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Streaming => Streaming Events => Topic started by: Donkey Kong Genius on December 07, 2014, 12:15:41 pm
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Mario Bros Online Open is sponsored by the Mario Bros Wiki (http://wiki.donkeykonggenius.com/Mario_Bros). This tournament is the first in a series of tournaments hosted by the Donkey Kong Wiki (http://wiki.donkeykonggenius.com/Main_Page) which may develop into a Mario Bros League, or may also include other titles such as Donkey Kong, Donkey Kong Junior, Donkey Kong 3, etc through out the year for a DKG Gaming League. Pending participation and interest.
Welcome to the WITH POW Mario Bros Tournament!!!
Start Time: January 16, 2015 6:00 PM Pacific Time (6 pm start to accommodate east coast players)
End Time: January 18, 2015 9:00 PM Pacific time
Entry Fee: FREE!
Prizes:
Winner will be put on a cover of Arcade Culture Magazine.
$80 for 1st (Contributors: $40 Dan, $40 John Bart)
$30 for 2nd (Contributors: $20 Dan, $10 John Bart)
$10 mystery bounty (Contributor: $10 Dan)
$10 mystery bounty (Contributor: $10 John Bart)
There are no other prizes presently unless someone wishes to put up bounties, etc.
IMPORTANT: The rules for the contest are laid out below. Please read through all of the rules carefully. Corey Chambers and Ethan Daniels have the right to immediately reject any score submission if these rules are not followed as outlined below. ***NO EXCEPTIONS***
Registration
- Any contestant may register for this contest, it is open to any person on this planet that plays Classic Arcade Games no matter what your skill level may be!!!
- All registrations must be received prior to the start time of the competition.
- In order to register, simply click on the following link and submit your information: http://www.donkeykonggenius.com/Tournaments/registration.php (http://www.donkeykonggenius.com/Tournaments/registration.php)
Stream Setup
- All contestants are required to stream their games on twitch.tv or hitbox. (NO EXCEPTIONS FOR ANY REASON).
- Contestants are solely responsible for setting up their stream. Corey Chambers and Ethan Daniels will not be involved in any contestant’s stream setup for any reason.
- Contestants may enlist the help of anyone except Corey Chambers and Ethan Daniels to setup their stream.
- Contestant’s stream quality must be sharp enough to read the level and score at a glance (as well as the rest of the game play). If there is ANY question of score and level due to bad quality stream, that submission will be rejected, instantly, with no exceptions. We suggest that you test your streams and check them from time to time to make sure they are working correctly.
- Streams which are partial, glitchy, edited or manipulated in any way will be rejected.
- Streams must have sound enabled. We must be able to hear the contestants voice and the game sounds.
- Streams must be available for review on the contestants registered streaming channel. If for ANY reason the stream is not available for review on the contestant’s registered streaming channel, the submission will be rejected. NO EXCEPTIONS.
Game Submissions
- In order to submit a score, simply click on the following link: http://www.donkeykonggenius.com/Tournaments/scoresubmission.php (http://www.donkeykonggenius.com/Tournaments/scoresubmission.php)
- Contestant is solely responsible for submitting their own scores.
- Mario Bros arcade, Jamma, or Mario Bros MAME (Mario Bros. (US, Unknown Rev or G)) can both be used for score submissions (must use TG settings of 3 lives, Medium settings, and a bonus life at 20,000 points).
- Since MAME .120 and .121 the dip switches for difficulty are accurate. In previous versions difficulty Medium and Hard were reversed. So in .106 when you play on Medium, you're actually playing on Hard. Therefore, if you want to play on the standard Medium Settings, make sure it is set to hard for these previous versions. If you are unclear about this at all, then please ask.
- Those playing Arcade will have all the dip switches set to off, except the 8th and final switch is set to on, in the up position.
- Score submissions can be for any non-zero score.
- At the start of EACH new stream, contestant must state their full name (you no longer have to state your name before every single game).
- The entire game must be played only by the registered contestant who is identified at the beginning of the game.
- Bounties - if applicable.
* Contestant is solely responsible for specifying which bounty they want to claim when they submit a score.
* A contestant can only be paid for a maximum of 1 bounty for any one contest.
* If a submitted game qualifies for more than 1 bounty, the contestant is solely responsible for specifying which bounty they are claiming and they can only claim a single bounty (and the refs will consider only the specified bounty for the score submission).
* If a contestant tries to claim a bounty however is not awarded that bounty for some reason (i.e., they were incorrect about the bounty or another contestant's score submission invalidates their bounty claim), the contestant may try to claim another bounty on one of their next score submissions.
* Bounties are considered in the order in which the score submissions are received.
* Please remember that the bounty system was introduced for fun and to spread around some extra money to the contestants. Any disputes over the bounties will be settled accordingly by Corey/Ethan.
- Corey and Ethan will be validating all scores and reserve the right to reject any score for any reason.
- Games started before the official contest start time (no matter how close to the official contest start time) will not be eligible.
- Games started after the official contest end time (no matter how close to the official contest end time) will not be eligible.
- Last game can be started any time before the official contest end time (no matter how close to the official contest end time).
- Scores can be submitted up until 8 hours past the official contest end time.
Prize Payouts- if applicable.
- Prize money will be issued in the exact amount stated, ONLY to the registered contestant.
- Prize money will be sent via PayPal or sent via U.S. post in the form of a registered money order, or check ONLY to the registered contestant.
- If the contestant rejects the prize acceptance guidelines, listed above, or chooses not to accept the prize, that prize will be dropped.
Closing Remarks
- Please remember, at the end of the day, this is for fun. Anyone who does not follow the rules, cheats, etc, will be removed from the contest, and possibly banded from all future contests.
- These guidelines can be changed at any time by Corey and Ethan.
- Get practicing and good luck to all contestants
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I will donate a prize: I will put the winner on a cover of Arcade Culture Magazine.
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Very nice! Thanks! It has been added. :D
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I'm willing to put some cash up for people. If you get at least 10 people to sign up
$40 for First
$20 for 2nd
$10 mystery bounty.
Lets-a-go!
Dan
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Start Time: January 16, 2014 6:00 PM Pacific Time (6 pm start to accommodate east coast players)
End Time: January 18, 2014 9:00 PM Pacific time
Who won? Kappa
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Start Time: January 16, 2014 6:00 PM Pacific Time (6 pm start to accommodate east coast players)
End Time: January 18, 2014 9:00 PM Pacific time
Who won? Kappa
We'll played sir
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Awesome, Dan! I will be sure to get that 10 people playing :D. Good catch as usual, Jeremy. Date fixed.
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IN <stirpot>
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I don't like this game, so I will try to develop a liking for it by playing in this tournament. IN.
I will be the Chuck Vess of the Mario Bros. Online Open. Nobody else has to come in last!
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Nobody else has to come in last!
Challenge accepted.
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Nobody else has to come in last!
Challenge accepted.
Seconded
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wda
Maybe I'll buy a PCB so that I'll have more of an incentive to go through the Herculean labor of tilting my monitor sideways.
When I bought my Popeye board I didn't factor in the laziness I would have to overcome to actually play a session...
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Signed up for funzies. I suck at Mario Bros. :P
Can we play on RU or are the dips different?
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Did someone say Mario Bros. tournament?
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Signed up for funzies. I suck at Mario Bros. :P
Can we play on RU or are the dips different?
Default dips at RU are easy unfortunately.
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I have a real soft spot for this game as I've enjoyed too many hours of doubles. I'm horrible at single player but I'm in. Hopefully it'll make me play the game a bit and improve.
To show my love for the game I'm also pitching in the following to the prize pool:
1st - $40
2nd - $10
Mystery bounty (to be decided by the organizers) - $10
Let's flip some turtles!
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Signed up for funzies. I suck at Mario Bros. :P
Can we play on RU or are the dips different?
Default dips at RU are easy unfortunately.
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Prizes and registration list updated. We now have at least 10 players registered so Dan's donations have been officially added to the prize pool. Excited to get the tournament started. :D Thanks to everyone and their contributions.
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I have a real soft spot for this game as I've enjoyed too many hours of doubles.
Very cool! What kind of scores do you guys get on doubles and have you ever tried NO POW doubles?
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I played at work with a co-worker and our scores were above the current WR. We played a super aggressive style where you need to rush up and take things out before they dropped off the top level. By definition it doesn't use the POW at all unless you need a total bail out at some point.
A few years back when Ross and I set the NO POW score at the Seattle show we did it using this approach after just a few hours of me introducing him to the game play style. The game becomes a thing of beauty when it's working well but it definitely is walking a tight rope.
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I played at work with a co-worker and our scores were above the current WR. We played a super aggressive style where you need to rush up and take things out before they dropped off the top level. By definition it doesn't use the POW at all unless you need a total bail out at some point.
A few years back when Ross and I set the NO POW score at the Seattle show we did it using this approach after just a few hours of me introducing him to the game play style. The game becomes a thing of beauty when it's working well but it definitely is walking a tight rope.
You really should get back into playing doubles. There may be a Mario Off 3 sometime this next year and I imagine it will be for doubles only. We could use more teams to make this happen. The current WR was beaten just recently at Free Play Florida and is now 1,186,090. Did you guys have a higher score than that?
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The highest we got was in the 1.4M range and we had to walk away from the machine to get back to work :) We also played on hard because the timing of fireballs actually worked better for the approach we had.
I'd love to play doubles again but I have no one nearby to team up with. This was at an old job 7-8 years ago and we both moved to different cities. Has anyone been able to get an online Mame version playable? A number of years ago I looked into that but it was crap at the time.
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The highest we got was in the 1.4M range and we had to walk away from the machine to get back to work :) We also played on hard because the timing of fireballs actually worked better for the approach we had.
I'd love to play doubles again but I have no one nearby to team up with. This was at an old job 7-8 years ago and we both moved to different cities. Has anyone been able to get an online Mame version playable? A number of years ago I looked into that but it was crap at the time.
Look at the MB high score list on the DK forum and it will show you how to setup Mamehub and Kaillera. It's not perfect but it works and sometimes real good. You would certainly have to use Medium diff. though as that makes a difference. Making the green fireballs come out quicker is totally different.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4tRzeCYeTg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4tRzeCYeTg)
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Awesome. I'll give it a try. Thanks.
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John, I am looking for someone to play doubles with online so if you get around to it I will play with you through mamehub, etc. Let me know.
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John, I am looking for someone to play doubles with online so if you get around to it I will play with you through mamehub, etc. Let me know.
Cool. I'll see if it can get it setup this weekend. Do you know if we both need to be running the same version of mame? If so what are you running?
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John, I am looking for someone to play doubles with online so if you get around to it I will play with you through mamehub, etc. Let me know.
Cool. I'll see if it can get it setup this weekend. Do you know if we both need to be running the same version of mame? If so what are you running?
It doesn't work this way with people using different versions of mame. Mamehub has it's own built in version of mame. Just download the installer and do a little homework on it to get it to work. (videos to watch) You will have to do a port forwarding with Mamehub to unblock your IP address. Search youtube to figure out that part. And I think mame 154 is used for mamehub currently.
Kaillera uses 119 and the netplay is built into this version of mame. No port forwarding here! There is also a 134 version of Kaillera but I have not used it. It's the easier system to use but it has slow down in the higher levels of MB's. :(
They do work and without them Steven and I never would have been able to practice up before the Free Play FL. event. HOWEVER, these systems can be buggy once in a while. It's just weird! Some nights they work so damn good and other nights the game may not even start up in Mamehub. Then we just use Kaillera that night. ;D
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Mamehub is the way to go. Like others have said it can have connection/desync problems but it's the best you're going to be able to get.
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- Streams must have sound enabled. We must be able to hear the contestants voice and the game sounds.
Twitch muting copyrighted music could be a problem with this.
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Possibly a problem. I assume that people will be in and out of our streams and will be able to hear all the sounds, etc. It is not muted during live play. I would encourage all of us to watch in on each others games.
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We played a game of MB's on MAMEHub last night and it had a upgrade to the system as soon as we started it up. The game started up and played really well until we got over 800K. At that time, the game went into a major slow down for like 4 seconds and then sped up real fast for 4 seconds while trying to catch up, killing off Steven's last man. I still had all 4 of my men. <Allen>
Install this today and get started guys!!
Port Forwarding: It just involves getting your IP address and adding it to your router software to make the MAMEHub port open.
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Ok I've got this all setup and running on my Mame machine. Which rom is the accepted one?
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Mario Bros (US, Unknown Rev). Just tried it myself, about a second delay between hitting jump and the actual animation. :(
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Mario Bros (US, Unknown Rev). Just tried it myself, about a second delay between hitting jump and the actual animation. :(
It's not going to be the same as the arcade but it's good enough. There is also a file you can edit to make the response quicker. I'll have to give this to you later when I'm at my home computer.
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We just played a 300k game off hand, we will play some more, but I wanted to verify if we are using Hard or Medium for this emulator?
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Medium as it's mame 154 or so which has the dips fixed. This video can help as well. :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lo1ENNUEWHM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lo1ENNUEWHM)
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The lag between your actions and them actually happening in game is noticeable but I think it's manageable. I'm amazed that it works as well as it does. I think for practicing doubles it more than does the job.
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The lag between your actions and them actually happening in game is noticeable but I think it's manageable. I'm amazed that it works as well as it does. I think for practicing doubles it more than does the job.
Believe me, there have been issues with it but it does work. We have had games where we are at 500K and nobody has lost a man and then it does something called a lag delay and more or less our game is over. It's something where one or both of us picks up this bug where you try to go left or right or jump and it does it 2 seconds later. No way to play that way.
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Do save states work? The reality is that for practice what you'd really want to do is just run loops at max difficulty and not really worry about the final score or the early boards. If you ran into a game killing bug ever third loop you would still get some good practice in fpr when you could play together in person.
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I thought about save states and tried it but I think it only works on one PC and not both. You can certainly try it and let us know what happens.
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The Mario Bros Online Open begins in two weeks on 1/16/2015. 12 players already registered! Be sure to register. Also, during the tournament, only those who are registered for the tournament will be shown on the streaming page. In other words, if you visit this streaming page during the tournament only Mario Bros games will be there. It will be exclusively for the purpose of the tournament. No need to refresh either. As people go offline and go live the streaming page will refresh every 60 seconds automatically cleaning up newly offline streams and adding the newly online. Registration is a good way for me to track streams and get them added in time. http://www.donkeykonggenius.com/DKG-Streaming/Tournament/ (http://www.donkeykonggenius.com/DKG-Streaming/Tournament/)
- In order to register, simply click on the following link and submit your information: http://www.donkeykonggenius.com/Tournaments/registration.php (http://www.donkeykonggenius.com/Tournaments/registration.php)
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I hope that everyone enjoys the Donkey Kong Open this weekend. Just a friendly reminder that next Friday we will begin the Mario Bros Online Open. Hope to see you there as well. Good luck everyone!
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The Mario Bros Online Open begins tomorrow (Friday 1/16/2015) at 6pm Pacific time/9pm Eastern time.
13 players already registered! Be sure to register if you would like to be eligible for prizes.
- In order to register, simply click on the following link and submit your information: http://www.donkeykonggenius.com/Tournaments/registration.php (http://www.donkeykonggenius.com/Tournaments/registration.php)
Also, during the tournament, only those who are registered for the tournament will be shown on the streaming page. In other words, if you visit this streaming page during the tournament only Mario Bros games will be there. It will be exclusively for the purpose of the tournament. No need to refresh either. As people go offline and go live the streaming page will refresh every 60 seconds automatically cleaning up newly offline streams and adding the newly online. It is also anonymous until you log into one of the chat rooms optional on the right. Registration is a good way for me to track streams and get them added in time, etc: http://www.donkeykonggenius.com/DKG-Streaming/Tournament/ (http://www.donkeykonggenius.com/DKG-Streaming/Tournament/)
SPECIAL NOTE: If you are not familiar with settings on MAME as it pertains to Mario Bros be sure to adhere to the following:
- Mario Bros arcade, Jamma, or Mario Bros MAME (Mario Bros. (US, Unknown Rev or G)) can both be used for score submissions (must use TG settings of 3 lives, Medium settings, and a bonus life at 20,000 points).
- Since MAME .120 and .121 the dip switches for difficulty are accurate. In previous versions difficulty Medium and Hard were reversed. So in .106 when you play on Medium, you're actually playing on Hard. Therefore, if you want to play on the standard Medium Settings, make sure it is set to hard for these previous versions. If you are unclear about this at all, then please ask.
Good luck to everyone and have fun!
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Kreygasm Looking forward to last place Kreygasm
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Corey, do you know if the default RU settings are the same as for the event? I planned to play on RU.
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Ethan, Andrew Barrow said "Default dips at RU are easy unfortunately."
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Ethan, Andrew Barrow said "Default dips at RU are easy unfortunately."
That's correct. You can't use RU since the dip switch settings don't match those specified for the MBO.
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Score updates will be posted at http://wiki.donkeykonggenius.com/Mario_Bros (http://wiki.donkeykonggenius.com/Mario_Bros)
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Boyer takes the lead, putting the pressure back on Kleisath: http://wiki.donkeykonggenius.com/Mario_Bros (http://wiki.donkeykonggenius.com/Mario_Bros)
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Kreygasm
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Steven should be able to take this down no problem. He IS the WR holder. It was more about me trying to redeem myself for playing so bad yesterday. :)