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Streaming => Streaming Events => Topic started by: ChrisP on August 19, 2013, 04:36:27 pm
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Here are the current standings for the Wildcard Qualifier series, inclusive of both tournaments.
As you all know at this point, there are 8 spots set aside for players to start on Saturday at the Kong Off 3 (Round 1 of the Wildcard Division).
All players who do not earn one of these 8 spots will have to qualify live on Friday.
Anyone already in the Twin Galaxies Top 12 is noted accordingly, and will get their own machine.
I have listed 6 "alternates" due to the fact that not all of the 8 wildcard spots will necessarily be claimed by players who earn them. In fact, 4 players among the current 8 have already stated that they may not, or will not, attend the Kong Off, or will adbicate their spot if they do attend.
There is also the possibility that one or more of the Top 12 will not attend the KO3, which could upgrade one or more of these qualifiers to the Top 12.
6 might seem like a lot of alternates, but life has many random elements. :)
However, it should also be mentioned that one player (Dave McCrary) is at risk of being pushed out of the Top 12, and has pre-qualified for a wildcard spot, which he will take should he lose his Top 12 ranking. Dean Saglio, Steve Wiltshire, Jeff Willms, and Robbie Lakeman are also pre-qualified, but it is either unlikely (Steve, Robbie) or impossible (Dean, Jeff) that any of them will lose their Top 12 status by the Kong Off 3. (It is also worth noting that there are no more than perhaps 3 or 4 currently-active DK players with both an arcade machine and a desire to submit to TG who have also displayed the skill set to potentially break into the top 12 by the October 25th deadline. I predict no more than 1 Top 12 newcomer by then.)
Also, making this table didn't take as long as it looks. I have learned to be very efficient with Excel!
Rank | Player | Best | In | WC Pos. |
1 | Dean Saglio | 1,087,500 | WCQ#1 | (Top 12) |
2 | Philip Tudose | 1,051,600 | WCQ#1 | 1 |
3 | Jon Mckinnell | 1,019,800 | WCQ#2 | 2 |
4 | Steve Wiltshire | 1,016,100 | WCQ#2 | (Top 12) |
5 | Ben Falls | 1,012,700 | WCQ#2 | 3 |
6 | Jeff Wolfe | 997,800 | WCQ#1 | 4 |
7 | Eric Tessler | 966,000 | WCQ#2 | 5 |
8 | Corey Chambers | 964,500 | WCQ#1 | 6 |
9 | Dave McCrary | 934,000 | WCQ#1 | (Top 12) |
10 | Chris Psaros | 893,100 | WCQ#2 | 7 |
11 | Jeff Willms | 865,500 | WCQ#1 | (Top 12) |
12 | Robbie Lakeman | 851,300 | WCQ#1 | (Top 12) |
13 | Daniel Dock | 839,300 | WCQ#2 | 8 |
14 | Timothy Sczerby | 725,000 | WCQ#2 | 9 (Alt.#1) |
15 | Ethan Daniels | 690,900 | WCQ#2 | 10 (Alt.#2) |
16 | Daniel Desjardins | 688,600 | WCQ#1 | 11 (Alt.#3) |
17 | Mike Groesbeck | 685,700 | WCQ#2 | (Top 12) |
18 | Hans Kollinger | 685,600 | WCQ#2 | 12 (Alt.#4) |
19 | Shawn Robinson | 680,300 | WCQ#2 | 13 (Alt.#5) |
20 | Jeff Harrist | 678,200 | WCQ#1 | 14 (Alt.#6) |
21 | Brian Allen | 637,800 | WCQ#1 | NA |
22 | Shane Mosher | 637,400 | WCQ#1 | NA |
23 | Jeremy Young | 590,500 | WCQ#2 | NA |
24 | Matt Douglas | 519,600 | WCQ#2 | NA |
25 | George Riley | 471,900 | WCQ#1 | NA |
26 | Todd Lalonde | 464,900 | WCQ#2 | NA |
27 | Eric Martin | 454,300 | WCQ#1 | NA |
28 | Aaron Rounsaville | 441,700 | WCQ#2 | NA |
29 | Dustin Myers | 440,600 | WCQ#2 | NA |
30 | Jason Nugent | 420,800 | WCQ#2 | NA |
31 | Melkon DomBourian | 384,400 | WCQ#2 | NA |
32 | Ken House | 383,900 | WCQ#2 | NA |
33 | John Salter | 326,600 | WCQ#2 | NA |
34 | Allen Staal | 311,600 | WCQ#1 | NA |
35 | Jonathan McCourt | 302,100 | WCQ#2 | NA |
36 | Chris Benn | 301,500 | WCQ#1 | NA |
37 | Jason Corey Brittain | 288,400 | WCQ#2 | NA |
38 | Dustin Pease | 268,200 | WCQ#1 | NA |
39 | Matthew Ziolkowski | 243,800 | WCQ#2 | NA |
40 | Nick Sheils | 226,300 | WCQ#1 | NA |
41 | Craig Ziegler | 217,600 | WCQ#1 | NA |
42 | Anthony Trujillo | 211,700 | WCQ#2 | NA |
43 | Don Rubin | 176,000 | WCQ#1 | NA |
44 | Steve Grunberger | 172,400 | WCQ#2 | NA |
45 | Mystery player | 151,200 | WCQ#2 | NA |
46 | Andrew John Purkett | 122,300 | WCQ#1 | NA |
47 | Ky Staal | 120,700 | WCQ#1 | NA |
48 | Mariano Velasco | 115,000 | WCQ#2 | NA |
49 | Daniel Day | 99,300 | WCQ#2 | NA |
50 | Stan Trazka | 84,700 | WCQ#1 | NA |
51 | Katie Young | 69,500 | WCQ#2 | NA |
52 | Katherine Williams | 40,200 | WCQ#2 | NA |
53 | Michael Stastny | 31,500 | WCQ#2 | NA |
54 | Jeff Pickles | 21,900 | WCQ#2 | NA |
55 | Cody Crouch | 18,500 | WCQ#2 | NA |
56 | Eddie Tessler | 17,200 | WCQ#1 | NA |
57 | Chuck Vess | 14,800 | WCQ#1 | NA |
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I guess I need to be shooting for a high 900k killscreen then if I want to be in the Wildcard 8.
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If you take out 3 of the guys I mentioned (Phil - not going, Jon - not going, Ben - planning not to take the spot), the score to beat at this point is only 688,900!
That's an almost-best-case scenario though, and there are several people capable of putting up a monster in the final tourney. Ross isn't even on here yet!
High kill screen is a smart target.
I'm in 7th position right now (effectively 4th if you take out the 3 players I mentioned, even 3rd if Corey doesn't go), but I still consider myself very much teetering on the bubble. I would not be too surprised if my 893K didn't hold up.
Lots of factors in play!
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Yeah I'm still in 8th overall still! :D I feel 900k is probably safe tho consider the amount of people who arent going.
Time will tell!
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The truth of the matter is, it's not a huge deal to miss out on one of the auto-qualifier spots and have to play the live session.
By the time you get the Top 12 and the top 8 online qualifiers out of the way, that's 20 players gone, so you won't have to get a huge score on Friday to make it to Saturday. Anybody could probably bink it with a solid 600K game on Friday.
Saturday is when it will get hard!
I said it right after my game, but if I didn't make it, I would be happy to play for the spot on Friday. Pre-qualifying would be cool just on principle, but live is cool in a different way. I'm fine with it regardless.
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Then there's still the question of how alternates for the Top 12 will be picked if one or more of them don't go to Denver. Will it be from the top wildcards or will they just go to the next person on the TG arcade list?
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Well I do think regardless of all the back and forth with mame vs arcade and sat vs friday if I somehow get pushed down to 9th and have to play Friday if I DONT qualify for Saturday that is on me.
I'm still a little sketchy on how the Friday play works out for the Wildcard but hope that will be clear soon. I know there is concern of last coin drop and all of that so the "Top 12" can pick out machines but will those also include the WC machines or will those be separate?
I currently think its not and that you get to play from like 11am - 2pm (one real session with last coin drop at 2pm). Stop at 5pm let the pros pick out machines for ??? time. Then resume play until midnight to qualify for Saturday? Unless I get a dedicated cab I seriously think I will need to play on Friday as I have just had too many issues lately with my laptop and internet that streaming SUCKS. I honestly don't have the time (or perhaps its resolve?) to try and fix it all because its just donkey kong not some 1080P HD game. Grrrrr.
I fixed some of them I think but its been a real pain in the arse to have 1 or 2 deaths every game due to your controller screwing up or x-split dropping framerates like mad. Otherwise ALL IS WELL! :D
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Yeah, I thought about that possibility JC, and it's actually a really interesting question because the wildcard scores are getting so high in these tourneys that they actually outrank people in the Top 12, let alone 13th and lower.
It would be weird if, say, 3 main lineup players couldn't make it to KO3, and Eric Howard (who will be TG #15 when Robbie gets verified) got in again with 957K!
Meanwhile Jeff Wolfe, Eric T., etc., all have higher scores, and on arcade machines to boot, but they aren't TG verified!
This isn't as far-fetched as it sounds either.
According to Shaun Boyd, there is a very real chance that he will not be attending KO3. Hank said he isn't even a sure thing (possible his schedule won't allow it). Billy not showing is always a possibility. So that's 3 of the top 12 right there. To be fair, Hank and Billy not coming is significantly less likely than Shaun not coming, but anything can happen within a group of 11 people, so let's just say those two "represent" the rest of the group.
Then you get into the alternates: Estel (#14) seems to have moved on from DK so maybe count him out, then Eric Howard (#15), and some guy with 907K in 16th! ;D
Boy would that be the ultimate reverse-bubble!
They also seem to have picked up another DK cab, according to Jourdan a few weeks ago. How does that change things? Will it be a wildcard cab? Another "main lineup" cab? I don't know.
The last tourney is gonna be intense...
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and some guy with 907K in 16th! ;D
Haha, yeah, as things stand now, I actually think I have a better chance of getting into the Top 12 than getting a wildcard spot . ;)
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LOL. Love eet.
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Oh yer!
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Yea I chatted breifly with Shaun on Sunday during the 2-3 games I played and was surprised when he said he may not be going this year. Actually there's a lot of 'what ifs' pointed out above that will be interesting to see play out over the next 2 months. I don't really feel safe personally, and regret being busy and not getting to play much during the last couple WCR tourneys. Right now it only takes a leapfrog and a newcomer to bubble me completely out.
I'm trying to remember, when did they create that billboard thing with the top 12 KO2 competitors last year? I believe it was before the 1 month cutoff, but nobody put up a huge score and forced them to change the billboard.
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Mark Kiehl wasn't even on the list on the KO2 website! :-[
http://the-1up.com/kongoff/players.html (http://the-1up.com/kongoff/players.html)
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I think it might be time to bump this topic now since Jeff Wolfe put up a top 12 score. Obviously a lot will change in the next month with top 12 bubble players pressing hard and a whole WCQ left to play. But if I'm reading this list correctly, then the #8 WC spot could actually be Hans Kollinger's. If Phil, Jon and Tim aren't going to the KO3, and Ben doesn't take his WC spot, then the 8 spots as of today are:
Eric Tessler 966,000 WCQ#2
Corey Chambers 964,500 WCQ#1
Dave McCrary 934,000 WCQ#1
Chris Psaros 893,100 WCQ#2
Daniel Dock 839,300 WCQ#2
Ethan Daniels 690,900 WCQ#2
Daniel Desjardins 688,600 WCQ#1
Hans Kollinger 685,600 WCQ#2
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Is Ben not going to the KO this year? I keep reading that he isn't, or may not take his wild card spot?
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Ben is going but not for DK. He's going to break the Satan's Hollow WR. I think ideally he wants to do both. And they say Asians are overachievers.
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Oh ok, thanks for the info. With all this top 12, wildcard, bubble, who's not going, etc talk...it's hard to keep track of everything...let alone up your score and climb a few notches on the scoreboard.
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Disregard my other post if this is the official online qualifier ranking. SHouldn't this be updated to show Jeff Wolfe in Top 12 and me out of the top 12?
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I put this together after the tourney so that people could see where they stood. Unless I made a mistake, it should agree with Eric and John's figures (though not necessarily).
As for updating it, I'm not sure if I should do that, because part of the idea was to have a permanent/historical record of where things stood as of the end of the second tournament.
I will do a "final" after the third tourney though!