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Title: Most Fireballs Smashes on Rivets?
Post by: dknetter on June 20, 2020, 01:29:52 pm
I just hit 9 on level 6...by chance, not really going for it. Anyone ever get 10? Just curious. I'm guessing 11 would be impossible, and not sure if it'd be easier to get 10 on one of the earlier levels.
Title: Re: Most Fireballs Smashes on Rivets?
Post by: Barra on June 20, 2020, 02:44:21 pm
The most I've personally done on L5+ is 11. I think someone has had a 12 though?
Title: Re: Most Fireballs Smashes on Rivets?
Post by: QAOP Spaceman on June 20, 2020, 03:55:14 pm
 <Allen> firteen
Title: Re: Most Fireballs Smashes on Rivets?
Post by: Kibbey93 on June 20, 2020, 06:58:17 pm
In theory you could get 20+ with the near perfect ONG.
13-15 seems more reasonable as likely maxes though.
Title: Re: Most Fireballs Smashes on Rivets?
Post by: Milehighdt on June 20, 2020, 08:18:04 pm
I had 12 on level 2 https://www.twitch.tv/videos/87334849
Title: Re: Most Fireballs Smashes on Rivets?
Post by: homerwannabee on June 20, 2020, 08:39:27 pm
The most you can do on any rivet level is 40 to 45.
Title: Re: Most Fireballs Smashes on Rivets?
Post by: SithOfSpades on June 20, 2020, 09:47:31 pm
Talking about Level 5+ rivets, my max is 11 smashes (https://www.twitch.tv/videos/421210629). I have done 7 with the bottom hammer twice that I know of. I believe 7 has been done with the top hammer by other players, but I don't think I have. I believe the current highest 5+ rivets has 11 smashes in it. I think if someone wanted to grind for smashes, we would see a 13 or 14 smash. I would be very surprised to see more than 15, but watching my video I can see that maybe an 8th smash would have been possible if I had gotten even luckier with the climb on the last one and went all out for smashes. However, that is hoping to get even luckier on a board where I already got real outlier luck.
Title: Re: Most Fireballs Smashes on Rivets?
Post by: stella_blue on June 21, 2020, 03:32:05 am

My highest total might be 11 smashes, which I have achieved twice.

Level 2-3

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/43375270

Level 11-6

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/44774596

I would estimate the practical maximum at 16 or so.

Title: Re: Most Fireballs Smashes on Rivets?
Post by: GILLYKONG on June 21, 2020, 05:57:10 am
I watched luke have 7 bottom hammer smashes the night before last. Didn't think to count his top. I've never had 7. 6 serval times.
Title: Re: Most Fireballs Smashes on Rivets?
Post by: dknetter on June 21, 2020, 02:07:04 pm
Just to be clear, I was saying that I hit 9 with just the one hammer. It was the bottom hammer, and wasn't considering what I might have hit with the top one. I was mainly wondering what the max with one hammer someone had gotten, but counting both for the board seems just reasonable to track.
Title: Re: Most Fireballs Smashes on Rivets?
Post by: Barra on June 21, 2020, 02:14:01 pm
9 with ONE hammer?!
Have you got a video? That sounds incredible
Title: Re: Most Fireballs Smashes on Rivets?
Post by: dknetter on June 21, 2020, 04:15:15 pm
Yeah, well I thought it was pretty incredible too, until ITT people were talking about getting 11, 12, etc., and so then was thinking maybe I just don't know the technique of getting so many. Then I realized people were talking about both hammers. The funny thing is that after the bottom hammer, I just skipped the top one even though the fires were all clustered up on the left...cause you know, still focused on just getting a KS.

https://streamable.com/q9rh0g
Title: Re: Most Fireballs Smashes on Rivets?
Post by: xelnia on June 21, 2020, 04:31:36 pm
https://streamable.com/q9rh0g

 <gasp>

Yeah, well I thought it was pretty incredible too, until ITT people were talking about getting 11, 12, etc., and so then was thinking maybe I just don't know the technique of getting so many. Then I realized people were talking about both hammers.

 Kreygasm

The funny thing is that after the bottom hammer, I just skipped the top one even though the fires were all clustered up on the left...cause you know, still focused on just getting a KS.

 BibleThump

Post that INP if you still have it. Great one for The Archives?.
Title: Re: Most Fireballs Smashes on Rivets?
Post by: xelnia on June 21, 2020, 04:32:27 pm
The most you can do on any rivet level is 40 to 45.

That seems a little high. Please show your work.
Title: Re: Most Fireballs Smashes on Rivets?
Post by: dknetter on June 21, 2020, 04:48:00 pm
Sure, here's the inp. A pretty bad game in general, aside from L6 which also had a nice escape before the fire smashes.
Title: Re: Most Fireballs Smashes on Rivets?
Post by: Barra on June 21, 2020, 05:04:14 pm
That is outrageous! I never Sausage a thing

Would have almost certainly been a 12, maybe even a 13 or 14 if you grabbed the top hammer. Outside chance of 15 if you were super lucky.
Title: Re: Most Fireballs Smashes on Rivets?
Post by: bh on June 21, 2020, 05:37:49 pm
I would've believed you if you had told me you'd built a TAS that manipulated the fireball RNG.
Title: Re: Most Fireballs Smashes on Rivets?
Post by: homerwannabee on June 21, 2020, 08:12:45 pm
The most you can do on any rivet level is 40 to 45.

That seems a little high. Please show your work.
Well I didn't say you only use one man. If you use all 4 men the most you can get is 40 to 45.  Glad someone took the bait.
8)
Title: Re: Most Fireballs Smashes on Rivets?
Post by: Kibbey93 on June 21, 2020, 09:13:28 pm
The most you can do on any rivet level is 40 to 45.

That seems a little high. Please show your work.
Well I didn't say you only use one man. If you use all 4 men the most you can get is 40 to 45.  Glad someone took the bait.
8)

If you use all 4 men the most you CAN get is 80+. With more reasonable best ONG 50-60 probably more practical if someone grinded for long enough.
Title: Re: Most Fireballs Smashes on Rivets?
Post by: VIMikey on March 07, 2021, 11:15:24 am
Here is my Twitch clip where I hit 7 fireballs with the bottom hammer on the 3rd level rivet stage.

https://www.twitch.tv/dkmikey77/clip/YawningResourcefulShieldShadyLulu-zVXtxaEodYc9lX_i

DKMikey77
Title: Re: Most Fireballs Smashes on Rivets?
Post by: muscleandfitness on May 27, 2021, 11:00:33 am
ive done 13 smashes twice lick it biarches  <Allen> <Billy>