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Related Games => DK and DKJR Remix => Topic started by: Sock Master on September 30, 2018, 08:27:25 pm

Title: Donkey Kong Spooky Remix
Post by: Sock Master on September 30, 2018, 08:27:25 pm
I figured it'd be fun to start a thread here specifically for the Spooky version of Donkey Kong Remix.

There are a number of changes, new additions, easter eggs and other extra features in DK Spooky Remix that make it different from DK Remix.  The scoring and gameplay are a bit different and there's strategies to be discovered to best take advantage of these features.

I'll update the list below as discoveries are reported.  A kind of easter egg hunt for players.

-------------Secret DK Spooky Remix Gameplay Differences-------------
#Discovery             Found by        Comment
1LuigiFlobeamerplayable character
2Warp pipeskips the stage
3Ladder dismountauto unstick
4Shellcreeperin-game character
5Goombain-game character
6Rejump assistFrame-perfect rejumps when jump button is pressed before landing
7Prize scoringIncreasing point values as more prizes are collected each level
8Anti-leechBats/ghosts can climb down when leeched
9Shy Guysin-game character
10Thwimpsin-game character
11GiuseppeSyscrusherplayable character
12Broken ladderscan be climbed down
13Jump bonusis now 100,300,600,800,1000...
14Bat/ghost jumpingwon't reverse or use ladders when jumped
15Additional prizessome barrel stages prize pickups
16??.....
17??.....
18??.....
19??.....
...??.....

The thread should be a good place to discuss strategies in general.  I know I'm leaving it a bit blank for now but I think it'll be interesting once the tournament starts.  I think other players will be interested in your strategies, discoveries, etc.

Thanks and I hope everyone enjoys the game :)
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Spooky Remix
Post by: Sock Master on October 02, 2018, 06:16:06 am
I'm also adding a list of things that Pauline transforms Jumpman into and updating it as the tourney progresses.

---------Jumpman Transformations---------
Level   Transformation   Found by
1Frog
2Spider
3Snake
4Sidestepper
5Luigi
6Shellcreeper
7Goomba
8Donkey Kong Junior
9Shy Guy
10Ninji
11Fireball
12Jack-o-Lantern
13Ghost
14Candy corn
15Pumpkin pie
16?
17?
18?
19?
...?
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Spooky Remix
Post by: krehztim on October 02, 2018, 07:30:03 pm
Having fun starting to play this one, thanks Sock.  I'm seeing a lot of patterned behavior, especially on the first two levels, with the ghosts, sidesteppers, even wild barrels.  Is it an issue with my MAME setup, or something to exploit.  I guess we'll find out . . .

Is there a scoreboard?
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Spooky Remix
Post by: xelnia on October 02, 2018, 07:51:20 pm
Quote from: krehztim on October 02, 2018, 07:30:03 pm
Is there a scoreboard?

There's a link to the leaderboard at the top of the tourney thread.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Spooky Remix
Post by: Sock Master on October 02, 2018, 08:42:17 pm
Quote from: krehztim on October 02, 2018, 07:30:03 pm
Having fun starting to play this one, thanks Sock.  I'm seeing a lot of patterned behavior, especially on the first two levels, with the ghosts, sidesteppers, even wild barrels.  Is it an issue with my MAME setup, or something to exploit.  I guess we'll find out . . .

The sense of deja-vu in the game seems kinda spooky even
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Spooky Remix
Post by: YesAffinity on October 02, 2018, 09:09:43 pm
Great hack, John!  I haven't gotten too far in level progression yet, but the early levels all seem to be similar to regular DK remix, BUT the animation changes are enough to throw things off.  Curious - was something done to the logic on L02-3 to make a different pattern for clearing the level more viable than what would work on regular DK remix?
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Spooky Remix
Post by: Sock Master on October 02, 2018, 09:41:34 pm
Quote from: YesAffinity on October 02, 2018, 09:09:43 pm
Great hack, John!  I haven't gotten too far in level progression yet, but the early levels all seem to be similar to regular DK remix, BUT the animation changes are enough to throw things off.  Curious - was something done to the logic on L02-3 to make a different pattern for clearing the level more viable than what would work on regular DK remix?

It's *mostly the same but the placement of a few things has been changed in a couple of screens.  The difference on L02-3 is Jumpman starts in the center instead of a bit to the left.

*some exceptions may apply but the ghosts told me not to say
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Spooky Remix
Post by: YesAffinity on October 02, 2018, 10:16:04 pm
Any plans to release this as a kit?  :D
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Spooky Remix
Post by: blackraven15 on October 03, 2018, 02:02:51 pm
We are working on looking into it tonsee if it's possible...

John has literally been playing with eproms all day especially for this quest.

We def need time for R and D if it's plausable
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Spooky Remix
Post by: YesAffinity on October 03, 2018, 03:05:02 pm
I'm sure it's way more complicated than my simple suggestion to do so, but it would be great if kits could be released and shipped ahead of tourney's.  I'm sure there are plenty of others here that would also be excited about the opportunity of playing on their cab for the tournament.   <stirpot>

Anyway, not to detract from this thread, just talking while I'm thinking here.  :)
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Spooky Remix
Post by: blackraven15 on October 03, 2018, 04:27:09 pm
This is the first remix tournament that excluded hardware due to changes in game logic.

To have been able to made hardware on top of the game would have likely doubled the two months Sock already put into this.

I am sorry you feel excluded
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Spooky Remix
Post by: YesAffinity on October 03, 2018, 04:48:41 pm
I don't feel excluded, my names already on the scoreboard, right there at the bottom (Bensweeney, where are you?!?!).  :D

I was thinking of it as more of an opportunity for you all, but again, probably oversimplifying something that is more hassle than any potential pay-off.  FailFish  I understand these things take time.  What we have in this rom revision is awesome.  And I understand adding additional pressures and deadlines probably increases the stress levels to the point of making it not worth doing.  Again, was just talking while I was thinking.  8)
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Spooky Remix
Post by: blackraven15 on October 03, 2018, 04:55:49 pm
well John is looking into it, it just never would have happened in time to be of any use for the tourney

We are a two person team but the bulk of everything is all John, I just help bounce ideas, take care of social media and sometimes solder the larger parts on boards

Been having an overwhelming sense of not being able to please everyone and I hate to say it but it gets really discouraging really fast for the both of us. We pour our everything into these projects.

I'm Nina Haigh on the list - haven't had a chance to submit a score though
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Spooky Remix
Post by: danman123456 on October 03, 2018, 06:02:30 pm
And they are awesome! Don't stop!!! I'll order a DK JR Remix directly from you now even though i dont have a DKJR yet :D

Just message me the how much and ill paypal ya ASAP.

Trust me I get it but dont get discouraged please what you both do is really amazing.

Dan

Quote from: blackraven15 on October 03, 2018, 04:55:49 pm
well John is looking into it, it just never would have happened in time to be of any use for the tourney

We are a two person team but the bulk of everything is all John, I just help bounce ideas, take care of social media and sometimes solder the larger parts on boards

Been having an overwhelming sense of not being able to please everyone and I hate to say it but it gets really discouraging really fast for the both of us. We pour our everything into these projects.

I'm Nina Haigh on the list - haven't had a chance to submit a score though
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Spooky Remix
Post by: blackraven15 on October 03, 2018, 06:18:25 pm
Aww Dan you are so sweet, its not money, we are more than happy to give some cool things to the community, we have been giddy for the past month solid wanting to share Spooky with you all and here still has the same vibe it has always had. It has mostly been my dealings with people on social media. There is a real no wining, can't please them, can't be good enough :/
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Spooky Remix
Post by: danman123456 on October 03, 2018, 06:26:08 pm
I know its not money I just meant I really appreciate it all and I need one anyway so message me the deets :D

Thanks!
Dan

Quote from: blackraven15 on October 03, 2018, 06:18:25 pm
Aww Dan you are so sweet, its not money, we are more than happy to give some cool things to the community, we have been giddy for the past month solid wanting to share Spooky with you all and here still has the same vibe it has always had. It has mostly been my dealings with people on social media. There is a real no wining, can't please them, can't be good enough :/
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Spooky Remix
Post by: YesAffinity on October 03, 2018, 06:38:31 pm
Yes, I meant no disrespect.  If anything, it was my way of voicing my enthusiasm for this rendition, and appreciation, and desire to you know throw some money at you guys for your efforts. :)

Thank you for all of it, and keep up the good work!

Oh, and I found a warp pipe (35:50) https://www.twitch.tv/videos/318124245  8)
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Spooky Remix
Post by: VeryApe121 on October 04, 2018, 08:25:04 am
I'm new to the DK community and DKF in general.  I got a Jr cabinet a little over a month ago, and quickly got a DK board and Sock's remix/save/trainer kit and it is AMAZING. 

I just wanted to thank both Sock and Mrs. Sock for all the work they've done on the DK and DK Jr Remixes and also say HOW FREAKING COOL the Spooky Remix is!  I watched Sock play the other night and Wes play last night, and decided I'll set it  up on my PC and give it a go...although I'll still suck since my PB on regular Remix is something like 30k.....

On another positive note, I'll probably have it setup and streamable before Allen does... <Allen>
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Spooky Remix
Post by: krehztim on October 04, 2018, 10:28:51 am
I may suck at DK (542k PB), but these alternate versions are fantastic.  No complaints from me whatsoever.  I've spent my adult life working in the software development world, I know it can seem like no one's ever happy with one thing or another, but these are EXTREMELY appreciated. 

Quote from: blackraven15 on October 03, 2018, 04:55:49 pm
well John is looking into it, it just never would have happened in time to be of any use for the tourney

We are a two person team but the bulk of everything is all John, I just help bounce ideas, take care of social media and sometimes solder the larger parts on boards

Been having an overwhelming sense of not being able to please everyone and I hate to say it but it gets really discouraging really fast for the both of us. We pour our everything into these projects.

I'm Nina Haigh on the list - haven't had a chance to submit a score though
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Spooky Remix
Post by: YesAffinity on October 04, 2018, 10:30:49 am
SPOILER ALERT





The transition from Mario to Luigi at L=6 is pretty friggin' rad!  <gasp> 8) BibleThump
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Spooky Remix
Post by: blackraven15 on October 04, 2018, 11:02:06 am
Keep all the easter egg discoveries coming :)

I'm so very glad you are loving spooky - we are both in love with it too ^_^

I am in AWE of John's sorcery ability to play with colors given the very strict color rules DK uses - someone should ask him about it next time he streams - He is PURE mad genius :P
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Spooky Remix
Post by: YesAffinity on October 04, 2018, 09:00:28 pm
I have a very basic understanding of what the limitations probably are, and to my simple mind with regard to that stuff, just the fact of adding in the warp pipe including warp pipe audio effect, and the crabs, and not only a costume change but very subtle but nonetheless obvious run and jump characteristic differences for luigi...just astounding.   Take into account all of the graphical changes...bats...pumpkins...cauldrons...chains...just wow.  BibleThump BibleThump
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Spooky Remix
Post by: Weehawk on October 05, 2018, 07:38:18 pm
In case nobody else is cheating as hard as I am:

(http://www.slither-gdi.net/waluigi.gif)
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Spooky Remix
Post by: blackraven15 on October 05, 2018, 07:45:00 pm
Guiseppe!!!

It's a Joe!
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Spooky Remix
Post by: Weehawk on October 06, 2018, 12:59:21 pm
(http://www.slither-gdi.net/spooky_end.gif)
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Spooky Remix
Post by: Dustin(tiptop)Myers on October 13, 2018, 07:01:35 am
Spooky Remix is incredibly cool!
love finding new things with each new level!
Can't wait to see what you come up with next.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Spooky Remix
Post by: SithOfSpades on November 29, 2018, 06:50:25 am
I didn't see anyone else post this:
(https://i.imgur.com/KEsUza3.gif)
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Spooky Remix
Post by: numach on December 20, 2018, 11:18:26 am
Quote from: blackraven15 on October 03, 2018, 04:55:49 pm
"We pour our everything into these projects. "

It shows and these are awesome. I ABSOLUTELY LOVE the Spooky version.

Anyways, I just wanted to say thanks. You two do a great job!