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General Donkey Kong Discussion => Donkey Kong Milestone Achievements => Topic started by: marinomitch13 on September 04, 2013, 08:45:19 pm

Title: Kongrats to Dean Saglio on his 1,186,700 MAME World Record!!!
Post by: marinomitch13 on September 04, 2013, 08:45:19 pm
All. The. Way.

EDIT: This game was a KS too.
Title: Re: Kongrats to Dean Saglio on his 1,186,700 MAME World Record!!!
Post by: tudose on September 04, 2013, 08:48:39 pm
love it. got em. Kappa. Kreygasm. #notposerpace. yer buddy 8)

congrats, dean! youre an absolute monster
Title: Re: Kongrats to Dean Saglio on his 1,186,700 MAME World Record!!!
Post by: f_symbols on September 04, 2013, 08:50:16 pm
Dean you are the man.  You had OVER 150 viewers when you hit level 22.  Congratulations, you've earned it.  Now, you better get back on the horse and up your pace :D
Title: Re: Kongrats to Dean Saglio on his 1,186,700 MAME World Record!!!
Post by: Drunkguy89 on September 04, 2013, 08:51:57 pm
Best game iv'e seen, Congrats Dean  8)
Title: Re: Kongrats to Dean Saglio on his 1,186,700 MAME World Record!!!
Post by: Xermon54 on September 04, 2013, 08:58:32 pm
Dean has been my Donkey Kong inspiration for more than 4 years. He deserves that score! And to get that score with only 6k for his deaths is insane! Wether or not you hit 1.2m one day, 1,186,700 is without a doubt an insane score to be proud of!

It's important to have skills in Donkey Kong, but dedication is definitely the most important aspect, and Dean proved it! YER BUDDY!

1,167m was in reach for some players, but 1,186,700 will DEFINITELY be extremely hard for anyone to try for that pace, let alone beat it  ;). Hail to the King of King! (I don't know what "Hail" means, I just love the term, so hopefully it fits in the text, lol)
Title: Re: Kongrats to Dean Saglio on his 1,186,700 MAME World Record!!!
Post by: homerwannabee on September 04, 2013, 09:00:16 pm
Huge major props to Dean.  Also thanks to Mitch as well.  I decided to check out Dean's stream when he posted it on Facebook.   If it wasn't for him I don't know if I would have been able to see the final 8 levels!
Title: Re: Kongrats to Dean Saglio on his 1,186,700 MAME World Record!!!
Post by: marinomitch13 on September 04, 2013, 09:02:14 pm
Huge major props to Dean.  Also thanks to Mitch as well.  I decided to check out Dean's stream when he posted it on Facebook.   If it wasn't for him I don't know if I would have been able to see the final 8 levels!

I just had a feeling about that game. Like my post said, I felt like I'd regret it if I didn't post it early enough for others to enjoy the possible experience. The possible, in this case, was made actual! Lovit, Dean!!!
Title: Re: Kongrats to Dean Saglio on his 1,186,700 MAME World Record!!!
Post by: up2ng on September 04, 2013, 09:15:47 pm
Thanks guys!  WOOHOO!!

Wow, over 150 viewers?  That's WAY more than I thought and I'm pretty sure that's the most I've ever had.  Thanks to everyone for your support, it definitely helps!  This is a great community and hopefully it stays this way.

I'll post more in here once I get a chance to think straight about the game.  My brain is so fried now.

Woot!
Title: Re: Kongrats to Dean Saglio on his 1,186,700 MAME World Record!!!
Post by: Shane_NC on September 04, 2013, 09:22:33 pm
I am glad / honored that I could watch a major part of DK history live. What a great game! I hope 1.2m is back on the table, well done dean its epic to see DK played at THAT high of a level.
Title: Re: Kongrats to Dean Saglio on his 1,186,700 MAME World Record!!!
Post by: JNugent on September 04, 2013, 09:28:23 pm
Congratulations, Dean!  Thanks to Adam and Acrjoey for letting me know you were streaming.  I started watching around 190k, and watched the rest of the game on the edge of my seat, biting my nails.  This was an epic performance, and I too feel honored to have watched an important part of gaming history.  You are a beast, and 1.2m is next, no doubt.  Yer Buddy!
Title: Re: Kongrats to Dean Saglio on his 1,186,700 MAME World Record!!!
Post by: Bliss1083 on September 04, 2013, 10:06:35 pm
Can't wait to get home and watch tonight! Congrats Dean! Taking the pace down to 1.19 really help you that much? I just noticed you dropped to 1.19 the other day and now this.
Title: Re: Kongrats to Dean Saglio on his 1,186,700 MAME World Record!!!
Post by: VON on September 04, 2013, 10:08:50 pm
Congratulations!  Your largeness is indeed huge sir.

Can't wait to see a breakdown of the stats.
Title: Re: Kongrats to Dean Saglio on his 1,186,700 MAME World Record!!!
Post by: Fast Eddie on September 04, 2013, 11:42:46 pm
EPIC Dean! shame i missed it...

 8)
Title: Re: Kongrats to Dean Saglio on his 1,186,700 MAME World Record!!!
Post by: Barra on September 05, 2013, 12:01:29 am
Congrats buddy!
Title: Re: Kongrats to Dean Saglio on his 1,186,700 MAME World Record!!!
Post by: Graham Wolfe on September 05, 2013, 12:05:52 am
congrats, thats some serious playing
Title: Re: Kongrats to Dean Saglio on his 1,186,700 MAME World Record!!!
Post by: Jonesy on September 05, 2013, 12:35:34 am
WOW!

Talk about havin' it LARGE!!

Congrats!
Title: Re: Kongrats to Dean Saglio on his 1,186,700 MAME World Record!!!
Post by: stella_blue on September 05, 2013, 03:48:21 am
Congratulations!  Your largeness is indeed huge sir.

Can't wait to see a breakdown of the stats.

I'm on it, Ross!

Title: Re: Kongrats to Dean Saglio on his 1,186,700 MAME World Record!!!
Post by: TheSunshineFund on September 05, 2013, 04:45:29 am
love it. got em. Kappa. Kreygasm. #notposerpace. yer buddy 8)

congrats, dean! youre an absolute monster

This.

Congrats Dean.
Title: Re: Kongrats to Dean Saglio on his 1,186,700 MAME World Record!!!
Post by: lifereboot on September 05, 2013, 05:45:23 am
Grats Dean!
Title: Re: Kongrats to Dean Saglio on his 1,186,700 MAME World Record!!!
Post by: mikegmi2 on September 05, 2013, 05:58:29 am
GG Dean!
Title: Re: Kongrats to Dean Saglio on his 1,186,700 MAME World Record!!!
Post by: danman123456 on September 05, 2013, 06:35:47 am
What else is there to say. Monster game sir.
Title: Re: Kongrats to Dean Saglio on his 1,186,700 MAME World Record!!!
Post by: Svavar on September 05, 2013, 06:38:29 am
OH MY GOD!!

Congratulations Dean! A truly great accomplishment!... Words can't even describe...

You are an inspiration
Title: Re: Kongrats to Dean Saglio on his 1,186,700 MAME World Record!!!
Post by: marky_d on September 05, 2013, 06:44:15 am
I agree...awesome score!
Title: Re: Kongrats to Dean Saglio on his 1,186,700 MAME World Record!!!
Post by: Rick Fothergill on September 05, 2013, 07:05:21 am
Way to go Dean, I know how hard you have been trying to beat the 1 167 400, unfortunately I missed this one, anybody have a guess as to how many attempts it took for the record to fall, also how many first man to level 5 starts to break the record?
Title: Re: Kongrats to Dean Saglio on his 1,186,700 MAME World Record!!!
Post by: corey.chambers on September 05, 2013, 07:07:31 am
You are indeed the real deal Dean. If I could play half as good as you I would be twice the player I am today.
Title: Re: Kongrats to Dean Saglio on his 1,186,700 MAME World Record!!!
Post by: konghusker on September 05, 2013, 07:34:13 am
You are the man dean. Good job.
Title: Re: Kongrats to Dean Saglio on his 1,186,700 MAME World Record!!!
Post by: hchien on September 05, 2013, 08:07:49 am
Crazy score!  I only caught the end of it and I started having heart palpatations.

Next stop is 1.2M! 
Title: Re: Kongrats to Dean Saglio on his 1,186,700 MAME World Record!!!
Post by: stella_blue on September 05, 2013, 08:53:33 am

Kongrats indeed!  Epic game, Dean.

I regret not being there to witness the historic moment live (early bedtime), but I did watch the INP playback first thing this morning.  It was a nice way to commemorate the 34th anniversary of my first Grateful Dead concert (09/05/79 at Madison Square Garden).

The game summary has been compiled and posted.  You guys can find it here:

Dean Saglio 1,186,700 (L22-1) on 09/04/13 (https://donkeykongforum.net/index.php?topic=304.msg9166#msg9166)

Unprecedented huuuujosity!  Yeah, that's a real word.  Look it up.   ::)

Title: Re: Kongrats to Dean Saglio on his 1,186,700 MAME World Record!!!
Post by: Jeffw on September 05, 2013, 09:07:30 am
Huge congrats, Dean! It's too bad I missed this game. I'm sure you will get that 1.2m eventually.
Title: Re: Kongrats to Dean Saglio on his 1,186,700 MAME World Record!!!
Post by: up2ng on September 05, 2013, 10:43:39 am
Thanks again everyone!  It was a lot of fun finally getting this done on my stream with so many viewers online watching and able to enjoy the moment with me.  For an online / MAME player, that's as close to the equivalent of a large crowd forming behind your arcade machine when something big is about to happen as we can get.  It definitely helps to ramp up the excitement that's for sure.

Thanks to Andrew G. for apparently throwing a whole bunch of viewers my way towards the end of my game.

Thanks to Corey for finding and uploading my .inp file here:

https://donkeykongforum.net/index.php?topic=364.msg9160;topicseen#msg9160 (https://donkeykongforum.net/index.php?topic=364.msg9160;topicseen#msg9160)

Thanks to Scott for his quick and accurate and detailed summary of the stats for this game here:

https://donkeykongforum.net/index.php?topic=304.msg9166#msg9166 (https://donkeykongforum.net/index.php?topic=304.msg9166#msg9166)

That will make it easier to talk details about the game...

As I mentioned at the end of my stream last night, the game felt a little unusual (besides the score of course) in a few ways.

Looking at the stats, the most obvious issue was the small amount of points gained with lost men.  In the past, I had actually been aborting a lot of my games that featured a second "bad death", especially one that comes quickly after the first death like what happened here.  But, since I recently downgraded my goal to 1.19 million AND since I had an extremely strong start for that pace goal, I decided to play it out.  You can see that I immediately tightened up and played very unrelaxed for the next several Levels, scoring under 60,000 in 3 out of the next 5 Levels.  I found the groove again for a little bit after that but was soon running into the "fatigue factor" just a short while later.  Levels 16 - 21 scored about like I would expect on a game that goes that deep, the scoring rate being significantly lower than it was, say, during Levels 4 - 9.  It's hard to explain what exactly happens when you become "fatigued" during these types of games, but it becomes a very serious challenge that you just try to push through as best as you can without dying and that often results in a small decline in the scoring pace.

Sort of on a related note, dying 3 times on non-barrel boards is pretty unusual for me these days as well -- I almost always have one or more barrel deaths, some of which are "good deaths" where a fireball gets to the top and you get to basically sacrifice the man for maximum points.  I didn't have any of those in this game, which is somewhat unusual.  Obviously, dying on an Elevator board is very unusual as well.

Another detail that's a bit strange is the wide variety of Level scores -- they were really all over the place in this game, which is rare.  Most of my good games lately just don't have any really bad Levels.  This game had a totally catastrophic 54,400 Level and 3 other sub-59,000 point Levels.  That would seem like a poor game for me until I see that I also had SIX Levels of OVER 63,000 points!  That's equally surprising.  Generally I might expect all of the Levels in a full game to fall somewhere inside that 59,000 - 63,000 point window, so the way this one played out was interesting.

Overall, I'm pleased with the final Level average of 61,000 points.  That's right around what I had estimated that I should be able to sustain for a full game.  It's funny, because with each of the board type averages, none of them really stand out.  I have done significantly better than that in each of those 4 categories in different games and yet these particular numbers all add up to 61,000 which is a good result.

Well, that's all I can think of for now.  Looking forward to at least a small break from this game!
Title: Re: Kongrats to Dean Saglio on his 1,186,700 MAME World Record!!!
Post by: marinomitch13 on September 05, 2013, 12:28:07 pm
Wow! I did not realize that you had a level as low as 54,400! I can't remember what actually took place on that level too make it so low... was that the one where you had a screwing on the Conveyor Stage? I know you had a later stage where you had a screwing of about 500 points on the Elevators -that was kinda unusual in itself.
Title: Re: Kongrats to Dean Saglio on his 1,186,700 MAME World Record!!!
Post by: ChrisP on September 05, 2013, 12:39:36 pm
I love how Dean refers to a 54,400 point level (which would have me quietly and smugly doing the Wiebe pose, and which is more points than I will ever get in any level in any run ever) as "totally catastrophic."
Title: Re: Kongrats to Dean Saglio on his 1,186,700 MAME World Record!!!
Post by: Bliss1083 on September 05, 2013, 02:20:57 pm
Yeah most anyone else would brag about the 54,400 level. Lol. It's actually less grouping with the barrel boards at the top and like going straight from the bottom hammer to the top hammer with just a few 300 jumps. I don't see dean doing that but I see maybe having a bad rivet/pie being the main factor.
Title: Re: Kongrats to Dean Saglio on his 1,186,700 MAME World Record!!!
Post by: Svavar on September 05, 2013, 02:35:45 pm
My pace is usually catastrophic these days  :'(
Title: Re: Kongrats to Dean Saglio on his 1,186,700 MAME World Record!!!
Post by: hchien on September 05, 2013, 02:55:11 pm
Wow! I did not realize that you had a level as low as 54,400!

This is pretty much expected...

every long game has a level or 2 where you just get completely hosed and score 5K less than what you think you can average.

Still 61K is a crazy level average especially since it was a toned down game.
Title: Re: Kongrats to Dean Saglio on his 1,186,700 MAME World Record!!!
Post by: stella_blue on September 05, 2013, 03:25:21 pm
Yeah most anyone else would brag about the 54,400 level. Lol. It's actually less grouping with the barrel boards at the top and like going straight from the bottom hammer to the top hammer with just a few 300 jumps. I don't see dean doing that but I see maybe having a bad rivet/pie being the main factor.

The L10-1 barrels (9900 points) was the lowest score of all L05+ barrel boards, and 1 of only 3 that dipped below 11K.  The L10-2 conveyors (6100) and L10-6 rivets (6000) were both 2K less than the average (8100) for those stages.

It's comforting to the rest of us that, for a brief period of 10-12 minutes, Dean was a poser.   :)

Title: Re: Kongrats to Dean Saglio on his 1,186,700 MAME World Record!!!
Post by: d3scride on September 09, 2013, 09:17:23 pm
Youtube link for anyone interested in watching: Dean Saglio 1,186,700 Donkey Kong MAME  (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqkoIJ9kpn0#)
Title: Re: Kongrats to Dean Saglio on his 1,186,700 MAME World Record!!!
Post by: Bliss1083 on September 11, 2013, 05:27:28 pm
Yeah Stella I Seen your analysis. I believe you did it anyways that showed all the levels. I believe that. I tallied up the worst boards pie, elevator, rivet, and took his 9900 barrel board for all three boards and his level was still at 47k or so. Which is pretty awesome considering that would be your worst possible level and mind you I just took the worst board of the barrel stage and not the three worst which were I'm sure in the 10k area. He was still at his worst pace over 900k for kill screen average. With 100k start. If you tallied my worst levels I'd be around 30k or so probably. Lol.
Title: Re: Kongrats to Dean Saglio on his 1,186,700 MAME World Record!!!
Post by: Xermon54 on September 11, 2013, 09:38:07 pm
3h15? Damn, that's 17 minutes longer than my PB. I wonder if doing a 3h30 run is possible on 1.2m+ pace (on a 100k pace, it's probably possible to get a 4h30 game long by wasting time on every boards, but that's another story! ;-)).
Title: Re: Kongrats to Dean Saglio on his 1,186,700 MAME World Record!!!
Post by: Zetherman on September 12, 2013, 01:21:03 am
wow amazing score !
Title: Re: Kongrats to Dean Saglio on his 1,186,700 MAME World Record!!!
Post by: ChrisP on September 12, 2013, 01:56:22 am
http://donkeykongblog.blogspot.com/2013/09/saglio-pushes-donkey-kong-to-breaking.html (http://donkeykongblog.blogspot.com/2013/09/saglio-pushes-donkey-kong-to-breaking.html)

(If you wanna comment please do it there, thanks! Or there AND here, but definitely there. Commenting on the blog means you are not a poser...)
Title: Re: Kongrats to Dean Saglio on his 1,186,700 MAME World Record!!!
Post by: stella_blue on September 12, 2013, 02:27:31 am
http://donkeykongblog.blogspot.com/2013/09/saglio-pushes-donkey-kong-to-breaking.html (http://donkeykongblog.blogspot.com/2013/09/saglio-pushes-donkey-kong-to-breaking.html)

(If you wanna comment please do it there, thanks! Or there AND here, but definitely there. Commenting on the blog means you are not a poser...)

Done.  Still a poser, though . . . by choice.   8)

Title: Re: Kongrats to Dean Saglio on his 1,186,700 MAME World Record!!!
Post by: Xermon54 on September 12, 2013, 06:58:17 am
Quote
Done.  Still a poser, though . . . by choice.   


You can't be a poser by choice. A poser is born a poser, and will die a poser. It's in your DNA, you have it or you don't!  ;).
Title: Re: Kongrats to Dean Saglio on his 1,186,700 MAME World Record!!!
Post by: stella_blue on September 12, 2013, 07:49:53 am

You can't be a poser by choice. A poser is born a poser, and will die a poser. It's in your DNA, you have it or you don't!  ;).


Vincent Lemay biochemistry.  Just when I thought I'd seen everything.   :)

Title: Re: Kongrats to Dean Saglio on his 1,186,700 MAME World Record!!!
Post by: danman123456 on September 12, 2013, 12:10:32 pm
I have special DNA. I'm like Meridith Brooks I can be all kinds of things. Or better yet my mom said I could be anything i wanted to be! Poser or Champion or BOTH! :D