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Donkey Kong Wildcard Tournament Rematch #2
This is the second installment of the Donkey Kong Wildcard Tournament Rematch, brought to you by Eric Tessler and John Salter.
Date: March 16, 2013
Time: 12:00 AM-11:59 PM pacific time (24 hours)
Entry Fee: FREE!
Prizes
- $250 for the 1st place submitted validated score
- $100 for the 2nd place submitted validated score
- $50 for the 3rd place submitted validated score
Bounties
- $100 for the first person to break 1 million points (Daniel Desjardins is paying this bounty...thanks Daniel !!!)
- $50 for the first person to beat Ross Benziger’s DK wildcard rematch #1 score of 976,000
- $50 for the first person to reach a kill screen
- $50 for the person who gets the highest score on the first barrel board screen (1-1), w/o dying (on first man)
- $50 for the person where their last jump man lasts the longest in terms of number of boards
The current rankings for the contest will be posted on the Donkey Kong Forum (http://www.donkeykongforum.net/ (http://www.donkeykongforum.net/)). The rankings will be updated periodically throughout the duration of the contest.
IMPORTANT: The rules for the contest are laid out below. Please read through all of the rules carefully. Due to the anticipated large number of score submissions, John and Eric have the right to immediately reject any score submission if these rules are not followed as outlined below. ***NO EXCEPTIONS***
Registration
- Any contestant may register for this contest as long as they are not officially ranked among the top 12 DK players in the world as governed by the DK scoreboard at Twin Galaxies. This rule applies at all times up until the start time of the contest. If a registered contestant becomes officially ranked in the top 12 prior to the start time of the contest, they will be unregistered from the contest and will not be allowed to participate.
- All contestants will be required to register in order to compete in this Donkey Kong competition. In order to register, simply email the following information to dkwildcardrematch@gmail.com :
* full name
* twitch stream URL
* Please specify “WildCard Rematch Entry†in the subject line of the email
- All registrations must be received prior to the start time of the competition.
Stream Setup
- All contestants are required to stream their games on twitch.tv. (NO EXEPTIONS FOR ANY REASON).
- Contestants are solely responsible for setting up their stream. Eric Tessler and John Salter will not be involved in any contestant’s stream setup for any reason.
- Contestants may enlist the help of anyone except Eric Tessler and John Salter to setup their stream.
- Contestant’s stream quality must be sharp enough to read the level and score at a glance (as well as the rest of the game play). If there is ANY question of score and level due to bad quality stream, that submission will be rejected, instantly, with no exceptions. We suggest that you test your streams and check them from time to time to make sure they are working correctly.
- Streams which are partial, glitchy, edited or manipulated in any way will be rejected.
- Streams must be available for review on the contestants registered twitch.tv channel. If for ANY reason the stream is not available for review on the contestant’s registered twitch.tv channel, the submission will be rejected. NO EXCEPTIONS.
Game Submissions
- Contestant is solely responsible for submitting their own scores.
- DK arcade or DK MAME (US set 1) can both be used for score submissions (must use TG settings of 3 lives and a bonus life at 7000 points).
- Score submissions can be for any non-zero score.
- At the start of EACH new stream, contestant must state their full name (you no longer have to state your name before every single game).
- The entire game must be played only by the registered contestant who is identified at the beginning of the game.
- Scores can only be submitted via email to dkwildcardrematch@gmail.com.
- Score submissions must contain “Score Submission†in the subject line. The body of the email MUST contain:
* First and last name
* Bounty being claimed (and please include calculations as needed by the bounty, such as “I completed 42 boards on my first jump manâ€)
* Final game score
* What time the stream was recorded
* URL to actual stream recording on twitch.tv
- Bounties
* Contestant is solely responsible for specifying which bounty they want to claim when they submit a score.
* A contestant can only be paid for a maximum of 1 bounty for any one contest.
* If a submitted game qualifies for more than 1 bounty, the contestant is solely responsible for specifying which bounty they are claiming and they can only claim a single bounty (and the refs will consider only the specified bounty for the score submission). For example, if I have a game where I am the first to a million points and a kill screen, I claim the million point bounty and the kill screen bounty remains open for other contestants to claim.
* If a contestant tries to claim a bounty however is not awarded that bounty for some reason (i.e., they were incorrect about the bounty or another contestant's score submission invalidates their bounty claim), the contestant may try to claim another bounty on one of their next score submissions.
* Bounties are considered in the order in which the score submissions are received.
* Please remember that the bounty system was introduced for fun and to spread around some extra money to the contestants. Any disputes over the bounties will be settled accordingly by Eric/John.
- If any player is at Eric's or John’s house on the day of the contest, they may use our DK arcade machine for the tournament and we will act as a referee (as such, they do not need to submit their score via email, but the game will still be broadcasted on twitch.tv for everyone to see).
- Eric and John will be validating all scores and reserve the right to reject any score for any reason.
- Games started before the official contest start time (no matter how close to the official contest start time) will not be eligible.
- Games started after the official contest end time (no matter how close to the official contest end time) will not be eligible.
- Last game can be started any time before the official contest end time (no matter how close to the official contest end time).
- Scores can be submitted up until 4 hours past the official contest end time.
Prize Payouts
- Prize money will be issued in the exact amount stated, ONLY to the registered contestant.
- Prize money will be sent via PayPal or sent via U.S. post in the form of a registered money order, or check ONLY to the registered contestant.
- If the contestant rejects the prize acceptance guidelines, listed above, or chooses not to accept the prize, that money will be added to the next contest purse.
Clarifications
- Kill screen: In order to qualify for a kill screen on 22-1, we must be able to see the jump man death that is caused by the kill screen itself (dying any other way will not count).
Closing Remarks
- Please remember, at the end of the day, this is for fun and to keep the community together. Anyone who does not follow the rules, cheats, etc, will be removed from the contest, and possibly banded from all future contests.
- These guidelines can be changed at any time because Eric and John are in charge and are on a total power trip.
- Get practicing and good luck to all contestants 8)
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Eric, I think you should compete this time around.
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Can I participate if I play with my feet? Pretty please :'(?
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This is awesome! I was bummed I couldn't participate in the last one, even though I was at the KO2 I just didn't bother signing up the for the wild card portion of the event. Can't wait to play some DK with you guys.
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I will compete just to see where I rank :) Good luck to everyone!!!
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Awesome Eric! Looking forward to doing it again!
I added it to the forum calender and linked your post to it.
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Any contestant may register for this contest as long as they do not have an officially validated Twin Galaxy score of 1,000,000 points or higher on Donkey Kong.
This is obviously the best rule to have (like that, every player that never scored more than 1m can participate, which is cool!). Does it mean that Estel Goffinet can participate? He only has 999,800! haha.
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Nice! I could compete under these rules too. :) But, I won't be getting back into DK seriously until April.
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Awesome, can't wait. I need to get around to streaming my own games sooner than later.
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WOOOO HOOOO
I've REALLY been looking forward to this!
I am sooooo curious to see how many people participate and what kind scores are submitted.
I think everyone was blown away at the level of competition from the first event. Freakin' Allen Staal killed his PB, Ross put on a final hour clinic and Robbie put up multiple consistent high scores.
We may have bit off more than we can chew this time, but who cares. We'll do what it takes to make this a great event.
And your damn straight Eric is playing this time around!
Only two things left to say: Yer Buddy!
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Glad we could do this again! Unfortunately it is unlikely I will be able to make it to Eric's again to participate, but I will be streaming with my high quality computer monitor setup. Yer buddy!
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I look forward to wildcard match. Should be a lot of fun
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I'm thinking we're gonna see some monster scores on this rematch. Let's see a million!
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I don'nt get why we would need to say our names before starting each game. It's our stream from our puters . It will be recorded on our puter using inps if using mame.
I can see this if more then 1 person is playing from the same machine or stream.
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I don't get why you have to constently whine and complain about things that other people work their butts off to setup for you.
If you don't like the rules don't compete.
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sound like fun ill play a few games...
8)
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I don'nt see the point of saying my name everytime on my own Channel. Not like i'm recording this on a Camcorder for TG to watch.. BTW I hope this is one of the rules i hope TG Changes .
I hate saying everytime Brian Allen from Snohomish Washington and the start time .
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I also find it extremely taxing to say a sentence aloud once every hour or so during a freeroll tournament.
But if I can get past that hurdle, somehow, during the next month, I'm in!
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Chris your a much better player than me because I know I'll have to restart more than once an hour :)
I'll be playing and proclaiming Jeff Wolfe from Calhan at the controls. I'm sure my wife will be teasing me by the end of the night. ;D
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I don'nt see the point of saying my name everytime on my own Channel. Not like i'm recording this on a Camcorder for TG to watch.. BTW I hope this is one of the rules i hope TG Changes .
I hate saying everytime Brian Allen from Snohomish Washington and the start time .
We are expecting quite a few people to be participating in this contest and there will likely be many score submissions. John and I are doing what is best to make the score review process as easy/fast as possible. This will enable us to get everything reviewed in a timely manner and will help make the contest run more smoothly. People use many different email names, stream names, etc and knowing who is who is difficult to track. During our last tournament it was limited to the wildcard players who attended the KO 2, so it was easy to track everything. However this time around we may get ~50-100 people participating...who knows what the number will be. This is why we implemented these rules, and it only takes a few seconds to put this info in an email and to state your name/etc on your stream.
So start practicing and be ready for the tournament ! Good luck to everyone !!!
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I'll do my best! Got two 500K+ games yesterday back to back so who knows maybe something good is coming up. Do have one question about this "Million Point Limit". I'm entered now does this mean if I get a million points say Saturday I cannot compete in March? I don't notice a cutoff on the "Million Points" so can you clarify and say something like "Anyone who doesn't have a million points as of 2/1/2013" or something like that. I have been starting to play for a million in between running boards and if I get extremely lucky then what? :D
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Any contestant may register for this contest as long as they do not have an officially validated Twin Galaxy score of 1,000,000 points or higher on Donkey Kong.
Well, Dan, I think you would be OK because it has to be officially validated by TG.
Which lead to this. The current known 1M pt players are:
1167 Dean Saglio
1138 Hank Chien
1135 Vincent Lemay
1107 Jeff Willms
1064 Steve Wiebe
1062 Billy Mitchell
1052 Mark Kiehl
1037 Tim Sczerby
1037 Shaun Boyd
1026 David McCrary
1019 Steve Wiltshire
1012 Kyle Goewert
1010 Benjamin Falls
1000 Scott Kessler
And I don't think Steve Wiltshire's has been officially validated yet, not sure, and Ben didn't submit his, neither did Scott Kessler or Tim Sczerby. And Billy M and Steve Wiebe, Tim S wouldn't participate anyway, so basically the out list is:
1167 Dean Saglio
1138 Hank Chien
1135 Vincent Lemay
1107 Jeff Willms
1052 Mark Kiehl
1037 Shaun Boyd
1026 David McCrary
1012 Kyle Goewert
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Eric...John... you guys are awesome. 'Nuff said.
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Ok so as long as its not "Official" from TG then were ok. Yeah I see that just wanted to make sure. If I get lucky I can just wait to submit my score ;) (Yeah right)....
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I don't have a problem with saying my name at the start of each game. In fact, since I did have a 1M+ officially verified player at my house for a while on the day of the last Rematch tournament (Shaun), we made sure to explain who was playing currently. In the end, it didn't make a difference since I had my last man bounty game before he was there, and got the first man bounty after he had left (this was on my last game of the night, and didnt end until past 2am).
If I was a shady person, and knew a top player, you could attempt to pull off having someone cheat for you...but I highly doubt anyone that could technically 'cheat' during this contest, would. The short list of people that have 1M+ verified scores clearly love the game enough to not cheat at it. That would be pretty low.
Then again, it would be pretty cool to see the look on everyone's faces if Vincent logged into Allen's twitch account and streamed a 1.1M game pretending to be Allen the whole time!
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Thanks for the feedback everyone! I have updated the registration rules with the following:
Any contestant may register for this contest as long as they do not have an officially validated Twin Galaxy score of 1,000,000 points or higher on Donkey Kong (this includes scores achieved at the Kong offs). This rule applies at all times up until the start time of the contest. If a registered contestant achieves an officially validated Twin Galaxy score of 1,000,000 points or higher prior to the start time of the contest, they will be unregistered from the contest and will not be allowed to participate.
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I was wondering how you guys were going to handle the second tourney, which would have a more "open" enrollment than just wildcards, while politely dis-inviting the best players. Reverse-Kong Off qualifier was smart.
Let's be honest, none of us want to have to play against Dean, Hank, or Vincent! Ross is fearsome, but at least there's only one of him.
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Let's be honest, none of us want to have to play against Dean, Hank, or Vincent! Ross is fearsome, but at least there's only one of him.
Chris, can you please tell me why did you list my name in third? Can you explain that to me? Would that kill you to put me in 1st place, for once (or at least in front of Hank)? Since I'm not a mod, I suggest Jeff Harrist to quickly modify Chris's message to put me in 1st of the listing.
I know you've put me to be the favorite at the Kong Off 2 to win, but that doesn't count! Kong Off 2 is the past, I'm talking about the present right now! ;).
(I was obviously kidding by the way, for those who didn't get it ;-)). But still!
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How about maybe in the future a tournament with a handicap system in place?
Obviously if they participated, all the big guns on here would start from scratch.
The rest could follow this system
PB of 0-200,000 - Start on 800,000
PB of 200,000 - 299,999 - Start on 700,000
PB of 300,000 - 399,999 - Start on 600,000
PB of 400,000 - 499,999 - Start on 500,000
PB of 500,000 - 599,999 - Start on 400,000
PB of 600,000 - 699,999 - Start on 300,000
PB of 700,000 - 799,999 - Start on 200,000
PB of 800,000 - 899,999 - Start on 100,000
PB of 900,000 - 950,000 - Start on 50,000
Rest of field from Scratch.
Obviously this is only a guideline. I just thought at some stage it would be cool if all Skill sets could compete together. It would be a great thrill for and advert for the game for beginners to be rubbing shoulders with the likes of Hank, Dean, Vincent, Jeff(s) etc. in the same tournament. It would also be cool for a fun tournament after the intensity of the proper ones.
~Julian
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I like the spirit of the idea, but there is waaaaaaaay too much to think about and debate when it comes to the handicapping. We would never all agree! Plus, any system like this could be gamed unfairly.
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Agreed Chris...a handicap system would be a cool way to potentially give sub 500k players a fighting chance at beating people that have cracked 900k, but the simple fact that if a 500k player did put up a 750k game...it would all but make it impossible for anyone else to win. People could put up 1.3M games with their handicaps, which makes it literally impossible for a 900k player to win.
A 'head to head' system would be the only idea I had for giving players with lower personal bests, to have a fighting 'chance'. Chance in quotes, because as we all know, even the best players will have games (if played all the way through) end on L4 if they get rivet/PF screwed...and wild barrels to the face early in the game.
Would be interesting to hold an online "Head to Head" bracketed tournament one time. No handicaps...just the luck of the draw...the luck of the DK game you get...and your own personal skill.
Something like this would only be possible online...becasue you'd need a lot of DK machines. You would also need cooperation from the players. They would have to play their games out by a certain time, tally the results, see who advances, setup the next round, play again...until the final 2 are left. It might even take Saturday and Sunday to complete the whole thing...but it would be cool/fun/different.
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Things are looking good so far!
We have 7 entrants so far, and 4 are non KO2 wild card players.
I have a feeling I'm not going to get much playing in on the 16th. I'll b tracking and verifying scores most of the day. That may actually be more fun than playing DK!
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I might have to throw my name into this one, Hopefully a couple of other people with PB's under 200k will join me.
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Any chance of keeping an updated list in the OP with who has registered so far? :)
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At this point I think all the posts discussing KO qualification need to be split into a new thread.
Jeff, would you be able to do that?
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At this point I think all the posts discussing KO qualification need to be split into a new thread.
Jeff, would you be able to do that?
Ok, split the KO3 qualifying discussion and moved to General.
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Robbie Lakeman Twitch.tv/Lakeman421 count me in
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Registration rules are in the first post, sir (as well as a note that they would be on a power-trip about such things!) ;D
Which is a good idea, as it will almost certainly prevent some of the problems that popped up last time...
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Jeff,
Put this wherever you think it should go. Just let me know where you put it, and make sure I have the ability to edit it.
03/16/2013 DK Wild Card Rematch registered players (in order of registering):
Ross Benziger - www.twitch.tv/vondummpenstein (http://www.twitch.tv/vondummpenstein)
Daniel Desjardins - www.twitch.tv/danman123456 (http://www.twitch.tv/danman123456)
Craig Rout Gallent - www.twitch.tv/d3scride (http://www.twitch.tv/d3scride)
Estal J. Goffinet - www.twitch.tv/jiinifukeru (http://www.twitch.tv/jiinifukeru)
Mike Groseback - www.twitch.tv/mikegmi2 (http://www.twitch.tv/mikegmi2)
Jeff Harrist - www.twitch.tv/jcharrist (http://www.twitch.tv/jcharrist)
Daryl Kiddy - www.twitch.tv/Zeoicgf (http://www.twitch.tv/Zeoicgf)
Jon McKinnell - www.twitch.tv/fast_eddie1 (http://www.twitch.tv/fast_eddie1)
Eric and I will be playing also, but no need to have us on this list.
-John
John i have signed up allready
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Ok everyone make sure to send an email to register! I'm feeling pretty good about this one! Last one was great time too!
Dan
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Brian and Robbie
I have no email from you.
Please read the rules on how to register.
All,
We will be making NO exceptions to any of the rules. We want to keep our, and the tournaments integrity.
ChrisP,
What problems did we have last time? I'm getting old and have a short memory.
Also , the "power trip" comment was our feeble attempt at a joke.
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BOUNTY UPDATE: Daniel Desjardins just added the following new bounty to this tournament:
- $100 for the first person to break 1 million points
Thanks Daniel !!!
PS: Off to Las Vegas and I am bringing my laptop to practice some DK !
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Brian and Robbie
I have no email from you.
Please read the rules on how to register.
All,
We will be making NO exceptions to any of the rules. We want to keep our, and the tournaments integrity.
ChrisP,
What problems did we have last time? I'm getting old and have a short memory.
Also , the "power trip" comment was our feeble attempt at a joke.
should have gotten a e-mail from simpsons99.
I did it the first night.
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BOUNTY UPDATE: Daniel Desjardins just added the following new bounty to this tournament:
- $100 for the first person to break 1 million points
awesome cheers Daniel!
8)
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Brian,
Did not get the email. Just checked again to make sure.
Please send again.
dkwildcardrematch@gmail.com
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Brian,
Did not get the email. Just checked again to make sure.
Please send again.
dkwildcardrematch@gmail.com
just sent it again.
Might be the Gmail thing
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What problems did we have last time? I'm getting old and have a short memory.
Off the top of my head, there was some uncertainty when it came to a few contestants and stream URLs, one video submission that was hard to find, and another was non-existent.
Not a big deal, and none were your fault, but I think your rules this time will keep that kind of stuff from happening.
Also , the "power trip" comment was our feeble attempt at a joke.
Of course! I was just joshin' as well.
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I just sent the email. Let me know if you need anything else.
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I have one concern about the integrity of this tournament, and a solution to offer.
I've found that a good rule-of-thumb to go by, in contests, is that where there's a prize, there's cheating. Or at least, the possibility of cheating.
There is a not-insignificant amount of money on the table in this tournament, some strangers and near-strangers are likely to participate, and I'd say that this calls for an extra level of security, for everyone's sake.
The dynamics of this particular tournament present a specific, and very easily exploitable, potential cheat: streaming software allows the user to play back a video file in such a way as to make it totally indistinguishable from a live performance, and a person could do this whether on an arcade machine or on MAME. (MAME makes it even easier: put a nice game together, simply run MAME to play back the INP file and voila - you win).
It's just way too easy for a player to run a pre-recorded game and add a little "live" spoken commentary (such as interaction with the chat) to make it seem as though the game is happening then and there.
So I'd like to propose a very simple workaround that would make such a cheat impossible: require the player to, at some point during the submitted game, have Jumpman "signal" the refs.
The signal can be anything - jump three times in a row, park at the top of a barrel screen for 3 seconds, wiggle back and forth on a rivet screen, whatever. Just something specific enough to be unmistakable that a player wouldn't normally do, and that won't run the risk of losing the player a life or any more than 1 or 2 timer ticks.
The key is to have the refs agree on a specific signal of their choosing and keep it a secret amongst themselves until a few hours before the tournament begins, at which point they can reveal it to the contestants.
As long as the player gives the signal at some point during his game (and gives the refs a timecode), then the refs and everyone else will have proof that all games are legit live performances and not recordings.
What does everybody think of this idea?
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I agree, Chris. I think this 'signal' would be best to do on the first elevator, as that poses the least risk to the player (if any).
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An argument could be made for waiting until later in the game, perhaps after, or just before, a "bounty trigger"? That way you'd only have to do it if you were intending to claim a prize.
I would just ask that it not be something on the initial-entry screen, as some of us will be playing on savekits with fully-loaded scoreboards! In such cases you could easily have a bounty-eligible game but no initial entry screen to signal the refs. (Even with the default scoreboard you could end up with 1,004,200 and not be able to enter your initials because of the wraparound.)
Incidentally, it should probably be made explicit in the rules that D2K or other Braze kits are allowed. For that matter, how about 60-in-1s? It would never fly with TG, but (aside from some sound effects) my experience is that 60-in-1 DK is as arcade-accurate as MAME is, which makes sense, seeing as the 60-in-1 boards run off of MAME code...
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shit, there goes my plan to score 1,167,400 :(
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I would be in favor of having to perform some kind of stunt and asked Eric about it in my initial contact with him before the first wildcard contest. I believe it should be on the first screen before you really get into the game. That way your not likely to forget and if you do its easy to restart. A specific wall jump or ladder path would identify it as tournament day play.
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Maybe it could be some spacial initials that must be entered after the game, or maybe they should just have to enter the special initials, then remove them, then enter their own initials. The main advantages of this approach is that it would be easier to enter special initials than to do something in the actual gameplay, and also there are many more possible secret initials than there are possible signals on 1-1 that don't create risk.
One problem with this approach are that a player could get just over 1m so they wouldn't be able to enter their initials. In this situation maybe they could just be required to start a new game and end it at like 5k or so then enter the special initials on that game.
I guess the biggest problem with this would be situations where someone is playing on a version of dk that keeps scores permanently, or the scenario where a person has already been playing for a while and has filled the scoreboard with fairly high scores, so that it won't be easy to enter any kind of initials after a 1m game.
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Theres ways of telling if a game is Pre recorded or not ... Most players have there scores listed on TG or Marp or somekind of score data base.. Clearly look to see if any of the same scores are listed by that player and when it happened.
If the person quickly plays a game and submits a score and stops streaming and leaves the contest . Most players do not get a great game right out of the shoot!
It's bad enough we have to say our name each time we start a game.. Now theres a guess on if the game is reallly played or not.
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I would be in favor of having to perform some kind of stunt
My suggestion would be for everyone to execute a 3x100 off the same barrel on the same platform on the top hammer platform near Kong's broken ladder. Like that, we will be sure that no one will cheat. I think this is the only good idea.
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Jeff, I think you skipped over a post or two... ;)
However, good to see that several of us are on the same page with the initial entry problem.
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Theres ways of telling if a game is Pre recorded or not ... Most players have there scores listed on TG or Marp or somekind of score data base.. Clearly look to see if any of the same scores are listed by that player and when it happened.
If the person quickly plays a game and submits a score and stops streaming and leaves the contest . Most players do not get a great game right out of the shoot!
It's bad enough we have to say our name each time we start a game.. Now theres a guess on if the game is reallly played or not.
I'll give you the perfect example Brian: the night before last, I had my second-best game ever and got 890K and a kill screen. I was recording the whole time. That game might have been good for 2nd or 3rd place, maybe even 1st, plus first kill screen, not to mention the potential for the "last man" bounty since I ran my last guy for 47 screens.
If I were the unscrupulous type and wanted some easy cash, knowing that this tourney was coming up in a couple of weeks, I could have just kept silent about the game until the night of the tournament and then "rolled the tape."
In fact, having that game on Thursday is the exact reason this concern came to me at all. The "playback" scenario was the first thing to flash through my mind. Not as something I was considering doing, but as a threat. I would never do that, but I can't say that nobody else would.
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pre recorded inp scores i could see this happening with.. But they would clearly need the game showing before they started broadcasting. They would get caught loading the recorded inp live on there channel .
Arcade Game videos you can tell what is live and what is'nt
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Brian is right, as long as there is volume, fake arcade scores will be super easy to spot. To a certain degree, requiring that there be a mic that would pick up keystrokes, people on MAME would struggle to cheat as well.
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I'm not sure what you mean. Maybe I'm missing something.
Assuming that the recording of the original performance included sound, you'd still be able hear the game sounds and control panel or keyboard, from the original recording. You could then seamlessly add a mic to the stream and add whatever live "vocals" you wanted. A viewer would see and hear the game and the controls, and you talking with the chat about the score somebody got 20 minutes ago or whatever, and would just assume that you were talking while playing.
As long as your face weren't part of the shot, no chicanery would be apparent.
The only time suspicion would arise is if there were vocals but NO game/CP sound (ie, playback of a no-sound recording, or accidentally muting the system sound in XSplit). Because then the question would be "how can we hear this guy talking, but not his joystick knocking around?" No problem there if the joystick-knocking is in the recording.
And loading an INP undetectably is simple. Just write a bat file and double-click it. Nobody could possibly know what your shortcut actually does, and when MAME starts in playback mode it doesn't give any indication that it's playing an INP.
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Chris, the INP doesn't record the microphone hearing the game and keystokes (meaning hearing the keys being hit by the player) and vocal reaction (unless you're talking about replaying a saved twitch session and replaying that?). I know on a keyboard you wouldn't really hear much anyway.
BUt, Brian made a good point about loading the INP. Wouldn't the stream show the person loading an INP? Most games start immediately from the INP loading up. SO if they were streaming from the beginning when they introduce their name, at what point and how are they going to load the INP?
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Here's how you could fake an INP:
- Start the stream
- Introduce yourself
- You don't have to use the WolfMAME (or whatever-MAME) GUI to load an INP. Just make a bat file containing the command "playback dkong big-game.inp" and double-click it. Even if you DID use the GUI it's often totally impossible to make out what's happening on somebody's screen. (Anybody ever tried to read anything off of Dean's?)
- As the INP plays, simulate the keystrokes. You don't have to be dead on, or anywhere close to dead-on, since the sound of the keyboard is generally pretty faint.
That method may be a moot point anyway since you don't need an INP at all. With almost a month to go until the tournament, there's plenty of time to make hundreds of attempts on local recordings, and then, on the day of the tournament, stream your best and add a live mic.
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nope the stream starts when the broadcasters starts it.. Now if the person loaded the inp starting the broadcast and paused it and started the stream.. I can see this happening.. But that would be really shaddy... If someone posted a score within the first hour or so.. You know it takes 2 or 3 hours to really get a great score on this game .
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A big game can happen right off the street. It usually doesn't, but it can. In fact, two of my four kill screens went exactly that way: I walked up to the machine, dropped my first quarter of the day, and two hours later I was at L22. No false starts. And I'd be pretty annoyed if I were accused of cheating just because I didn't happen to spend a half hour getting a game started. ;D
As for cloaking an INP playback, or using a stream with double-audio, maybe it would be better if, rather than talking about it, I did a demonstration to show how simple it would be? This would be easier done than said.
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I think each contestant should sing the first 32 bars of "Afternoon Delight" by the Starland Vocal Band. Either that or any Too $hort song from 1988-1995. John, can you make this a priority?
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It would be super-easy, no "INP" required. Just locally record a game with one of the screen capture programs and if you make sure you have the mic open, you will hear all the game/control/player sounds whenever you play it back. And while you play it back you could even interact with the chat live.
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As for the sign, maybe it could be multiple choice?
Eric and John can give us a list of (visual) options to choose from on Friday evening, and we can do one or more of them depending on what's comfortable/feasible for our particular setup, like: "stick your hand into the shot and make 'x' gesture, OR enter 'YAY' as your initials, OR jump a spring on L2-2."
That way everyone can pick something they'll be happy with.
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We're in complete agreement, Chris. Misrepresenting a prerecorded INP as a live session is child's play. Of course, the player would have to remember to disable the "Quit game with confirmation" option. If left checked, pressing the <Esc> key causes a "Quit the game?" popup to appear while in playback mode. For a recording in progress, the game immediately terminates without the confirmation (not that I'm trying to help anyone cheat).
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the odds of cheating are not good . I really don'nt what the freaking out is all about . I will not be doing a webcam with mine ... I will not change my Intails from BEA Becouse thats what really tells who you are.
Plus thats what Marp and TG goes by allso.
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Thanks for bringing this up guys. I'm gonna play around a bit with MAME and see if I can come up with a scenario to start the game that can eliminate the chance of cheating with INP's and whatnot.
We may end up having a crappy drawn out way to start a MAME game, but whatever is the best way to prevent cheating will be used.
Also, on page 3 of this forum is my post with the current list of players. I'll keep updating that post as players register.
- John
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Thanks for bringing this up guys. I'm gonna play around a bit with MAME and see if I can come up with a scenario to start the game that can eliminate the chance of cheating with INP's and whatnot.
We may end up having a crappy drawn out way to start a MAME game, but whatever is the best way to prevent cheating will be used.
Also, on page 3 of this forum is my post with the current list of players. I'll keep updating that post as players register.
- John
List has'nt been updated.. have you not gotten my e-mails?
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I made the registration list into a new sticky topic to make it easier to find.
https://donkeykongforum.net/index.php?topic=98.0 (https://donkeykongforum.net/index.php?topic=98.0)
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I've sent mine in 2 times now and i've yet to be added to the list.
I know of many players that wanted in from fb on vincent's post.
Heck i don'nt see Allen's posted on this .. You don'nt have a event without this guy!
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A maximum of 1 bounty may be claimed by each contestant for any one contest.
It is entirely possible that one person could fulfill the requirements for multiple bounties. As an example - someone beats Ross's score, gets over one million and killscreens in a game, that person would claim the one million bounty($100). Would that take the other two bounties off the table since no one else could be the first to complete them?
If the bounties remain intact to be claimed by another I think a top five standings for each bounty should be tracked. The contest should also have a priority setting for each bounty to avoid any hard feelings about tie breaking. For simplicity I'll go with the order they were listed:
- $100 for the first person to break 1 million points (Daniel Desjardins is paying this bounty...thanks Daniel !!!)
- $50 for the first person to beat Ross Benziger’s DK wildcard rematch #1 score of 976,000
- $50 for the first person to reach a kill screen
- $50 for the person who gets the highest score on the first barrel board screen (1-1)
- $50 for the person where their last jump man lasts the longest in terms of number of boards
So 1 million is top priority and longest last man is lowest. If the final standings are
bounty 1 bounty 2 bounty 3 bounty 4 bounty 5
player A A A D A
C B E D
E E F B
F C G
C A C
With the priority setting: A gets bounty 1, C gets b2, B get b3, d get b4 and g gets b5. Easy
Without a priority set: A could say its its worth 50 to him to make sure C gets nada and claim bounty 2 (A holds grudges and C can be a pain) or D could be put in a situation to chose which friend gets a bounty based on what bounty he claims. Lots of potential problems can be avoided with a priority set.
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I would like that clarified as well.
The nature of the bounties make it very possible for the same player to earn more than one in the same game. For example, a kill screen game is likelier than any other to have a long "last man stretch", and to be in the top 3.
If it happens to be the first kill screen of the tourney and ends up being good for third place, does the player get only the first kill screen bounty and third place money, and the last man stretch will go to the player whose last man lasted the second-longest? Or, like Jeff said, does the last man bounty simply get taken off the table?
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Brian and Colman - we got your registration emails, for some reason they ended up in our spam folder. John will update the registration page shortly.
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Thanks for the feedback everyone. John and I discussed the bounties and updated the rules accordingly. Please take a look at the updated rule post.
- Bounties
* Contestant is solely responsible for specifying which bounty they want to claim when they submit a score.
* A contestant can only be paid for a maximum of 1 bounty for any one contest.
* If a submitted game qualifies for more than 1 bounty, the contestant is solely responsible for specifying which bounty they are claiming and they can only claim a single bounty (and the refs will consider only the specified bounty for the score submission). For example, if I have a game where I am the first to a million points and a kill screen, I claim the million point bounty and the kill screen bounty remains open for other contestants to claim.
* If a contestant tries to claim a bounty however is not awarded that bounty for some reason (i.e., they were incorrect about the bounty or another contestant's score submission invalidates their bounty claim), the contestant may try to claim another bounty on one of their next score submissions.
* Bounties are considered in the order in which the score submissions are received.
* Please remember that the bounty system was introduced for fun and to spread around some extra money to the contestants. Any disputes over the bounties will be settled accordingly by Eric/John.
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Cool! You guys are doing great.
Hopefully you don't feel like we're "pecking" it to death, just trying to think about all the potential problem scenarios before they happen.
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Thanks Chris! No problem at all...we appreciate all feedback. We want to make sure the rules are understandable and that we catch all of the different scenarios to make this next contest as smooth as possible.
Thank you everyone for your feedback! Please do not hesitate to contact us with feedback/questions.
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Im in all going well wht time is it here when its starts lol
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Same as last time Allen
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Im in all going well wht time is it here when its starts lol
Allen, it will be 7pm Saturday night to 7pm Sunday night for you.
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I won't be playing, but I'll be bouncing around on various streams, catching as much "history in the making" as I can. I hope everyone crushes it, putting up at least one score well in excess of their PB.
Do it guys, it's only a cartoon ape with anger management issues.
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I understand the whole "you could cheat" attitude because frankly people do or we wouldn't have a 3 million DK score to talk about. To cheat in event like this and not play "live" is deplorable. If your are "caught" doing this the entire community SHOULD ban you and you would deserve every bit of it. There are simple ways to validate if a "Stream" is truly live versus recorded. Make the inp/wlf files available to John/Eric for review is probably a good thing. People need to be up and up and if they aren't they will ruin the entire spirit of what this is trying to accomplish!
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Haaa I will win this time lol
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Haaa I will win this time lol
Your dreaming again Allen
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All the feed back from everyone is appreciated.
I, for one, hate when rules are vague and sketchy. It's hard to be objective, when you write, read, and re-read your own material over and over. We really need the players feed back to make this a smooth enjoyable tournament.
I also hate registering, but there's not way around it. I believe the rules and registration are as "light" as we can possibly make them.
Also, as far as cheating goes, we'll have a nice start up procedure for MAME, that should eliminate any cheating. It's going to be a bit an inconvenience, but not too bad, and well worth it.
I'm hoping by the time KO3 rolls around, we'll have a nice tight wild card group, ready to put the heat on the "pros".
Dang! It's only 3 weeks away! I'm freakin' pumped!
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Might as well get in on the action too! Email sent.
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Might as well get in on the action too! Email sent.
Ben your not in the wild card group! lol
Be cool if you played though!
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Ben your not in the wild card group! lol
Be cool if you played though!
" - Any contestant may register for this contest as long as they do not have an officially validated Twin Galaxy score of 1,000,000 points or higher on Donkey Kong (this includes scores achieved at the Kong offs). This rule applies at all times up until the start time of the contest. If a registered contestant achieves an officially validated Twin Galaxy score of 1,000,000 points or higher prior to the start time of the contest, they will be unregistered from the contest and will not be allowed to participate. "
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So Bens Millon point score was never sent to TG. But they noticed it and made him a Main players in the Kong Off 2?
He must have another high score there for DK then. I don'nt know all the high scores for DK.. I used to check it but the site has been down for like 6 months.
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It's true...my 1M game was recorded and ready to submit to TG, but I chose not to send it in. Don't worry, I'm not that big of a threat at the moment.
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It's true...my 1M game was recorded and ready to submit to TG, but I chose not to send it in. Don't worry, I'm not that big of a threat at the moment.
It does seem like you are having your cake, and eating it too. You have a score that qualifies for the Kong Off, but since it is not verified you are also qualified for the million, and under challenge. Yes, it seems you are following the letter of the law, but not necceserilly the spirit of the law.
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It's true...my 1M game was recorded and ready to submit to TG, but I chose not to send it in. Don't worry, I'm not that big of a threat at the moment.
It does seem like you are having your cake, and eating it too. You have a score that qualifies for the Kong Off, but since it is not verified you are also qualified for the million, and under challenge. Yes, it seems you are following the letter of the law, but not necceserilly the spirit of the law.
Well, if they don't want me to participate, I won't. No hard feelings. I'm a hell of a lot worse than Ross (yes, I know he was a wild card player) and I don't even have the highest score of all those who are registered right now.
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First off, let me say I think you should be allowed to participate in the contest. Nothing you have done goes against the rules to be in the contest.
Having said that, you are still getting in by means of a loophole, and you know it. The fact that you have a tape of over a million points, and did not send it in is classic Billy Mitchell sandbagging.
I'll give you an analogy. Say they had a Donkey Kong Junior contest, and the only people that could be in this contest are people who have never killscreened the Arcade game. Well, in that rule I would be allowed to participate because on the Arcade version I have never killscreened Donkey Kong Junior. I have done it over 20 times on the MAME version, and yes I do have a 1.23 million score on the Arcade version as well, but that game was not a killscreen game. Yes, technically I can participate in that sort of contest, but the fact is I really shouldn't participate in a contest like that despite the fact I technically qualify for the contest.
You know I am into tennis. I enjoy it a lot. I actually have participated in what is called a B level tournament. This is for people who are recreational players. Last September I entered for the second time a tournament like this, and got crushed 6-0, 6-2. I didn't even have a chance. This despite the fact that I was playing 6 sets of tennis a week for 6 months straight. There are about 5 or 6 guys who enter this tournament who have no business entering this tournament. I am talking about former champions of this tournament who continue to play despite winning the entire B level tournament. These guys are sandbaggers, and despite the recreational term, no "recreational" player will even have a chance at winning this tournament.
So yeah, most definitely you should be allowed to play. But the tournament name is Wildcard Tournament challenge #2. This tournament was made intentionally to exclude the Kong Off competitors. The loophole is there for you to enter, but be advised that among some of the players you will be as welcome as Steve Wiebe in Billy Mitchell's restaurant.
On a last note. I could enter this tournament, but I am on the other end. For me it would be a waste of peoples time just entering my super pathetic 200k sum score.
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I did'nt want my remarks to come of Negtive on Ben playing in this event. I really don'nt mind him playing in the event. I did'nt like being told i could'nt be in the first rounds wild card events becouse i was'nt at the Kong Off 2 .
Inless something changes I can see Ben a lock for the Kong Off 3 ... Seems like the same players for the most part where in the event from the first Kong Off .
I would like to see Eric Howard playing in this event .. Yes i know he made the main field of the Kong Off 2 but he has a score of Under a Millon if i recall right.
I think he will be a wild card player next year...
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Sandbagging? You really think I withheld my score in case something like this happened to pop up? That's insane. Like I said, I don't even have the highest score in the list and nobody's bitchin' about that. There are several people who have equaled or surpassed my skill level. It's likely that I'm not even qualified for KO3 as it stands and I definitely shouldn't be.
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Sandbagging? You really think I withheld my score in case something like this happened to pop up? That's insane. Like I said, I don't even have the highest score in the list and nobody's bitchin' about that. There are several people who have equaled or surpassed my skill level. It's likely that I'm not even qualified for KO3 as it stands and I definitely shouldn't be.
Like I said, you should be allowed to play in this tournament. Also, I think Steve Szerby should be allowed to play. It's not about the tape. It's the fact you can get over 1 million, and still are entering this. I also think ANYONE verified or not that has claimed a million point score is sandbagging if they enter this tournament.
Here is my definition of sandbagging. Entering a competition that is meant for lessor skilled players in which you are overqualified for. Like my tennis analogy, there were 5 or 6 players in that tournament I felt were sandbagging because they were overqualified for that competition. But here is the thing. I think they should be allowed to be in that tournament because the tournament makes it an honor system where the player self evaluates their skill level.
So yeah, I feel you are overqualified for this along with anyone else who has gotten a million point score verified or not.
But hey, here is the brass tax in this whole thing. This is an argument over semantics. In the end I think you should be free to enter this tournament, but I wanted to make my feelings known on the issue.
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Fair enough.
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Bad News Bears 2 (9/10) Movie CLIP - Let Them Play! (1977) HD (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qq4gK8PkKNM#ws)
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I think DK has enough short-term randomness (much more than tennis or chess, for example) that for a one-day tournament, having one or two above-the-field competitors in there just makes things more interesting.
A couple other things: Estel's PB is 999,800, which of course is effectively a million. He was also invited to the KO2 but couldn't make it. For all intents and purposes, he's in exactly the same position as Ben, though he isn't technically at a million.
I would also add that several players in this contest are *capable* of a million points, they just haven't gotten it done because the right game hasn't come together yet.
Mike Grosbeck got to 923K, on pace for a million. He is obviously capable (you don't get 92.3% of the way there if you aren't!). Then you have players like Mitchell who have all the necessary skills, they just simply don't play often enough to close the deal. Getting that first million is a numbers game. You can be good enough to do it without having put in enough trials to actually do it.
And there's a big difference between players who've gotten a million or close to it on one or two occasions (Ben, Mike) and players who've done it dozens of times and/or who can sustain significantly higher pace (Dean, Hank).
I'd say that Ben is just about right in line with the top 3 or 4 players in this, all of whom are in that "close, or just over, once or twice" category.
Ross is really the only player who truly outclasses the field, but he should play too. It will be interesting to see if he can crush two of these in a row, or if Kong will be cruel that day!
The thing is, even though Ross is easily better than many players who have scored a million or more, as far as I know (and I may be wrong), Ross hasn't actually scored over a million! From what I've gathered, Ross pretty much always plays at full force/maximum risk right up to the end and doesn't care so much about actually completing the game, so he's never lived long enough to cash in the potential of games that are going at insane pace.
So, in reality, it's all a lot more complicated than the million-point cutoff. John and Eric are doing that, I think, simply because it's the simplest way of keeping the super-elite at bay.
The fact is, there's a wide range of ability in this tournament. It's unavoidable. There is a significant gap in skill between the best players, those in the middle, and those at the bottom. I don't think ensuring a level competitor field is the point here. Many will participate who have no shot at winning, and I think they're okay with that. :)
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Ben Falls is 100% without a doubt welcome with open arms into the DK Wild Card Rematch #2.
Thank you and good day.
I SAID GOOD DAY!
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Ben Falls is 100% without a doubt welcome with open arms into the DK Wild Card Rematch #2.
Thank you and good day.
I SAID GOOD DAY!
Yeah, I didn't say anything about the Organizers. Just said "Some players". Meaning a minority of players probably feel this way. Most likely "Most players", do feel the same way you do.
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I think it would be sweet if Ben participated! This is about video games and having fun competing with friends...and as long as the rules are being followed as setup by the organizers...the more the merrier!
Also I like the Mr. Wonka reference John...
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Everyone take a deep breath, count to 10, and remember that this a video game tournament.
And as a slightly famous man once said, "Video games are meant to be fun."
Homer, my comment wasn't directed at you. I just wanted to set the record straight with everyone, and hopefully end that debate, so we can get back to the fun part.
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Count me in... I've emailed my entry submission. My current HS is only 266,000, but looking forward to joining in if I'm not too lowly on the DK ladder :)
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Count me in as I need to get better before I turn up to the KO3
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IT's all good to me! I still have a small outside chance at this point only because I finally got to lvl 19-6 but still don't have the skills to put up the really big game. This is all for FUN and think it will be a blast! Go go go!!!
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We have over 20 contestants, and still over 2 weeks to go! This is going to be epic!
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Looking good everyone!!!
Reminder: In order to register for the contest you must send in a registration email as stated by the posted rules. There are a few people who wanted to play who have not signed up yet, so don't forget to register :)
Good luck everyone and don't forget to practice :-)
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Original Allen Iverson Practice Rant (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d29VsG35DQM#)
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Allen Staal has officially registered...... Word.
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Allen Staal has officially registered...... Word.
oh no!
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Allen Staal has officially registered...... Word.
oh no!
And there goes any chance of me being the highest scoring Aussie within the field :'(
Is there any chance of everyone who is participating posting their PB before this starts? I'm guessing I'll be at the bottom of the list with a 266K score. This will be heaps of fun, I just hope I can manage to post a qualifying score, anything over 250k will be a good day for me.
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Allen Staal has officially registered...... Word.
oh no!
And there goes any chance of me being the highest scoring Aussie within the field :'(
Is there any chance of everyone who is participating posting their PB before this starts? I'm guessing I'll be at the bottom of the list with a 266K score. This will be heaps of fun, I just hope I can manage to post a qualifying score, anything over 250k will be a good day for me.
I've managed to bump mine to 183600, I'm using this as an incentive, I will make it on the score board. But I figure even if I have no chance it can't hurt having more people streaming dk at the same time.
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So at some point in the next few days I'm gonna update my blog with an announcement/summons to this tournament.
But first, we need a name for it!
Since it's an open tourney (aside from the million-point exemption), this one really has no particular or essential connection to the Kong Off wildcard division, and is not a "rematch," so "Donkey Kong Wildcard Tournament Rematch #2" leaves a lot to be desired.
Anybody got any clever ideas? My brain isn't in title mode right now.
And I guess it doesn't need to be clever.
I don't know, The DK Open? The Kong Klassic?
In any case, we're gonna have to call it something...
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The Flippin' Virgins Tournament!
The Aspiring Millionaires Tournament!
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I can't think of anything witty at the moment, but I like the DK klassic!
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Hold up a minute there fellas.....
1) As of now the official name is "Donkey Kong Wild Card Rematch".
2) It is associated with the Kong Off. (Official announcement to come on TG's site.)
3) It is an official Twin Galaxies sponsored tournament. (Official announcement to come on TG's site.)
4) This tournament is still owned (for lack of a better word) by Eric and I, so the TG and KO affiliation will not change that fact that we control every aspect the DKWCR.
Eric and I have spent a lot of time discussing and tweaking every aspect of this tournament to make it as simple, fair and as fun as possible. But we also want to take it to the next level to get as many people involved as possible. I can't really say much more, but I"m pretty sure you guys will appreciate the way this tournament will affect the KO3 wild card division.
So Chris, you're gonna have to roll with "Donkey Kong Wild Card Rematch" ;) And thanks for giving the tournament a plug on your blog. I think that will really boost it's exposure. We'd like to get at least 30 people playing on the 16th. We're only 4 away.
-John
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OK, rolling!
I thought it was just being called "DKWR 2" not by conscious decision but by default. There appear to be details involved that I was most definitely unaware of, that's exciting.
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Benziger's Cup
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So at some point in the next few days I'm gonna update my blog with an announcement/summons to this tournament.
But first, we need a name for it!
Since it's an open tourney (aside from the million-point exemption), this one really has no particular or essential connection to the Kong Off wildcard division, and is not a "rematch," so "Donkey Kong Wildcard Tournament Rematch #2" leaves a lot to be desired.
Anybody got any clever ideas? My brain isn't in title mode right now.
And I guess it doesn't need to be clever.
I don't know, The DK Open? The Kong Klassic?
In any case, we're gonna have to call it something...
How about "Gorilla Warfare"?
Everybody get the feeble play on words there (gorilla vs. guerilla)? Vincent?
Sorry, I just woke up, and that's the first pseudo-clever suggestion that came to mind.
Anyway, it's a moot point. I see the naming of the event has already been decided.
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Everybody get the feeble play on words there (gorilla vs. guerilla)? Vincent?
I do not ;-) haha.
I don't really know how it could be called. Something like:"The Kong Off But Only The People With Less Than 1M Can Participate Because The Ones Above 1M+ Might Be Too Good So People With A High Score Of Just Like 800K Would Not Have Enough Chances To Win, And We Want Fair Chances For Everyone, And Estel Goffinet Can Participate At 999,800"
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Something like:"The Kong Off But Only The People With Less Than 1M Can Participate Because The Ones Above 1M+ Might Be Too Good So People With A High Score Of Just Like 800K Would Not Have Enough Chances To Win, And We Want Fair Chances For Everyone, And Estel Goffinet Can Participate At 999,800"
Good luck fitting all that on a T-Shirt. There wouldn't be any room left over for Allen's face!
Speaking of t-shirts, maybe someone could make a few of these:
Front: There's a Donkey Kong Kill Screen coming up, if anyone is interested
Back: Just not yours
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Vincent, that was actually the original name, but we had to go with something else cause my printer was low on ink.
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lol mate.
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Sent my registration email!
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Ok. I'm a little late to the party but better late than never. I see you're looking for names how about wildcard rematch the best of the rest. Since the very best aren't playing. Or donkey kong one king to rule them all. Lol. Anyways I really got on here to find out submitting for arcade. Will I need to do a full walk through of my cabinet because it's kinda hard tethered to a computer with limited cord available. I just want to know the full rules to play for arcade. Thanks again for the fun opportunity. Havent played a whole lot But hope to get a few games in around work and kids sleep.
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the rules are not up on the new website yet, and i think there will be a change in the dk rules shortly to make it less hassle, but you will certainly need to do a full walkround so you may need to get a usb extention if you are using a webcam...
in the meantime if you want to use the old rules Hank did some video demos http://www.classicarcadegaming.com/forums/index.php?topic=3584.0 (http://www.classicarcadegaming.com/forums/index.php?topic=3584.0)
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Ok. I got stuff set up pretty much. Just gotta get the audio working and I need to get better quality for the video. Just sent in my registration. Hopefully everything is okay with that. Looks like we'll be having some million point players playing. Good luck to everyone!
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Ok. I got stuff set up pretty much. Just gotta get the audio working and I need to get better quality for the video. Just sent in my registration. Hopefully everything is okay with that. Looks like we'll be having some million point players playing. Good luck to everyone!
Welcome to the forum Bliss! Post your Twitch channel in the List of DK Streamers (https://donkeykongforum.net/index.php?topic=3.0) thread and I'll add you to the list.
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I forgot to take off work for the competition. I'm really going to have time to put in one attempt... haha... If I win that won't make sense. Good luck everyone.
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One attempt is all it takes sometimes andrew :D, Don't feel bad I have to work also and plan on finishing the day well.
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Was wondering if I was registered for the wildcard rematch? I sent email but didn't know if their was a new list out or no of registered players. Thanks in advance.
Joseph Carroll
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Joseph, did you find the forum through the link on the Donkey Kong blog by any chance?
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Well I got Saturday off from work so I have all day to play now. I plan to keep my extended DK playing hiatus going until then as I find I play better after having taken a break for a while.
Good luck everyone.
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Chris I can't remember but I have posted a few times on their. Do you run it?
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Man I've been sick for over a month and havent played anything :-(
I'm gonna suck at it this weekend but I'll be giving it a go still. Gotta take it out for Australia lol
You hear that Allen Staal lol
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Unfortunately I won't be able to play this weekend. But I wish everyone good luck, and a little extra luck to Mr. Awestralia Allen. He's gonna need it :P
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Unfortunately I won't be able to play this weekend. But I wish everyone good luck, and a little extra luck to Mr. Awestralia Allen. He's gonna need it :P
He'll beat me this weekend for sure. I have this cough that I've had for 8 weeks now. And when I start it goes for 5 to 10 minutes meaning I'll die in the game if I do :-(
I'll try my best I want a 600K+ game
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These things always fall on my bowling league weekends. I might not get to play after 4pm, but plan on playing a lot from the time I wake up until around 4pm when I have to go bowl...maybe get in a game or two after midnight (EST).
This is a great event...was a lot of fun last time. Best of luck to everyone this weekend!
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"Mark it eight, Dude."
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I'd be so happy if I got 1M during this event. The last game I played (roughly 4 months ago), I had my closest run ever that ended at around 820k. And at that point, I hadn't played in about 3 months.
Let's just hope that taking long breaks gives me huge scores. I'll either hit 1M on Saturday or I won't hit 500k.
So can I start a game at 11:59pm Saturday and finish 3 hrs later and it will still count? Because that's likely what I'll be doing.
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Let's just hope that taking long breaks gives me huge scores.
This seems to be the way of it for me.
Something about playing after not having played in a while makes my brain a lot more interested in what it's doing, it notices more, and it works better.
If I've been playing a lot, I go into a kind of patternistic autopilot and am not as creative or sensitive to the novelty of situations. I get bored, and that, combined with the accumulated rage from dying over and over all day, gets me in a sour mood.
I haven't touched the machine in about two weeks. I'm hoping that will be long enough!
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I can't play DK constantly. It's not fun for me, so that's really why I don't have 1M. And I don't want to make it a chore, regardless that I know I can hit 1M pretty fast if I tried. If it's a chore, it's not worth doing. I will get 1M on my own time schedule. :)
Maybe my interest will grow again after Saturday, but 3 hr sessions+ (daily) are too long for me personally.
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i can happily play most days, but i have very little tolerance for restarting, if i dont get a game started quick i need to walk away for a couple hours...
8)
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I will likely play a game your two with my newborn baby strapped to my chest.
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I use to love playing when my ex girlfriends daughter would wake up mid game and she'd make me get all the pursues for Pauline on the rivets. I'd have to tell her I'll get it for her on the next one if it was too risky. She was my good luck charm. I go all my high scores with her watching my play.
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andrewg: If you start a game at 11:59 it wont count.
The rules specifically state this:
"Games started before the official contest start time (no matter how close to the official contest start time) will not be eligible."
Also, remember, start time is 12:00am PST
Here's the start times, I think this covers everyone.
US/Pacific Time (UTC-8)03/16/13 12:00 AM - 03/17/13 12:00 AM
US/Mountain Time (UTC-7) 03/16/13 01:00 AM - 03/17/13 01:00 AM
US/Central Time (UTC-6) 03/16/13 02:00 AM - 03/17/13 02:00 AM
US/Eastern Time (UTC-5)03/16/13 03:00 AM - 03/17/13 03:00 AM
Australia/Sydney (UTC+11) 03/16/13 06:00 PM - 1/17/13 06:00 PM
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andrewg: If you start a game at 11:59 it wont count.
The rules specifically state this:
"Games started before the official contest start time (no matter how close to the official contest start time) will not be eligible."
Also, remember, start time is 12:00am PST
Here's the start times, I think this covers everyone.
US/Pacific Time (UTC-8) 3/16/13 12:00 AM - 1/20/13 12:00 AM
US/Mountain Time (UTC-7) 3/16/13 01:00 AM - 1/20/13 01:00 AM
US/Central Time (UTC-6) 3/16/13 02:00 AM - 1/20/13 02:00 AM
US/Eastern Time (UTC-5) 3/16/13 03:00 AM - 1/20/13 03:00 AM
Australia/Sydney (UTC+11)16/19/13 07:00 PM - 1/20/13 07:00 PM
I believe he's talking about 1 min before the contest ends.
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Here's the start times, I think this covers everyone.
US/Pacific Time (UTC-8) 3/16/13 12:00 AM - 1/20/13 12:00 AM
US/Mountain Time (UTC-7) 3/16/13 01:00 AM - 1/20/13 01:00 AM
US/Central Time (UTC-6) 3/16/13 02:00 AM - 1/20/13 02:00 AM
US/Eastern Time (UTC-5) 3/16/13 03:00 AM - 1/20/13 03:00 AM
Australia/Sydney (UTC+11)16/19/13 07:00 PM - 1/20/13 07:00 PM
Hey John, you might want to correct those January 20th references, unless I'm missing something (perhaps you and Mr. Peabody plan to make use of the "Wayback Machine"). :)
EDIT: Also, just noticed that the Australia start date is listed as "16/19/13".
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Are scores put up during this event going to be TG verified?
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Okay... fixed the start end times. I really f'd that up.
You can start a game at 11:59.59PM on 03/16/13 and it will count. There were a few that did that last time.
Scores for this tournament will NOT be TG certified. That's something that's being discussed. There will be a solid answer on that before the next tournament. From what I hear, the whole DK verification is going to change.
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If anyone has any questions before or during the tournament, message me on Facebook. If you not on Facebook, email dkwildcardrematch@gmail.com. Emails may not get answered as quick as FB message.
If you're not friends with me on facebook, friend request me. I need all the friends I can get!
Less than 5 hours till start time.....
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I'm gonna have to go do my snow removal job sometime soon tonight, so I probably won't be able to start streaming until a few hours past the start time. Just letting people know, so they don't think I've forgotten or fallen asleep or something. I may even sleep first (after I get back from my job) and just then play.
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i only just realized the US timezone changed last week, i was an hour out, but i still make it 5h10mins from now?
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Is there a link for the scoreboard?
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Everyone,
The scoreboard for this event will be posted here on this forum:
https://donkeykongforum.net/index.php?topic=157.0 (https://donkeykongforum.net/index.php?topic=157.0)
Good luck everyone!!!
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Good luck, everyone!
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!!ATTENTION!!
Tournament will be ending in 2 hours!
Don't to forget to submit your scores to dkwildcardrematch@gmail.com. With your name, score, and game start time (estimate is okay. Don't need exact time.)
You will not be ranked if you don't submit your score.
Also, you can start a game up until 1 second before the tournament end time.
Good luck the rest of the way!
Eric and John