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Kosmic's "After 44 Years, Someone Beat The Donkey Kong Kill Screen"

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JNugent:
I thought this would be good for some DK discussion.  I'm rarely here anymore, but enjoy watching DK news from afar.

Well done, Kosmic!

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoTQ53iM8c0

tilt:
All this played out on the Kong League discord server! A wonderful showing from Kosmic and loved the JC credit at the end <3

Generating a new invite link for anyone who wants to join here (Don't make me regret this...): https://discord.gg/VKuhe5H

Ohrami:
This was all figured out, like, 5-10 years ago, right? I know for a fact that I've seen people, perhaps expandedidea or Xelnia, stating that the true kill-screen is the rivet board of level 22 because of the fact that you can do the climbing glitch. I know for a fact that the delay was already considered by them, and they recognized it as being necessary to pass the kill-screen, and they also recognized that the kill-screen glitch would make the springs slow as well as the fact that the factory stage can be completed quickly enough to ensure that one can finish on time, even with the restriction of the massively limited timer on level 22. I feel this title, as well as the video's contents, are highly misleading. While it may never have been done in practice using a TAS or frame advance, the knowledge that this was possible has been there for at least 5 years.

Once I realized the video was just talking about a TAS, and not a human-viable strategy that was actually achieved in real time, I immediately thought, "So, is he just going to do the climbing glitch with Kong having a delayed barrel release?" And that is exactly what we saw, indicating this was not new, unknown information.

Kosmic:

--- Quote from: Ohrami on February 01, 2025, 11:26:03 am ---This was all figured out, like, 5-10 years ago, right? I know for a fact that I've seen people, perhaps expandedidea or Xelnia, stating that the true kill-screen is the rivet board of level 22 because of the fact that you can do the climbing glitch. I know for a fact that the delay was already considered by them, and they recognized it as being necessary to pass the kill-screen, and they also recognized that the kill-screen glitch would make the springs slow as well as the fact that the factory stage can be completed quickly enough to ensure that one can finish on time, even with the restriction of the massively limited timer on level 22. I feel this title, as well as the video's contents, are highly misleading. While it may never have been done in practice using a TAS or frame advance, the knowledge that this was possible has been there for at least 5 years.

Once I realized the video was just talking about a TAS, and not a human-viable strategy that was actually achieved in real time, I immediately thought, "So, is he just going to do the climbing glitch with Kong having a delayed barrel release?" And that is exactly what we saw, indicating this was not new, unknown information.

--- End quote ---

Xelnia told me after JC made his video of trying it on the kill screen, "nobody really put a second thought into pursuing the potential." Even if it was still theorized to be possible at some point, all of the details and the actual execution of it are new. What contents of the video are highly misleading? Some people claimed you could make DK pause forever, but couldn't explain how it worked or show it in action. We figured out the precise mechanism and explained it and showed it in action. No one came forward with any video of someone making it up, only videos of getting close. This is the first evidence I have seen of actually beating the barrel stage. The video explains how the game works and the story of what happened last month, and also how it was looked into in 2013 but didn't amount to anything back then. I don't see how it's misleading? If you can share a video or post from someone actually completing it prior to last month, or breaking down DK's barrel release timings, I'll add an update in a comment/description. This post feels quite pointed to me; the video is very much a love letter to the game and the community

VON:
Yeah, I really don't know why Ohrami is being pissy. You did a great job, sir. The video put a big smile on my face.

While we're at it, who is gonna TAS-exploit DK's barrel delay to infinitely leech a fireball? 10 million, go!

Edit: 500th post hype Kreygasm

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