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Discussion about poor moderation and leaderboard management
Mitch Mitchell:
--- Quote from: Rev John on September 06, 2021, 02:52:46 am ---
--- Quote from: Scoundrl on September 05, 2021, 12:30:17 pm ---
--- Quote from: Rev John on September 05, 2021, 03:13:43 am ---Was the game played on unmodified hardware? No.
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This is technically not correct. The hardware was not modified per se, the hardware's built in adjustments we used to lower to voltage.
Datagods 'Prayer' analogy is perfect here.
He used the hardware as it was intended. That adjustment is used to set the +5VDC and -5VDC levels. Different hardware draws different current so there is a built in mechanism to address that. My +5vdc is 4.83 right now and its turned all the way up. It needs rebuilt. It's not 5.0V, Am I cheating? Like I told Robbie, if the logic is working to the extent you cannot tell it cannot be effecting RNG in your favor somehow. All he did was prove that. I'm not sure why this is so hard to understand. I understand he was trying to test the RNG and though it was effecting it, but it didnt and he knew that was a possible outcome to.
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Thanks Scoundrl. I was going to edit my post above but can't, so I hope anyone who reads my post goes on to read yours. I was under the impression that something external to the proper hardware had been used, which is why I felt a strict line had been crossed. I apologise for my ignorance! I should try to fix up the old cab (not a DK) I have downstairs and teach myself a few things :-[
I had read someone saying something like "it would be impossible for the game to be affected in such a specific way as to only affect fireball RNG on barrels" so I was interested to look at the code to see if there might be a possible mechanism for such RNG. Hence my speculation above. I'd also speculate that the game may well just stop with a dead PCB if the voltage was low low low enough?
Has Robbie's game been run through the Kongtracker? The stats could only help inform this discussion.
Here's some of Robbies stats from that game.
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TheKD:
Thanks for the work Mitch!
Ohrami:
A very major oversight in the arguments of Rev John and Snowflake is that they are missing a major point, that being that Robbie Lakeman did not have his score rejected because he used modified voltage. He had his score rejected because he used modified voltage and was of the belief that it would give him some advantage in-game. Whether or not you think modifying voltage should be allowed is certainly a valid discussion, but it doesn't address the issue at hand, which is that Robbie Lakeman was rejected from this leaderboard because of his opinion regarding something about the game and then his action based on that opinion. It's purely based on his supposed intent (something only a mind-reader could truly know regardless), and not based on the modification of gameplay or hardware whatsoever.
Snowflake:
wasnt an oversight on my part at all. in fact i heavily explicilty hit on that point before. This time to avoid buzzwords i slightly softened it but my comment still adressed it was not just about the voltage.
i've largely been on your side, perhaps with a different tone, as well as more resigned and ready to move on at this point, dont confuse my lack of reiteraton of every detail as being unaware of it.
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