A, Tupac Shakur, The Notorious B.I.G, and others were never "Rock 'N Rollers." This leads into the question; should Marshall Mathers, AKA Eminem, be inducted since he is already a world famous musician, and once posted a score onto his social media of 465,800 in Donkey Kong? There are many active DK gamers on streams and YouTube, who's PB is far lower. Notice I said active, not acclaimed. This would draw similar controversy to what the RNR HOF experienced, considering as there are already people who are angry that they have not been added, and it would fan the flames of their frustration.
Am I wrong for voting in the newly announced voter-polled inductee in favor of Marshall Mathers?? <gasp>
<stirpot>
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What Matt is talking about is I'm going to open up a slot of the Hall of Fame for the Community to decide starting in November.
As far as Marshall Matters goes, I wouldn't put him in as a player or organizer.
The only realistic slot that's not completely absurd would be in the category of promoter. Not player or organizer, or programmer, but promoter
And that would be for the following
1. Mentioning that he's "good" at Donkey Kong in a rap song
2. Getting two Donkey Kong machines autographed by Steve Wiebe and mentioning it in an interview
3. Rapping a song in front of a Donkey Kong and Donkey Kong Jr machine
4. Taking a picture of his Donkey Kong score and sharing it on the Internet.
So, if Marshall Matters/Eminem was for some reason the top choice, I'd put him in as promoter. Everything else would be absurd
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Take me out and pit Mike in. And let Ken fight with Richie for his spot. ROFL
Fly
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Take me out and pit Mike in. And let Ken fight with Richie for his spot. ROFL
Fly
Richie is fully qualified with a solid resume of CAG and none CAG HOF level accomplishments.
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Red UFO looks like you're 2nd now 68k is still a good score looks like the person that beaten my score did not follow the Special rules set for that game.
The special rules state "Version to use Mame 139 or later", and "that person" used WolfMAME version 230. Not sure why you always try to knock down the achievements of others dude, but it ain't a good look.
If you're going to toot your own horn about how good you are, don't get salty about being in 2nd place, get better.
I find this quite disrespectful I hed the World Record on this game 9 plus years . Player beats my score out of the blue and tells me to get better. Defend the Terra Attack on the Red UFO
(redufo) simpsons99 (@) 09 Feb 15
04:02:50 68,220 (edit)
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Makes me realize how unaccomplished I am in the CAG world, seeing all of the folks above with WR's.
I know how you feel
I used to be a pretty serious tennis player once upon a time. I have compared my participation in these arcade game forums to being on some tennis forum where some of the other posters are John McEnroe, Jimmy Connors, and Pete Sampras. <confused>
It is what it is.
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Am I missing something? This is a HOF created and curated by one man. Is that not the case? And while I like and respect George, I do not put a ton of stock into things like this. Certainly not enough to be upset over whether or not someone makes the cut.
Let's remember that opinions are like assholes and call it a day.
Good luck to everyone!!
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I'm mostly just messin with Riley for clicks.
Am I missing something? This is a HOF created and curated by one man. Is that not the case? And while I like and respect George, I do not put a ton of stock into things like this. Certainly not enough to be upset over whether or not someone makes the cut.
Let's remember that opinions are like assholes and call it a day.
Good luck to everyone!!
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I'm mostly just messin with Riley for clicks.
Sucess!! ;D
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Or "success" if spelling is your thing... <mad>
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<peepoTinfoil>
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I'm mostly just messin with Riley for clicks.
Makes me feel a little less guilty.
Alexa, remind me. Who holds the record on Donkey Kong 3?
http://www.slither-gdi.net/alexa.mp3
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griley is not a guy who was lucky enough to be the best at DK3... DK3 was lucky to get his attention.
Somewhere I saw someone joking about his hair, and I have to say, its FABULOUS!
If <Billy> can get that fangirl who made a play about him, can George have me? He is in my genera
side note---- I saw the play and it was really fun.
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Geez. Accidentally posted without finishing.
He's one of the first guys I met in CAG, and he's as cool as a cucumber. 8)
Plus you can find his merch everywhere. They've got so many paintings of him at the Vatican.
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Having said that, you are not quite there as a player. I feel there's are people who have a better a more extensive resume. Dig Dug is a great game, and is competitive, but it's not competitive like Donkey Kong.
I'd say 5.2+ Million on DigDug is on par with 1.2 DK. Then what?
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2017
***Billy Mitchell***
2019
***Dean Saglio***
2020
***Mark Kheil***
***Tim Sczerby***
***Robbie Lakeman***
***Wes Copeland***
***Steve Wiebe***
2021
***Shigeru Myamoto***
***Eugene Jarvis***
2022
***Walter Day***
***Jonas Neubauer***
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Once I realized it was not a Real HOF I did not care anymore.
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Once I realized it was not a Real HOF I did not care anymore.
It's as real as anything.
FWIW Brian, you'd be in my HOF. George too.
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Once I realized it was not a Real HOF I did not care anymore.
It's as real as anything.
FWIW Brian, you'd be in my HOF. George too.
thanks means a lot to me seeing that from you
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What does Rafael Malaquias (INNUENDO) need to do to get recognition? Long career, always in the hunt. GnG savant.