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Offline Milehighdt

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What score will be needed for a dedicated cab at KO4 (top 10)
« on: September 30, 2014, 10:02:58 pm »
With all the great scores now and to come before KO4 how hard is it going to be to get one of the top 10 spots. Is TG going to start accepting scores or will Richie use the DKF's HSL. Let me know what you think.
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Re: What score will be needed for a dedicated cab at KO4 (top 10)
« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2014, 10:45:54 pm »
I think Richie is leaning towards the DKF list just because of the short period of time we might have to submit scores before KO4.  Im guessing the cutoff point may be just under 1.1.  It just depends on who can put enough time in on a cab to get that score.  If Dean or Wes could get on a machine and put up a score over 1.1 that would change a lot.  And don't forget players like Corey who are constantly pushing for 1.1.  I think the next few months will be interesting to see how the top ten turns out.  Last year the cutoff was 1.025 and about a year after its already getting to be 75k higher which is insane.

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Re: What score will be needed for a dedicated cab at KO4 (top 10)
« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2014, 03:59:42 am »
It will be 1.1 million.  Don't forget that Mitchell, and Wiebe who are not 1.1 million players will be getting their own machine. This means there will be two less dedicated machines, and most likely that will result in a higher bar to hurdle. This year I am ok with them getting in because Mitchell has an unofficial 1.125 million score, and Wiebe is competitive.  Having said that I want both to raise their scores by the 2016 tournament or they probably shouldn't have a dedicated.  I just think 10 or 12 machines is too small to give away machines like that.  If they have 20 machines by 2016, than yeah let them in.
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Re: What score will be needed for a dedicated cab at KO4 (top 10)
« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2014, 07:15:04 am »
Yea kinda weird, because Dean has a 1.079, which would not make top 10, but you would think he automatically gets a dedicated cab, like Billy and Steve do...so that leaves 7 spots.

Mr. Wolfe's 1.103 would technically be the cutoff score as it stands now.

Some players with huge scores currently (Wiltshire, Dave, etc) would need to put up a bigger score to make top 10.
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Re: What score will be needed for a dedicated cab at KO4 (top 10)
« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2014, 07:39:43 am »
I think there was some talk a while back from Richie that the HSL here is what will be used as TG still isn't accepting scores. Plus he alluded that MAME scores also count for the "dedicated" cabs. Steve and Billy are locks for a cab simply for the "star power" aspect. I didn't hear about Billy having a 1.125 anywhere either but I completely agree you need to have some "celebrity" power there and those guys are it even if its just because KoK. If MAME isn't a variable then Dean will not be on a dedicated cab as of right now but he will certainly be qualified for the WC division.

It's looking like 1.1 will be the cutoff at this point. Gotta remember also its who will be attending as well. Will Jeff W want to compete again? Is everyone who is in the top 10 want to compete?

 
Yea kinda weird, because Dean has a 1.079, which would not make top 10, but you would think he automatically gets a dedicated cab, like Billy and Steve do...so that leaves 7 spots.

Mr. Wolfe's 1.103 would technically be the cutoff score as it stands now.

Some players with huge scores currently (Wiltshire, Dave, etc) would need to put up a bigger score to make top 10.
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Re: What score will be needed for a dedicated cab at KO4 (top 10)
« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2014, 07:57:12 am »
Know before reading this I am obviously going to be biased.  My personal opinion is that while there is some fair room for distinction between MAME and Arcade scores (they are obviously radically different platforms and conditions to play under), Jeff has won the last two Kong Offs as a dedicated MAME player. Given Dean's accomplishments as well, I'm not sure how fair it would be to segregate the MAME players out of what Kong Off recognizes as the HSL.

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Re: What score will be needed for a dedicated cab at KO4 (top 10)
« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2014, 08:28:02 am »
It's been debated a few times before. I understand both sides. If people want a "dedicated arcade cabinet" at the KO then they can put up a score on a dedicated arcade cabinet and not MAME. I can see where Richie is coming from there. On the quality of the player its almost a 1-1 with just a slight learning curve on the control panel and physical requirements of sitting at a cabinet of a certain size. The game itself is 100% the same.

Know before reading this I am obviously going to be biased.  My personal opinion is that while there is some fair room for distinction between MAME and Arcade scores (they are obviously radically different platforms and conditions to play under), Jeff has won the last two Kong Offs as a dedicated MAME player. Given Dean's accomplishments as well, I'm not sure how fair it would be to segregate the MAME players out of what Kong Off recognizes as the HSL.
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Re: What score will be needed for a dedicated cab at KO4 (top 10)
« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2014, 11:40:15 am »
I think that Richie said the top ten who gets dedicated cabs would be arcade only as thats just how its always been decided.  The wild cards will be chosen from the DKO where MAME scores are accepted.  Those who earn a wild card spot will be on a dedicated cab anyways, so there is a chance for anyone who plays MAME or arcade to have an equal chance at a dedicated machine for the first couple of days.

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Re: What score will be needed for a dedicated cab at KO4 (top 10)
« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2014, 12:27:55 pm »
Right and from the WC events who is going that is also not a Top 10 player? I would hope we could maybe do a 2:1 team up on the wildcard machines the first day at least give a few more people a chance but its all good.
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Re: What score will be needed for a dedicated cab at KO4 (top 10)
« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2014, 08:30:59 pm »
the billy mitchel score of 1.12 was a rumour or a claimed recording unless someone else has any info .

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Re: What score will be needed for a dedicated cab at KO4 (top 10)
« Reply #10 on: October 13, 2014, 07:13:35 am »
Does the DK Open even mean anything anymore for KO4? I know I'm out the top 10 now on DKF scoreboard, but I'm still the #1 seed on DKO (which is a test of scoring under tournament pressure) if that was a qualifier.
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Re: What score will be needed for a dedicated cab at KO4 (top 10)
« Reply #11 on: October 13, 2014, 08:29:48 am »
You're still top 10 arcade, whereas I'm not even close.  I think from that perspective you have a machine by default and I'm #1 DKO seed (since the three players above me including yourself all are top 10 arcade and will have machines). I will try to clarify further with Richie when I arrive in NJ in a few days.

I wish the qualification system was more thoroughly ironed out because it's hard for up and comers to really know what to shoot for ...
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Re: What score will be needed for a dedicated cab at KO4 (top 10)
« Reply #12 on: October 13, 2014, 02:54:53 pm »
Get somewhere between 1,135,xxx and 1,141,xxx and you'll probably be okay (maybe).
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Re: What score will be needed for a dedicated cab at KO4 (top 10)
« Reply #13 on: October 13, 2014, 06:14:11 pm »
The DKO's are for the Wildcard machines Dave so you will at least have a dedicated wildcard machine based on the current score you have. Figure about 6 wildcards maybe more?

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Re: What score will be needed for a dedicated cab at KO4 (top 10)
« Reply #14 on: October 15, 2014, 02:20:53 am »
The DKO's are for the Wildcard machines

I must have missed something. So is it "official" that they are sticking to the original KO format of score-chasing...10 dedicateds and wildcard machines decided through the DKOs?
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