Donkey Kong Forum

Donkey Kong Strategy => Basic Donkey Kong Strategy => Topic started by: corey.chambers on May 12, 2013, 12:26:18 am

Title: Donkey Kong Training Videos
Post by: corey.chambers on May 12, 2013, 12:26:18 am
DONKEY KONG TRAINING VIDEOS

In the upcoming months I will be coming out with a series of at least 4 videos where I will demonstrate and explain each of the 4 screens on the Arcade game Donkey Kong. This list of Donkey Kong Training Videos will be updated as they become available.

[noembed]Rivet Training Video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVmX80UX5Ec)[/noembed]

The Rivet Training Video was the first installment in this series and was the first attempt at the video making process. It was uploaded to Youtube on May 18, 2013, with a running time of 19:07.

[noembed]Barrel Training Video Part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IZCD21qXx8)[/noembed]

[noembed]Barrel Training Video Part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLcH-B5nn2M)[/noembed]

Barrel Training Video - Still under-construction! Release date: no later than July 10th, 2013. With a potential running time of over an hour, this video will start with a time index for easy reference.

The Barrel Training Video, second in the series, is the most comprehensive of all the videos and was the first video to incorporate graphs and edited screenshots along with all the original format which was used in the Rivet Training Video.

This video will include the earlier analysis of how to recognize grouping possibilities under Kong.

#1   normal, normal, wild, normal  XX_X  When you see a wild barrel followed by the two normal ones forming the X__X form, then immediately run to far left and do the last minute wall jump from the left edge of the ladder. Wild barrel means wild wall jump! Or you can just wait and time the jumps correctly!

#2   normal, normal, pause, normal X_X__X Jump over the X_X as usual, back jump the second one, either go down ladder to do it again or reset at left pole of ladder. You have to force the first X down next to X__X to make this work. Sometimes that X won’t come down but I execute the jump over, and jump back as usual to be consistent.

#3   normal, normal, normal, normal X__XX This is one of the ones that I move right a bit just over the middle of the ladder and jump straight up like I do with the XX configuration, so I am using the same maneuver as much as possible. When in the air control that last X down and then straight jump again. You will get used to the lack of pause in this scenario and the fact that as you are jumping the first barrel one is ready to be controlled down.

#4   normal, normal, normal, pause X__X__X  In this variation you do the same maneuver by moving right to the middle of the ladder and do a straight jump, you will sense a pause and the fact that there is not a barrel to be readily controlled while you are in the air, so when you land you just do a back jump to your original position. You can die on this jump back if a wild barrel is thrown but this is rare.

As you can see two normals are required to set up X__X, it happens when the first normal runs off the edge of the 6th girder and the second comes down the short ladder forming X__X, when you see this without an immediate pause or wild barrel then prep with the adjust right and straight jump, then follow either point 3 or 4 depending on the pause or absence of pause.
Title: Re: Rivet Training Video
Post by: f_symbols on May 12, 2013, 03:34:20 pm
This is a great summary video Corey. It would be super helpful for anyone who is unfamilair with, or struggles on, the Rivets; you did a good job with the "basic" strategies and also gave a handful of the useful little extra's (like jumping at the edge of an open rivet) that can really make the difference.

Thanks Buddy!  I think this should go in the Basic Strategy Section also, because any "new" DK player could really benefit from this comprehensive crash course.
Title: Re: Rivet Training Video
Post by: corey.chambers on May 12, 2013, 06:37:21 pm
I was streaming this evening and was showing another player some ideas on the Rivet stage and decided to post it here for people to see.  http://www.twitch.tv/clchambers00/c/2272597 (http://www.twitch.tv/clchambers00/c/2272597)
When I get better at making videos, with edits, etc, one day I would like to make a comprehensive video of each of the levels. A nice compact video with all the good ideas and tricks. I am sure someone else may beat me to it since I don't know how to edit videos and make things look nice. Yes, I agree with your suggestion, it may be better placed on the Basic thread. I am not sure how to move it, but if someone can then I would support it.
Title: Re: Rivet Training Video
Post by: corey.chambers on May 16, 2013, 07:11:21 pm
Here is the Beta version of a video I am still working on. http://www.twitch.tv/clchambers00/c/2293975 (http://www.twitch.tv/clchambers00/c/2293975) I streamed what I have so far. I wanted to get some reflections and ideas. It is still unfinished and needs some more additions and editing. Please let me know what works, and what doesn't. What should be in there that isn't etc. I want to do some more work on it, get it finalized, and then post it to my youtube channel. I am planning on doing a video for each of the levels. These are designed to help new players improve their scores and to become familiar with the game. In addition to the 4 training videos I will be placing my killscreen game and my 800K two hammer score as well, with a video on how to download and set up WolfMAME, get the rom to work, and the basics on how to play on MAME. I like the idea of helping newer players do well, and get interested in the game. Please check out my video, let me know any ideas I can add to it. I want to be exhaustive and do it right the first time. Thank you all in advance for any help.
Title: Re: Rivet Training Video
Post by: Monstabonza on May 16, 2013, 07:41:29 pm
I've gotta say thanks mate, your stand near kong jump the fireball and run down a ladder got me outta trouble last night, never thought of that till I saw your vid.
Title: Re: Rivet Training Video
Post by: mikegmi2 on May 17, 2013, 06:15:04 am
Who actually did this first?  Dean was the first person I saw do this move...can anyone take credit for having done it first?  Just curious, probably impossible to say...but indeed its a great move that actually works more than 50% of the time.

Title: Re: Rivet Training Video
Post by: corey.chambers on May 17, 2013, 06:52:51 am
Thanks. To be honest I don't remember where I first saw the jump from Kong's foot.
Title: Re: Rivet Training Video
Post by: marinomitch13 on May 17, 2013, 10:13:06 am
but indeed its a great move that actually works more than 50% of the time.

Yeah, this is uncanny. I think it works so well, mainly because of the nature of where fireballs are able to turn around. Dean has said something about how, most the time, fireballs need to go a certain distance before they can turn around again; and that, because of this, the likelihood of jumping them is actually increased in areas -especially at the edge of platforms.
Title: Re: Rivet Training Video
Post by: danman123456 on May 17, 2013, 10:54:30 am
I actually did that jump move from the platform and not kongs foot out of necessity one time :) Don't recall ever seeing it from someone before I did it but I could have and just didn't think anything about it.
Title: Re: Rivet Training Video
Post by: stella_blue on May 17, 2013, 02:33:43 pm
Who actually did this first?  Dean was the first person I saw do this move...can anyone take credit for having done it first?  Just curious, probably impossible to say...but indeed its a great move that actually works more than 50% of the time.

I'll help you get to the bottom of this, Mike.

I've used that move on a number of occasions, but I didn't create it.  So you can rule me out.   ;)

Title: Re: Rivet Training Video
Post by: marky_d on May 17, 2013, 02:47:51 pm
The first time I saw it done, it was Dean that did it. When it was first discovered as a viable strategy in that situation, it was so unusual he made a clip of it. Now, it's a pretty routine move used by many players that seems to work like 3 out of 4 times.

http://www.twitch.tv/up2ng/c/574998 (http://www.twitch.tv/up2ng/c/574998)
Title: Re: Rivet Training Video
Post by: corey.chambers on May 17, 2013, 05:44:23 pm
I wanted to get some reflections and ideas on the video. It is still unfinished and needs some more additions and editing. Please let me know what works, and what doesn't. What should be in there that isn't etc. That would be great.
Title: Re: Rivet Training Video
Post by: corey.chambers on May 17, 2013, 10:10:35 pm
Here is the final Youtube version on my Donkey Kong Rivet Training Video: [noembed]  [/noembed]Donkey Kong Rivet Training Video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVmX80UX5Ec#) I will be doing the other three videos soon. I will be uploading my killscreen game and my best two hammers soon. Very exciting stuff.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Training Videos
Post by: marinomitch13 on May 17, 2013, 11:47:27 pm
Corey, this video is awesome! Honestly, it has most everything that Vince and my expert manual will have in it, but (being a video), it is much more enjoyable to learn from, I'm sure. Great work!

One suggestion I would have would be to make explicit the fact that when you have fireballs still on the right (with all the left rivets removed) that you often need to figure out whether you should go up and get the hammer first, or get the bottom right rivet first (once the bottom hammer has run out). For example, if a total of 3 fireballs are left on the right, and two of them are above you, most the time it is easy to get the bottom right rivet first, then the hammer. However, if there are a total of 3 fireballs on the right and two of them are below you, it might be a waste of time to get the bottom right rivet first. I think this is a significant/useful enough principle that it merits being mentioned explicitly as a general principle a player ought to keep in mind. Again, great video!

Edit: I just looked at the time of your posts. Sorry I got home so late and didn't have time to share this opinion with you before you 'finalized' the video. Maybe you would have wanted to add my suggestion in. If it is too late to add it in, it's not a big deal.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Training Videos
Post by: corey.chambers on May 18, 2013, 12:31:37 am
I do recall saying in the video that it is safest to get the hammer as soon as possible, but beyond that I don't make it explicit to tell them what to do if they can't immediately grab it, what they would do with their time. At this point I am sure there are some things that could be added to it. I also realized that I could spend a long time on it or if it was sufficient enough to help newer players. I am familiar with what you are saying and I remember making it explicit in my very first Twitch video but for some reason it was changed to what I said initially. When is the expert manual coming out, perhaps if I were to read it I could be more thorough with the other three videos.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Training Videos
Post by: Jonesy on May 18, 2013, 12:47:21 am
What a cool video

Thanks man, real helpful!
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Training Videos
Post by: corey.chambers on May 18, 2013, 05:20:27 am
Thanks. One day I may add a few more things to it.

1) Ladder vs. lower rivet first
2) Placement of Mario with hammer on right side of top right rivet with firefox coming down and jumping over to the left at the last second.
3) Jumping straight up to grab lower hammer while firefox is coming down the ladder.

If and when some of these other elements appear in my game play I will probably just delete the video I uploaded, add these elements, and then post a new one. I was just too anxious to get it off the ground. :)
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Training Videos
Post by: marinomitch13 on May 18, 2013, 12:42:30 pm
Expert Manual won't be done until KO4 (though we already have over 100 pages of it done!). For KO3 we are just focusing on the beginners manual (about 60-70 pages). :)

So just make your videos and don't plan on waiting around for us. The rivet video was fantastic, so I don't think you really need our help in making these. If you just take your time, you'll remember to add in all the important stuff.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Training Videos
Post by: corey.chambers on May 18, 2013, 01:47:09 pm
Thanks for the encouragement. When all is said and done, I am sure I may need to make a 5th Supplemental Video that has a little bit for each board that is not contained in the original. Of course, I would prefer to keep the original for the view count etc.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Training Videos
Post by: corey.chambers on May 18, 2013, 06:57:24 pm
I just got done posting my killscreen game onto youtube: [noembed] Donkey Kong Killscreen Game (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L89PsnbuxWk#) [/noembed] There isn't any sound, just the whole game. I am hoping that as newer players watch the training videos they may want to see it all in action.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Training Videos
Post by: Phame on May 19, 2013, 03:38:03 am
wow im going to use the weave pattern now on dk riviot lev thanks sir..
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Training Videos
Post by: corey.chambers on May 19, 2013, 07:10:24 am
Sure thing! :) Players who use both the Star and Weave pattern decide around the time of clearing the first rivet. Will they jump back left and proceed into the Star or keep moving to the right up the ladder into the Weave. People who use both decide based on where the Firefoxes spawn. If they all spawn in the lower right then it is much safer to do the Weave than if they all spawned up at the top. You may want to try alternating based on the spawning location of the firefoxes. Trying to do the Weave when the firefoxes all spawn in the top right might be harder to do than the Star. Not grabbing the top hammer too early is important in the Weave. Never hurts to try and learn new things. Good luck on improving your score. I am glad that this video was helpful to you. New videos are in process. :)
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Training Videos
Post by: corey.chambers on May 19, 2013, 02:46:41 pm
I recently saw these two training type videos on youtube that are decently done on the arcade version. In play narration. I am not sure who it is but I sent him a message about his high score posted on youtube.

donkey kong arcade pointpress part1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGgRbXLnHxY#ws)

donkey kong point press part 2 of 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64Jot9bSIvA#ws)
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Training Videos
Post by: marinomitch13 on May 19, 2013, 02:52:25 pm
Wow! That's a really nice pace! Is he a member of this forum yet?
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Training Videos
Post by: JCHarrist on May 19, 2013, 03:14:51 pm
Wow! That's a really nice pace! Is he a member of this forum yet?

Yeah, that's Joseph Carroll. He's Bliss1083 on the forum.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Training Videos
Post by: Bliss1083 on May 20, 2013, 12:22:37 am
Glad everyone liked it. Now that I look at that video I almost wanna kick myself for not getting the prizes on the elevator stages. I see a lot of points being left on the boards in that game. I'm going to start streaming a lot more once I get my internet connection upload speed at an acceptable level. Thanks for a site like this where people interested might actually get to see this and hopefully learn anything from it.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Training Videos
Post by: corey.chambers on May 20, 2013, 12:23:16 am
I just created a two new videos this evening. The first is [noembed]How to play Donkey Kong on WolfMAME (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsfV1Wdc2aM)[/noembed]. In this video I show people who are not familiar with MAME how to set it up. I posted this link on the High Score List under the "Want to play Donkey Kong on MAME" heading. During the video, while the files are downloading I highly promote the High Score List and the Donkey Kong Forum. I hope you don't mind, Jeff. :)

I just finished my 800K game at 1M pace video and will be posted that this evening as well.

Be sure to Like and Subscribe! Shameless pitch, lol ;) The more people who view it and like it will surely promote it better when people do searches on youtube and help the Donkey Kong Forum get more exposure that way too.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Training Videos
Post by: mikegmi2 on May 20, 2013, 06:14:45 am
Weave/Star

To me, it seems like the success with either one of these patterns doesn't lie within the pattern itself...but rather...like many aspects of DK...success lies within the leniency of the randomness.

Sure, you can make an educated guess and decide whether or not to do the star/weave based on how firefoxes are dispersed throughout the screen...as you clear the first rivet...but any firefox can spoil either pattern if you get unlucky.  It only takes 1 stubborn firefox running left to block you from either climbing up to clear the top left rivets (star/weave), climb down to grab the left hammer (star), or prevent you from getting the middle hammer (star/weave).

You're at the mercy of the game...and I don't think either pattern is superior over the other...nor do I think one can accurately judge whether or not to use either pattern based on what happens during the first 5-6 seconds of the screen.

You never hear anyone shouting "do the weave, weave!" or, "go for the star, star!"...you always hear people say, "maybe the weave would have worked there", or, "probably shoulda just stuck with the star"...and thats just hindsight.

Just my 2 cents.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Training Videos
Post by: stella_blue on May 20, 2013, 06:27:22 am
I just created a two new videos this evening. The first is [noembed]How to play Donkey Kong on WolfMAME (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsfV1Wdc2aM)[/noembed]. In this video I show people who are not familiar with MAME how to set it up. I posted this link on the High Score List under the "Want to play Donkey Kong on MAME" heading. During the video, while the files are downloading I highly promote the High Score List and the Donkey Kong Forum. I hope you don't mind, Jeff. :)

I just finished my 800K game at 1M pace video and will be posted that this evening as well.

Be sure to Like and Subscribe! Shameless pitch, lol ;) The more people who view it and like it will surely promote it better when people do searches on youtube and help the Donkey Kong Forum get more exposure that way too.

There's nothing shameless about plugging a personal project for which you obviously have a great deal of passion.

I just subscribed AND gave a thumbs up to all 4 videos currently posted.  Looking forward to the rest.

Hey Corey, with your approval, I'd like to add one of your games to a "DK Data Archive" topic I've been planning.  Each game summary looks like this:

https://donkeykongforum.net/index.php?topic=161.msg2165#msg2165 (https://donkeykongforum.net/index.php?topic=161.msg2165#msg2165)

Personally, I would choose the 816,400 Level 18-3 game.  Do you have a preference?

Title: Re: Donkey Kong Training Videos
Post by: corey.chambers on May 20, 2013, 06:42:22 am
Thanks for your thoughts. Very encouraging. You are more than welcome to use my information for a project. Feel free to use any game I have done or will do. :)
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Training Videos
Post by: marinomitch13 on May 20, 2013, 11:37:21 am
OK, so I've been wondering (actually, to be honest, this thought came to me in a kinda lucid dream  ;D): what if, in terms of safety, the Staal Pattern is best? It seems more efficient at clearing out the top rivets, and the rivet left near the bottom hammer is usually pretty easy to snag. With a little practice (and maybe actually modifying the usual principles) of when to grab the top hammer and where to smash fireballs, it may be safer (?). When I get back into DK, I will try messing with this more and try to see what a large sample of trying to do this yields. My gut is that it can be improved upon quite a bit if some intentionality is brought to it, but that it would ultimately still be less safe. But, then again, DK rivet theory has surprised me before with the weave and some other auxiliary patterns being quite useful.

Ok, everyone can go burn me at the stake now...
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Training Videos
Post by: stella_blue on May 20, 2013, 12:13:29 pm
Glad everyone liked it. Now that I look at that video I almost wanna kick myself for not getting the prizes on the elevator stages. I see a lot of points being left on the boards in that game. I'm going to start streaming a lot more once I get my internet connection upload speed at an acceptable level. Thanks for a site like this where people interested might actually get to see this and hopefully learn anything from it.

Hey Joseph, I just watched both of those posted videos.  Solid gameplay, and I enjoyed your unassuming and conversational narrative style.  I look forward to your future DK streaming sessions.  Since I don't secure 130k starts very often, I'll be looking to steal (borrow, I mean) any techniques or strategies that might help my own game.   :)

Title: Re: Donkey Kong Training Videos
Post by: Bliss1083 on May 20, 2013, 12:15:58 pm
I think it's great to have many patterns for the rivet stage to practice on. I mean if you have to abandon a certain pattern because the fireballs aren't cooperating then it's good to know where to go to fall back on. The ones that do the no hammer challenge get pretty good at evaluating a certain pattern Just by where the fireballs spawn from the beginning. Sometimes the weave is for me sometimes when I don't like where the fireballs spawn I might just pull my left hammer rivet from the get go to avoid a death, then depending on what side top two rivets to grab I go from there. I really like to grab the left two and hammer fireballs on the right side but sometimes that isn't an option. The more I watch others play the better I can see why they do this or that. You can be surprised what you can learn from anyone even if their scores aren't up to where your score maybe. Everyone can bring something to the table.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Training Videos
Post by: Bliss1083 on May 20, 2013, 12:18:04 pm
Haha, Stella go for it man. It's why I put it up there. Remember we gotta see who can get the kill screen first! Lol.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Training Videos
Post by: stella_blue on May 20, 2013, 12:49:54 pm
Haha, Stella go for it man. It's why I put it up there. Remember we gotta see who can get the kill screen first! Lol.

Yeah, it's a good thing we don't have any money riding on this, as my prospects are presently bleak.   :(

We should invite Mitch (marinomitch13), Dan (danman123456), and Craig (d3scribe) to join our friendly little competition.  We're all members of the 700 club, looking to suffer that unavoidable demise on Level 22-1 for the first time.

Whaddaya think?

Title: Re: Donkey Kong Training Videos
Post by: Bliss1083 on May 20, 2013, 12:59:44 pm
Yeah totally! the more the merrier. I feel probably at least 2 of us will have a kill screen before years end. I'm recording almost every game now so I will have my proof but I believe everyone on here so if a picture is all you get that's all good. Let'em know.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Training Videos
Post by: marinomitch13 on May 20, 2013, 04:05:37 pm
I'm only gonna play at 1m+ pace from now on, unless there is some sort of Wildcard Rematch #3 happening soon. I'm also not gonna start playing DK again unless there is a WCR#3 or the requirements for the KO3 are announced. So, I'll join this little race, but don't expect me to go all out and beat you guys there in the near future.

Sorry for going off topic, Corey. Maybe, Scott, you can start a thread about it or something. The 700K Club Blues.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Training Videos
Post by: stella_blue on May 20, 2013, 04:25:38 pm
Sorry for going off topic, Corey. Maybe, Scott, you can start a thread about it or something. The 700K Club Blues.

Good idea.  The "hijacked topic" apology goes double for me.

Title: Re: Donkey Kong Training Videos
Post by: LMDAVE on May 20, 2013, 04:45:11 pm
I'm also not gonna start playing DK again unless there is a WCR#3 or the requirements for the KO3 are announced.

Well, I thought the requirements for KO3 came out a while back, and is also posted on the TG facebook event:

https://www.facebook.com/events/620619794630299/?fref=ts (https://www.facebook.com/events/620619794630299/?fref=ts)

The only weird thing now is the new TG website has the event listed as Nov. 1st-3rd. (instead of 15-17th)

But, top 12 on the TG scoreboard are dedicated players, and the rest are wildcards rotation through 8 different machines. Unless these were not official yet, it came across as though.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Training Videos
Post by: marinomitch13 on May 20, 2013, 04:56:05 pm
Oh, wow! I hadn't realized that I missed this! I just joined the FB event now. Well, I guess it is time to start shooting for about 1.075m, as I'm sure several people will get 1.05m.

Edit: Actually, looking the top 10 list, maybe 1.05m would be good enough, but I still wanna try for a 1.1m pace that tapers off near the end and ends up a bit lower, just to be safe. Gotta finish the games I am working on now though first, so it'll still be a couple months though.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Training Videos
Post by: LMDAVE on May 20, 2013, 05:01:17 pm
I'd be surprised if 12th place is up to 1.05M by then. If they are going to stick with their TG scoreboard requirement, Ben will have to get an official one up, and of course those in the top 12 are trying to up their scores.

The new TG site looks better, however, I guess the scoreboard is not up anymore (yet), could find the link to it.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Training Videos
Post by: marinomitch13 on May 20, 2013, 05:04:54 pm
Ah yes, I guess they have to be TG official, don't they? I keep on forgetting that.  ;D But, I'll at least make this prediction here: I think that at least 5 more people will get over 1m by the KO3, and that at least 2 of the people currently over 1m will up their scores.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Training Videos
Post by: Bliss1083 on May 20, 2013, 05:06:54 pm
Dave the donkey kong scoreboard is up for both make and arcade last I checked abou a week ago. It's a little hard to find but you can search donkey kong and look under that and a list will show with arcade or look for us set 1. Sorry if this isn't what you were talking about.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Training Videos
Post by: d3scride on May 20, 2013, 05:12:55 pm
I'd be surprised if 12th place is up to 1.05M by then. If they are going to stick with their TG scoreboard requirement, Ben will have to get an official one up, and of course those in the top 12 are trying to up their scores.

The new TG site looks better, however, I guess the scoreboard is not up anymore (yet), could find the link to it.

The way it's setup now under the 2nd beta you have to search for a game's "page" then on the game page there's a highscores link on the left side of the page. Bit weird.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Training Videos
Post by: xelnia on May 20, 2013, 05:13:29 pm
http://www.twingalaxies.com/scoreboard/6648/46/ (http://www.twingalaxies.com/scoreboard/6648/46/) <---US Set 1 Scoreboards
http://www.twingalaxies.com/scoreboard/3852/2/ (http://www.twingalaxies.com/scoreboard/3852/2/) <---Arcade Scoreboards
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Training Videos
Post by: corey.chambers on July 06, 2013, 10:27:57 pm
I am in the process of improving the original post in this thread. In addition to some of the editing which I have done in it, which is still being formatted, I posted the following information.

Barrel Training Video - Still under-construction! Release date: no later than July 10th, 2013. With a potential running time of over an hour, this video will start with a time index for easy reference.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Training Videos
Post by: corey.chambers on July 10, 2013, 12:44:41 am
The release of the Barrel Training Video has been pushed back at least two days. I hope to have everything done by Friday evening. I apologize for that. I spent some time with the new killscreener score and the creation of the No-Hammer score list. Besides, I have to wait for the house to be quiet, and sometimes that limits my time. Hope to get it out soon, had to add to whole sections of some things I wanted in there. Projected time right now is a running time of 1 hour and 30 min. And not to worry there will be a time index at the beginning that will tell you what time to go to see what major section.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Training Videos
Post by: corey.chambers on July 11, 2013, 06:22:55 pm
At last, part 1 of the Barrel Training Video. Part 2 shall be uploaded later this evening.

[noembed]Barrel Training Video Part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IZCD21qXx8)[/noembed]
 
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Training Videos
Post by: corey.chambers on July 12, 2013, 03:40:40 pm
Alright,just so people know the Barrel Training Video was done in 2 parts. This is the [noembed]Barrel Training Video Part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLcH-B5nn2M)[/noembed]

I want to take a poll of which stage I should do next in this series of training videos. Who wants to see the Pie Factory next, and who wants to see the Elevators next?
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Training Videos
Post by: stella_blue on July 12, 2013, 03:58:23 pm

From a workload perspective, you should probably tackle the elevators first.  Compared to the conveyors, it will be a much more straightforward presentation, and should be a bit of a breather after the barrel videos.  Also, players in the beginner and intermediate categories will likely be more anxious to learn how to consistently pass the L4+ spring stages.

Title: Re: Donkey Kong Training Videos
Post by: corey.chambers on July 12, 2013, 04:14:56 pm
Ok, I have two for springs and one for pies. I may wait until after my million point game before I start another training video but from a time perspective I could have the springs done rather quickly compared to the monster Barrel videos.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Training Videos
Post by: Fast Eddie on July 15, 2013, 03:13:36 am
just watched part 1, nice work Corey, i make no effort to group anything other than the obvious on the transitions so that part was useful...

 8)
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Training Videos
Post by: corey.chambers on July 15, 2013, 04:22:51 am
Thanks, Jon! I find it interesting that only 39 people have seen part 2. Most people are watching part 1. It is part 2 when I deal with 5th girder grouping and using the hammer, and 5th girder transitions. People are missing these parts by not watching part 2.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Training Videos
Post by: Drunkguy89 on July 15, 2013, 05:18:23 am
I would agree with Stella_Blue, as much as I'd love to learn more about pie stages it would be a  huge benift for newer players to have  some insight into the elevators,
I would not have passed them if it were not for people on the forum showing me how (lv4 elevator)

whippin the springs....
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Training Videos
Post by: xelnia on July 15, 2013, 05:24:41 am
...it would be a  huge benift for newer players to have  some insight into the elevators...

Just back-jump every spring while yelling "YOLO!" Works every time.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Training Videos
Post by: stella_blue on July 15, 2013, 05:31:44 am
Just back-jump every spring while yelling "YOLO!" Works every time.

I was afraid this might happen.  Have you and Vincent been swapping medications . . . again?   :)

Title: Re: Donkey Kong Training Videos
Post by: xelnia on July 15, 2013, 05:42:31 am
Just back-jump every spring while yelling "YOLO!" Works every time.

I was afraid this might happen.  Have you and Vincent been swapping medications . . . again?   :)

No, but taking the YOLO route might explain why my high scores have really slowed down.  ;D
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Training Videos
Post by: ghamantorr on January 22, 2014, 05:51:57 pm
sry to revamp such an old thread but do you have any plans to continue this work?

From my begginner perspective this is very helpfull, i'm not dying in rivet stage anymore and even just rolling boards i use grouping and 4th/5th girder strategy to pass the barrel boards safe.

Right now i'm having problems in pie factory when the fire down the ladder and i cannot do the free pass. Sometimes i wait too much and have to risk my life because of the timer dying anyway. I'm losing lifes in springs too but i know what to do reading the basic manual you guys wrote, it's matter of time to master this.

Pie factory is the real problem.

ps. as some of you know, english is not my native language, so if i say something wrong feel free to correct me, please.  thanks.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Training Videos
Post by: Donkey Kong Genius on January 23, 2014, 12:14:31 pm
Eventually I plan to make the other boards into a video. For now, just watch some of my games on my youtube account. If you can't get an immediate free pass then go for the hammer. This is my first killscreen, just ran boards safely. Watch the pie factory boards to see if you can pick up any ideas. 

Donkey Kong Killscreen Game 893,800 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L89PsnbuxWk#)
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Training Videos
Post by: ghamantorr on January 23, 2014, 01:10:55 pm
i'm watching right now
thank you