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Title: Donkey Kong Online Open #5 for 2014
Post by: tessler1134 on October 07, 2014, 05:51:23 pm
Donkey Kong Online Open #5 for 2014

Welcome to our 5th Donkey Kong tournament for 2014 !!!!

We have a new pot added to the tournament for anyone who can beat the current DK WR score....see the rules below for details!

Start Time: November 7, 2014 6:00 PM Pacific Time (6 pm start to accommodate east coast players)
End Time: November 9, 2014 9:00 PM Pacific time (51 hours)
Entry Fee: FREE! (and open to all players!)

Prizes
- $200 for the 1st place submitted validated score
- $150 for the 2nd place submitted validated score
- $100 for the 3rd place submitted validated score
- NOTE: The following players cannot win any prize money for this contest (however they are still eligible to win bounties):
   - Corey Chambers
   - Steve  Wiltshire
   - Chris Psaros
   - Ben Falls
   - Jeff Willms
   - Martin Laing

Bounties
- $50 for the first player to reach 800,000 points on their first jump man
- $50 for the first 1 million+ point game submission for someone who has never reached 1 million points in any previous DK game ever played
- $50 for the first 1.1 million+ point game submission for someone who has never reached 1.1 million points in any previous DK game ever played (Thanks Daniel Desjardins!!!)
- $50 for the first player to reach the kill screen (22-1) on the first man (no deaths allowed except for on the kill screen itself)
- $20 for most improved score since the DKOO #1 of this year, based on your previous high score for all the DKOOs of the year (Thanks Nick Sheils)
- $50 for the mystery bounty #1
- $50 for the mystery bounty #2
- $Mystery bounty #3 (thanks to Ethan Daniels)
NOTE: Prizes and bounties might change in the future

DK Arcade World Record Pot (see the rules below)
- Current DK WR: Robbie Lakeman: 1,141,800
- Current Pot Value: $1800
   - UPDATE: Phil Tudose added $100 to the pot!
   - UPDATE: Daniel Desjardins added $50 to the pot!
   - UPDATE: Eric Tessler added $1000 to the pot for this tournament only! Good luck!!!
   - Thanks everyone for contributing to the pot!!!

The current rankings for the contest will be posted in a shared google document located at https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AsoDfaVYTK8JdGxodk1vVmtINUp2dEdMOWVDXzBoeXc&usp=sharing#gid=0. (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AsoDfaVYTK8JdGxodk1vVmtINUp2dEdMOWVDXzBoeXc&usp=sharing#gid=0.) This document contains all the scores for all the DK opens for 2014 plus an aggregate scoreboard. Special thanks to Hank Chien for putting this together for us. The rankings will be updated periodically throughout the duration of the contest.

IMPORTANT: The rules for the contest are laid out below. Please read through all of the rules carefully. Due to the anticipated large number of score submissions, John and Eric have the right to immediately reject any score submission if these rules are not followed as outlined below. ***NO EXCEPTIONS***

Banned Players
- Rudy Ferretti (for obvious reasons)
Note: The above mentioned players will not be allowed to register for the contests or submit scores.
Reminder: John Salter and I (Eric Tessler) reserve the right to ban any player for any reason (player harassment, cheating, misconduct of any kind, excessive complaining, etc).

Registration
- Any contestant may register for this contest, it is open to any person on this planet that plays Donkey Kong no matter what your skill level may be!!!
- All registrations must be received prior to the start time of the competition.
- In order to register, simply click on the following link and submit your information: https://donkeykongforum.net/tournaments/registration.php (https://donkeykongforum.net/tournaments/registration.php)

Stream Setup
- All contestants are required to stream their games on twitch.tv or hitbox. (NO EXCEPTIONS FOR ANY REASON).
- Contestants are solely responsible for setting up their stream.  Eric Tessler and John Salter will not be involved in any contestant’s stream setup for any reason.
- Contestants may enlist the help of anyone except Eric Tessler and John Salter to setup their stream.
- Contestant’s stream quality must be sharp enough to read the level and score at a glance (as well as the rest of the game play).  If there is ANY question of score and level due to bad quality stream, that submission will be rejected, instantly, with no exceptions. We suggest that you test your streams and check them from time to time to make sure they are working correctly.
- Streams which are partial, glitchy, edited or manipulated in any way will be rejected.
- Streams must have sound enabled. We must be able to hear the contestants voice and the DK sounds.
- Streams must be available for review on the contestants registered twitch.tv channel.  If for ANY reason the stream is not available for review on the contestant’s registered twitch.tv channel, the submission will be rejected.  NO EXCEPTIONS.

Game Submissions
- In order to submit a score, simply click on the following link: https://donkeykongforum.net/tournaments/scoresubmission.php (https://donkeykongforum.net/tournaments/scoresubmission.php)
- Contestant is solely responsible for submitting their own scores.
- DK arcade or DK MAME (US set 1) can both be used for score submissions (must use TG settings of 3 lives and a bonus life at 7000 points).
- Score submissions can be for any non-zero score.
- At the start of EACH new stream, contestant must state their full name (you no longer have to state your name before every single game).
- The entire game must be played only by the registered contestant who is identified at the beginning of the game.
- Bounties
   * Contestant is solely responsible for specifying which bounty they want to claim when they submit a score.
   * A contestant can only be paid for a maximum of 1 bounty for any one contest.
   * If a submitted game qualifies for more than 1 bounty, the contestant is solely responsible for specifying which bounty they are claiming and they can only claim a single bounty (and the refs will consider only the specified bounty for the score submission). For example, if I have a game where I am the first to a million points and a kill screen, I claim the million point bounty and the kill screen bounty remains open for other contestants to claim.
   * If a contestant tries to claim a bounty however is not awarded that bounty for some reason (i.e., they were incorrect about the bounty or another contestant's score submission invalidates their bounty claim), the contestant may try to claim another bounty on one of their next score submissions.
   * Bounties are considered in the order in which the score submissions are received.
   * Please remember that the bounty system was introduced for fun and to spread around some extra money to the contestants. Any disputes over the bounties will be settled accordingly by Eric/John.
- If any player is at Eric's or John’s house on the day of the contest, they may use our DK arcade machine for the tournament and we will act as a referee (as such, they do not need to submit their score via email, but the game will still be broadcasted on twitch.tv for everyone to see).
- Eric and John will be validating all scores and reserve the right to reject any score for any reason.
- Games started before the official contest start time (no matter how close to the official contest start time) will not be eligible.
- Games started after the official contest end time (no matter how close to the official contest end time) will not be eligible.
- Last game can be started any time before the official contest end time (no matter how close to the official contest end time).
- Scores can be submitted up until 4 hours past the official contest end time.
- NOTE: Any player who wants their scores to be included on the Donkey Kong High Score List will need to submit their performance to the Score Submissions thread and make sure they follow the List Submission Rules.
 - An "Unverified" category has been added to the Facebook score updates ONLY.  If we receive a picture of a final score, or a partial video with final score it it possible to at least have that score listed on the Facebook score updates, at the bottom, in the "Unverified" section. Theses scores will NOT be on any of the final lists or spreadsheets.  These scores will not count toward any standing, bounties or prizes.  This is being added so that players who cannot stream or have a problem with the stream can still participate and have fun.  Below are the rules for "Unverified" scores to be listed on the Facebook score updates ONLY.
1) Must be a legible picture or partial video of final score.
2) Must be submitted by a known member of the gaming community that has established integrity.
3) Must be voted on and approved, by majority vote, by our team of judges.
Number 2 is 100% objective and determined by each judge.  Judges are not required to explain their vote.

DK Arcade World Record Pot Rules
- At the end of the tournament, the pot goes to the contestant who beats the current WR score (must be obtained on an arcade machine; MAME does not count).
- If there are multiple contestants who beat the WR score within the same tournament, the pot goes to the contestant with the highest score.
- The contestant who wins the pot cannot collect any other prize money for the same tournament (top player positions or bounties).
- If nobody wins the pot, the pot carries over into the next tournament and increases by $100.
- Any contestant, including the current WR holder, is eligible to win the pot.
- The pot will initially start at $250 and will increase by $100 for each tournament where the pot is not collected. These donations are by Eric Tessler.
- Any contestant who wishes to donate more money to the pot, please contact Eric Tessler.

Prize Payouts
- Prize money will be issued in the exact amount stated, ONLY to the registered contestant.
- Prize money will be sent via PayPal or sent via U.S. post in the form of a registered money order, or check ONLY to the registered contestant.
- If the contestant rejects the prize acceptance guidelines, listed above, or chooses not to accept the prize, that money will be added to the next contest purse.
- Once a contestant wins prize money in a tournament (any type of prize money excluding bounties), they cannot win any more prize money for the following 2 tournaments (after the next 2 tournaments, that player will once again be allowed to win some prize money). This will allow different people to have a chance at winning some prize money.

Clarifications
- Kill screen: In order to qualify for a kill screen on 22-1, we must be able to see the jump man death that is caused by the kill screen itself (dying any other way will not count).
 
Closing Remarks
- Please remember, at the end of the day, this is for fun and to keep the community together.  Anyone who does not follow the rules, cheats, etc, will be removed from the contest, and possibly banded from all future contests.
- These guidelines can be changed at any time because Eric and John are in charge and are on a total power trip.
- Get practicing and good luck to all contestants 

Results for Donkey Kong Online Open #1
   Top 5 Winners
   1. Dave McCrary: 1,091,400: $200
   2. Robbie Lakeman: 1,075,500: $150
   3. Steve Wiltshire: 963,700: $100
   4. Mike Groesbeck: 953,800: $50
   5. Timothy Sczerby: 934,700: $25

   Bounty Winners
   - Longest first man: Ben Falls: 57 boards: $50
   - Longest last man: Steve Wiltshire: 70 boards: $50
   - Mystery bounty #1, 7th place: Chris Psaros: 911,700: $50
   - Mystery bounty #2, 27th place: Ken House: 241,100: $50

Results for Donkey Kong Online Open #2
   Top 3 Winners
   1. Ross Benziger: 1,067,700: $200
   2. Wes Copeland: 1,028,200: $150
   3. Jeff Harrist: 868,900: $100

   Bounty Winners
   - Longest first man: Graham Hawkins: 67 boards: $50
   - Longest last man: Timothy Sczerby: 49 boards: $50
   - 800k on first man: Ross Benziger: 982,300: $50
   - First million point game: Wes Copeland: 1,028,200: $50
   - Mystery bounty #1,  23rd place: Andrew Barrow: $50
   - Mystery bounty #2,  11th place: Martin Laing: $50
   - Mystery bounty #3,  36th place: Katherine Williams: $20
   - 1-1 high scores:
      - 1st: Robbie Lakeman: 12,100: $30   
      - 2nd: Mitchell Meerman: 8,400: $20

Results for Donkey Kong Online Open #3
   Top 3 Winners
   1. Ben Falls: 912,700: $200
   2. Jeff Willms: 894,400: $150
   3. Martin Laing: 894,100: $100

   Bounty Winners
   - Longest first man: Robbie Lakeman: 81 boards: $50
   - Longest last man: Jeff Wolfe: 33 boards: $50
   - Most improved score: Andrew Barrow: 301,900: $20
   - Mystery bounty #1, 12th place: Mick Winzeler: $50
   - Mystery bounty #2, 32nd place: Chuck Vess: $50

Results for Donkey Kong Online Open #4
   Top 3 Winners
   1. Corey Chambers: 1,029,100: $200
   2. Steve  Wiltshire: 1,021,600: $150
   3. Chris Psaros: 925,600: $100

   Bounty Winners
   - Most improved score: Mick Winzeler: $10
   - First time kill screen: Mike Kasper: $50
   - Mystery bounty #1, 1st score submission: Allan Staal: $50
   - Mystery bounty #2, last score submission: Mike Welsh: $50
   - Mystery bounty #3, 6th place: Jonathon McCourt: $50
   - Mystery bounty #4, 46th place: Jerica Queen: $50
   - 34th place: Jeremy Price: $34


Results for Donkey Kong Online Open #5
   Top 3 Winners
   1. Robbie Lakeman: 1,108,500: $200
   2. Dean Saglio: 1,103,700: $150
   3. Wes Copeland: 934,500: $100

   Bounty Winners
   - Most improved score: Johnny Bonde: $20 (Please collect money from Nick Sheils)
   - Mystery bounty #1, 31st place: Steven Kleisath: $50
   - Mystery bounty #2, 19th place: Ben Arnold: $50
   - Mystery bounty #3: 34th place Katherine Williams: DKF Mug (please contact Ethan Daniels for the prize)


Title: Re: Donkey Kong Online Open #5 for 2014
Post by: Ninglendo on October 07, 2014, 06:32:49 pm
I know I'm not the only one confused by this, but why am I banned?
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Online Open #5 for 2014
Post by: OzSteve71 on October 07, 2014, 06:57:49 pm
Might want to change the WR holder to Robbie Lakeman  <Allen>
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Online Open #5 for 2014
Post by: xelnia on October 07, 2014, 07:33:42 pm
Banned Players
- Rudy Ferretti (for obvious reasons)
- Glen Updike: player harassment
Note: The above mentioned players will not be allowed to register for the contests or submit scores.
Reminder: John Salter and I (Eric Tessler) reserve the right to ban any player for any reason (player harassment, cheating, misconduct of any kind, excessive complaining, etc).

For the record, I disagree with Glen's decision to discuss the merits of an Armor Attack marathon with John in his chat during the actual marathon. A time and a place, so on and so forth. However, it was hardly player harassment. Glen was originally banned from John's chat by David Cruz (after both questioning the scoreboard legitimacy of an AA marathon and commending the endurance and charitable aspects of the marathon), then unbanned several hours later and given a chance to explain himself, for which he was banned again. If you're concerned about harassment, you don't unban someone in your chat and give them the floor. However, "personal grudge" does fit within the "any reason" clause so ban your heart away.

Let's just remind everyone that Glen is banned for sharing his opinion at an inappropriate time, while Jason Corey Brittain is unbanned after using his wife's name and a voice modulator to create a false identity with the hopes of evading his DKO#4 ban.

FailFish
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Online Open #5 for 2014
Post by: KittyMcScratch on October 07, 2014, 07:54:58 pm
I would of thought that they'd warn glen before making this kind of decision.   I'm curious what they're refering to as "player harrassment".  If it is indeed the situation with John Salter, then I agree that it's hardly harrassment when they asked for glen to speak his side of things on the stream.  Granted, I only seen bits and pieces of that situation but I never seen glen ever say anything demeening about John, he just brought up the point that it didn't seem to fit in with tg guidelines for a marathon. 
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Online Open #5 for 2014
Post by: Ninglendo on October 07, 2014, 09:16:34 pm
I would like to apologize to John for expressing my concerns during his marathon. I do realize that it was neither the place or the time to do so. I could of handled myself a little better in that aspect. That being said I would like to point out a few things....

First off, I was personally attacked before I even said one word in John's chat. I was first informed about this via the shoutbox in this forum. I was told that John was saying that I was a "jealous hater". I then took the time to go into his stream and tell him personally that I didn't think he was a bad guy and that I respected the fact he was doing such a test of endurance for charity. The only concern I had is if he planned on submitting it to Twin Galaxies since the run (in my opinion) violates the point leeching rule. You may find the link here http://www.twingalaxies.com/showthread.php/109912-Official-TG-Policy-Leeching-v1-0-%28i-e-quot-Hunting-quot (http://www.twingalaxies.com/showthread.php/109912-Official-TG-Policy-Leeching-v1-0-%28i-e-quot-Hunting-quot)

After that I was banned... John said a couple of minutes later that he wanted to hear what I said. Hours later I was finally unbanned from the chat and I told him pretty much the same thing. I thought he was a good guy and that I respect what he was doing was for charity but I had a few concerns. I was banned moments later and what followed was the gamer sitting there and making personal attacks and calling me names. I do not see how I was "harassing" anyone. I do see that I made a mistake and mentioning my concerns during his run and I apologize. Other than that I don't see why this is fair. All I see is someone taking a situation personally when it doesn't have to be.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Online Open #5 for 2014
Post by: Ninglendo on October 07, 2014, 09:34:16 pm
Also if anyone would like to see the part where he rants on me here is the link http://www.twitch.tv/johnsalter/b/573554658 (http://www.twitch.tv/johnsalter/b/573554658) About 11:49:00 in That was the first time the second rant was even more harsh.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Online Open #5 for 2014
Post by: Ninglendo on October 07, 2014, 10:35:09 pm
Seems to be the original link I posted was deleted for some unknown or known reason. Care to explain?
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Online Open #5 for 2014
Post by: datagod on October 07, 2014, 10:44:00 pm
I know I am new to the DK world, I think I scored last place during open #4 (just played for fun).  I know that people have expressed their concerns over the helicopter bug, or glitch, or whatever in John Salter's recent Armour attack run. I saw part of what Glen typed (he expressed that he thinks John Salter is a good guy), and I saw that he posted his disagreement with the technique being used.

Glen was not foul, he was not rude, he was not repeating his message over and over.  He expressed his opinion.  I believe the timing was bad, but I certainly cannot see how it would be considered harassment.

People might not have the balls to stand up for a fellow gamer getting the raw deal, but I do.  Glen is a great guy.  He is passionate about high scores, and is protective of the hobby.    It is wrong to "lump him in with Rudy", or to call him a cancer in the gaming community, etc.

Banning him from these tournaments, while un-banning known cheaters...I really don't know what to say.  It seems ridiculous.

I guess you can ban me as well, because I am Glen's friend.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Online Open #5 for 2014
Post by: homerwannabee on October 08, 2014, 01:40:23 am
When I first saw this, I thought wow look at the excitement for the DK Online open 5! Lol

Just a suggestion, but maybe we can have the "Why did Glen get banned from the DK Open?" As a separate thread?
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Online Open #5 for 2014
Post by: stella_blue on October 08, 2014, 02:40:50 am
Stream Setup
- All contestants are required to stream their games on twitch.tv or Justin.tv. (NO EXCEPTIONS FOR ANY REASON).


Perhaps Justin.tv can be removed from the official rules, since it is no longer in service.

Title: Re: Donkey Kong Online Open #5 for 2014
Post by: Kibbey93 on October 08, 2014, 04:29:07 am
My cats breath smells like cat food.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Online Open #5 for 2014
Post by: f_symbols on October 08, 2014, 06:27:10 am
The bees taste like burning  BibleThump (@~30s)

The Simpsons - Funny Ralph Sayings (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKtwVGeS2sg#)
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Online Open #5 for 2014
Post by: Weehawk on October 08, 2014, 06:32:49 am
My cats breath smells like cat food.

My Dog Barks Some (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okoOe5ho3VM#ws)
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Online Open #5 for 2014
Post by: wolfman24 on October 08, 2014, 07:28:20 am
I don't mean any disrespect, but glen is banned for what i can believe is a personal attack on him, and jcb is bought back whom cheated, harassed player's daughter for prize money, and pretend to be someone else.
 FailFish
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Online Open #5 for 2014
Post by: Barra on October 08, 2014, 07:34:39 am
All I have to say:

Glen >>>(>.∞)>>> JCB
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Online Open #5 for 2014
Post by: homerwannabee on October 08, 2014, 07:43:49 am
This is exactly why I thought there should be a separate thread for the Glen Updike issue.  This thread is now filled with a bunch of garbage, and has almost nothing to do with the original post.  So please separate this into two different threads.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Online Open #5 for 2014
Post by: f_symbols on October 08, 2014, 07:56:52 am
 <Pigger>  ROFL

George, in all fairness, relax.  https://donkeykongforum.net/index.php?topic=954.0 (https://donkeykongforum.net/index.php?topic=954.0) Here is the "tourney announcement thread" from the DKOO4, notice how many replies it got.  I don't really think we are hiding, construing or detracting from anything here.  This page is basically serving as an announcement/clarification of questions/concerns or issues thread.  To that effect, the above "situation" is relevant to this thread.  There will be at least 2 more threads regarding DKOO5. 

The linear nature of threads allows one to correct a "derailment" with a single post in line with "correct usage",  I wouldn't get too caught up about ~1 page of fun.    <Tim>
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Online Open #5 for 2014
Post by: Shnypz on October 08, 2014, 08:03:30 am
Stream Setup
- All contestants are required to stream their games on twitch.tv or Justin.tv. (NO EXCEPTIONS FOR ANY REASON).


Perhaps Justin.tv can be removed from the official rules, since it is no longer in service.

Replace with hitbox? I haven't streamed in a while. Plan to get back at it soon (in the mist of another shitty playing phase). I'm guessing hitbox is still an acceptable streaming platform unless I'm missing something.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Online Open #5 for 2014
Post by: TheSunshineFund on October 08, 2014, 08:48:32 am
please separate this into two different threads.

This page is basically serving as an announcement/clarification of questions/concerns or issues thread.  To that effect, the above "situation" is relevant to this thread. 

 <Sanders> -- Council Riley, you have been overruled by Judge Daniels.  Defense, you may call your next witness....
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Online Open #5 for 2014
Post by: stella_blue on October 08, 2014, 11:52:33 am
The linear nature of threads allows one to correct a "derailment" with a single post

"Don't kid yourself, Jimmy.  If a cow ever got the chance, he'd eat you and everyone you care about."


Troy McClure Compilation (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtIpdvPDXQU)

Title: Re: Donkey Kong Online Open #5 for 2014
Post by: tessler1134 on October 08, 2014, 12:23:10 pm
In response to the public posts and private messages regarding the ban of Mr. Glen Updike from the Donkey Kong Online Opens, the following provides clarification and further support as to our decision to exclude specific individual participation. While it is disheartening for us to partake in any such exclusion of individual gamers, we strive to continue funding and scheduling such events with the utmost integrity and mutual respect for all, with the goal of further advancing the integrity, growth and respect of the gaming community.

We appreciate and value the great lengths individuals take to further our community, their gaming skills and the hopeful advancement, maturity and strength of the community. In accordance, our decision to exclude Mr. Updike from participation is not a result of his difference of opinion; we value the diversity of opinions in our community, and continue to support and encourage the positive and respectful expression of options.  However, when individuals take part in inappropriate player harassment or misconduct, both privately and publically, be it name-calling, personal attacks of any form or disrespectful behavior to individuals or the community as a whole, we have no choice but to exclude and distance this form of unwarranted, immature, and inappropriate behavior from the competitions.

This is not a decision we take lightly, and it pains us to do so, but our concern for the growth and respect of the gaming community is a paramount obligation we feel must be upheld. We will not participate in a public debate or further ridicule regarding our decision; our commitment to the integrity and future growth of the gaming community must be weighted against the threats and discord certain individuals hold.

Best of luck to all participants in the upcoming tournament!

Eric Tessler and John Salter
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Online Open #5 for 2014
Post by: xelnia on October 08, 2014, 12:36:43 pm
Can we cut it out with this passive aggressive, vaguebookery bullshit? Nobody ever says what they really feel or why they make certain decisions. Ditch the word salad and explain specifically what Glen did to get banned and what JCB did to get unbanned...and how having JCB allowed back in the DKO is indicative of your "commitment to the integrity and future growth of the gaming community." JCB is an admitted cheater (IGBY 2014) and impersonated a woman using his wife's name and a voice modulator in order to participate in DKO#4.

You don't have to engage in a public debate regarding your own tournaments, which I have enjoyed immensely, but this kind of response takes care of the "further ridicule" all by itself.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Online Open #5 for 2014
Post by: Barra on October 08, 2014, 12:41:14 pm
I think thats a fair response, and if you have your reasons then we have to accept that.

However, I'd like to point out the fact that JCB personally attacked/harassed me in the last DKO by accusing me of cheating. (Not to mention all the other crap he pulled off)
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Online Open #5 for 2014
Post by: Ninglendo on October 08, 2014, 12:49:32 pm
My question wasn't meant for John to take personally which he did. I wasn't the one name calling or making personal attacks. Even after he ripped into me on his stream after I was unbanned I still came back and told him I thought he was a good guy. Then I was banned again and sat there watching John make personal attacks without being able to defend myself. To me that seems more like "harassment"
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Online Open #5 for 2014
Post by: Ninglendo on October 08, 2014, 02:10:06 pm
http://www.twitch.tv/ninglendo/c/5259596 (http://www.twitch.tv/ninglendo/c/5259596) Since the original video link I posted got deleted here it is again.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Online Open #5 for 2014
Post by: fruitygayspaghetti on October 08, 2014, 04:57:27 pm
I don't see the misconduct on Glen's part.  I don't see anything wrong with questioning potential leeching issues during the marathon (as well as if the score was going to be submitted to TG.)  After spending plenty of time with AA, John should be adequately prepared to defend his gameplay. 


John lumping Glen into "that group of d-bags," calling him negative, accusing him of trying to shake off his affiliation with Rudy via hanging out with DK players, "a propagator of negativity in the scene," etc in the video Glen posted is childish.  The two of you having a conversation could solve this dramatic nonsense.


Furthermore, banning Glen over this incident is an utterly petulant way to handle it.  But it falls under the "any reason" clause.  So be it.

John's feelings got hurt so he's bullying Glen out of the competition while forgiving a cheater who's maniacally (and impressively) pissed off every person he's had contact with in the gaming community.  A perfect example of the integrity that you wish to promote.   FailFish
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Online Open #5 for 2014
Post by: xelnia on October 09, 2014, 10:36:28 am
Meanwhile, in Canada:

(http://i.imgur.com/hPDU9a1.png)
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Online Open #5 for 2014
Post by: tessler1134 on October 09, 2014, 11:49:17 am
I am happy to report that we have worked things out with Glen Updike and both him and John Salter are both unbanned and may participate in the DK contests. John Salter will make a post later on tonight explaining the details. Good luck to everyone in the upcoming tournament!
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Online Open #5 for 2014
Post by: Donkey Kong Genius on October 09, 2014, 12:01:27 pm
Awesome pic, Jeremy!  ROFL
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Online Open #5 for 2014
Post by: Weehawk on October 09, 2014, 12:16:24 pm
I am happy to report that we have worked things out with Glen Updike and both him and John Salter are both unbanned and may participate in the DK contests.

Good form, gentlemen.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Online Open #5 for 2014
Post by: xelnia on October 09, 2014, 12:20:25 pm
I am happy to report that we have worked things out with Glen Updike and both him and John Salter are both unbanned and may participate in the DK contests.

Good form, gentlemen.

+1
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Online Open #5 for 2014
Post by: Monstabonza on October 09, 2014, 05:58:19 pm
I am happy to report that we have worked things out with Glen Updike and both him and John Salter are both unbanned and may participate in the DK contests.

Good form, gentlemen.

+1

Ahh balance has returned
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Online Open #5 for 2014
Post by: JohnTheLawnMan on October 09, 2014, 08:46:00 pm
The older I get the less I give a shit what anyone thinks of me.  I know who I am and what I'm about and pretty much only worry about what I think of myself, cause in the end you can't hide from yourself.  These are the kind of dopey thoughts that start to go through your head as you get older...  I also don't really read or post on any forums or FB community pages like this anymore, due to the fact that things always get taken out of context or there's someone ready to take some miniscule part of a comment and blow it out of proportion, manipulate it and twist it to suite some nonsense argument or make someone look bad.  So over the last couple days I really haven't been following "Glenngate."  Just getting updates here and there from Eric about the latest nonsense lie or over exaggeration about us.

Then Glenn posted a clip from my AA marathon where I supposedly attacked him.  I say supposedly, because from what I watched of the clip, I didn't say anything about him.  I thought he grabbed the wrong clip, since I know I went off on him after he hijacked DataGod's "Joel West" post and turned it into a crap-on-John's-marathon post, which really pissed me off.  (There's a difference between having an opinion on the validity of a strategy and wording it to imply I'm a blatant cheater.)  Since the clip was from my twitch page, I deleted it and went about my business of not giving a shit.  Apparently things were heating up and eventually Glenn posted another link.  From what I was told, this clip did have the correct part where I went off on Glenn.  Not having a clue where to even find it, Eric sent me a link and I watched in dismay as I went way further in the rant as I originally thought.  As I watched I realized the things I was saying weren't even based on personally knowing Glenn, they were based on a few FB posts where Glenn was less than friendly, his previous association with Rudy and opinions and stories from others.  Even taking his marathon bashing post into consideration, I had no right to publicly say those things in general, let alone with no personal experience to back them up.  This is not who I am or who I want to be.  I let my temper and emotions get the best of me and fell into the trap of letting others influence my thoughts and decisions to the point where I publicly insulted a person I don't even know.

I called Glenn and we were able to iron things out man to man.  We agreed there was bad judgment on both sides.  It was a conversation that will stick with me a long time.  Glenn didn't really know me and I didn't really now him, so it would be easy to talk shit about each other and just blow it off and play tough guy.  But we both realize this isn't the way things should be in the scene.  People say and do dumb shit all the time, but instead of working it out they let it build up and cause more problems for more people.  We're not going that route.  We're going to actually take the time to have fun, play some games and get to know each other.  Maybe I am a cheater with zero integrity...  Maybe Glenn is a turd and a d-bag... But at least we'll figure it out ourselves and not let others determine who our friends or enemies are.

A few other personal issues have also been straightened out between Glenn, Eric and myself.  The funny thing is, it took all this bullshit to realize that most of the issues were misunderstandings and misinterpretations of each others actions.  Things were said back and forth in the heat of arguments and hurt feelings.  The word harassment gets thrown around a lot these days and we were guilty of abusing the word ourselves.  Non of these back and forth exchanges were harassing.  Just VERY heated conversation.

Thanks for taking the time to read this.  Hopefully you wont see another long post like this from me.  Ever.

-John
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Online Open #5 for 2014
Post by: OzSteve71 on October 10, 2014, 02:59:18 am
I am happy to report that we have worked things out with Glen Updike and both him and John Salter are both unbanned and may participate in the DK contests.

Good form, gentlemen.

+1


OUTSTANDING Gentlemen  8)
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Online Open #5 for 2014
Post by: Shnypz on October 10, 2014, 05:11:15 am
I am happy to report that we have worked things out with Glen Updike and both him and John Salter are both unbanned and may participate in the DK contests.

Good form, gentlemen.

+1


OUTSTANDING Gentlemen  8)

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Title: Re: Donkey Kong Online Open #5 for 2014
Post by: danman123456 on October 10, 2014, 08:27:23 am
Great to read this. John/Glenn/all

We should all be able to discuss topics with each other and even get into some "heated" discussions with each other but always keep it civil and realize that it should never be personal.

I got nothing but love for all of ya so just remember that when I say "Hey there buck-o".

BibleThump

:D
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Online Open #5 for 2014
Post by: marky_d on October 10, 2014, 09:00:21 am
:)
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Online Open #5 for 2014
Post by: fruitygayspaghetti on October 10, 2014, 09:56:47 am
got 'em.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Online Open #5 for 2014
Post by: Barra on October 10, 2014, 10:05:48 am
Love it mates
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Online Open #5 for 2014
Post by: MickyWinz on October 10, 2014, 10:16:57 am
I'm just hyped to have #5 next month!  Can't wait to play :)
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Online Open #5 for 2014
Post by: Ninglendo on October 10, 2014, 10:22:22 am
I am really glad we all took the time to settle our differences and explain ourselves over the phone. We both know we made mistakes, but we forgive each other and are willing to become friends now. To me that is all that matters. It is simple to let emotions get the best of you especially when you don't know the guy and that is the biggest mistake we made. Glad that this has ended and can be put behind us. Thanks again John for taking the time to call me. It was the best decision both of us made during this whole mess.  :)
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Online Open #5 for 2014
Post by: Xermon54 on October 10, 2014, 12:09:38 pm
Every love story starts with a fight. I think it's the beginning of a bromance between John and Glen  <Allen> Kappa
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Online Open #5 for 2014
Post by: arnthestampede on October 11, 2014, 10:52:53 am
I'm interested in competing, however I play on a DK replica cab running the jamma 60-1, is this okay?
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Online Open #5 for 2014
Post by: WCopeland on October 11, 2014, 11:26:10 am
Yep that will be okay. Scores have been submitted using a 60-in-1 in previous tournaments.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Online Open #5 for 2014
Post by: ChrisP on October 11, 2014, 08:00:30 pm
Readjusting my monitor is kind of a pain in the butt when swapping between my DK PCB and the 60-in-1. (The 60-in-1 needs more brightness, and adjustments to the RGB drive pots.)

So I might go 60-in-1 for the next tourney too.  ;D

Considering it at least.

At this point, my HS kit has my top 5 PBs on it! If I break one of my top 5s, but I do it it on the 60 in 1, oh dear... my OCD will be perturbed...
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Online Open #5 for 2014
Post by: Donkey Kong Genius on October 11, 2014, 08:17:37 pm
I hear it!  8)
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Online Open #5 for 2014
Post by: JohnTheLawnMan on October 13, 2014, 01:53:25 pm
Metal Stan always hogs the dedicated DK in my arcade during the tournaments, so I had to pull the LCD out of my 60-1 and install a CRT.  The LCD had sync lag with many of the games, DK being one of them.  Plays super nice with CRT.  Plus the LCD looked like @$$ anyway.  Also had to tweak the joystick to so it wouldn't bounce back in the opposite direction.  Plays pretty damn good now.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Online Open #5 for 2014
Post by: AJ_Coleman92 on November 05, 2014, 07:15:47 pm
Jumping in... Twitch user is rockybalboa92.. I'm fairly new only been playing 6 months.. Already 134k
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Online Open #5 for 2014
Post by: tessler1134 on November 05, 2014, 07:55:53 pm
rockybalboa92 - please register using the following link, thanks!

https://donkeykongforum.net/tournaments/registration.php (https://donkeykongforum.net/tournaments/registration.php)
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Online Open #5 for 2014
Post by: Donkey Kong Genius on November 06, 2014, 04:44:23 pm
I will register my son Jordan Chambers on the same link as mine.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Online Open #5 for 2014
Post by: elierodrigue on November 07, 2014, 03:26:54 pm
Can se submit score made on a Pc with mame and played on a keyboard? If so, what is the video stream requirement? Do you need to see the screen in the webcam or does a webcam stream embedded in a screen recording work?

Thx
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Online Open #5 for 2014
Post by: Donkey Kong Genius on November 07, 2014, 03:44:49 pm
Read the instructions here: https://donkeykongforum.net/index.php?topic=1071.0 (https://donkeykongforum.net/index.php?topic=1071.0)

You can use MAME and play it with a keyboard. Whether you use a webcam or screen capture with OBS or other streaming software you must stream live and the whole screen seen with visible score.

If you have questions about setting up mame or getting started with streaming software you can consult the following:

http://wiki.donkeykonggenius.com/Getting_Started#How_to_setup_WolfMAME_.106_Guide.3F (http://wiki.donkeykonggenius.com/Getting_Started#How_to_setup_WolfMAME_.106_Guide.3F)
http://wiki.donkeykonggenius.com/Getting_Started#How_to_Stream_Donkey_Kong_Live.3F (http://wiki.donkeykonggenius.com/Getting_Started#How_to_Stream_Donkey_Kong_Live.3F)

You should have all the information you need.