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Other Classic Arcade Games => Classic Arcade Game Discussion => Topic started by: wolfman24 on November 29, 2014, 10:36:00 pm
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Yolympics
start date January 26th
end date March 1st 11:59 pm est
1. –For the entire contest there will be 28 games.
2. - Auto fire is not allowed
3. - Adjudication – Creating INPs is encouraged but not necessary. If there are any score disputes the player in question must submit a separate INP of their game play for approval. In this case, it is suggested to create INPs for large scores and/or long play-sessions.
4. - Submissions: Mame Olympics (http://retrovg.herokuapp.com/games)
5. - All games must be completed and submissions received no later than Febuary 27th at 11:59 est. Any scores submitted after this time will not be valid.
6. Scoring: all scores are calculated but only top 5 from each team counts
Looking forward to an awesome tournament!
Any questions, write vgwolfman@yahoo.com
decided to put stuff on google docs
teams
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1suwSKcgOg9t-CPWFY8wGP4v7o1d-ZUkGgMe_M4fncXE/edit?usp=sharing (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1suwSKcgOg9t-CPWFY8wGP4v7o1d-ZUkGgMe_M4fncXE/edit?usp=sharing)
game list
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PFFqx-bKwgRT9dsjVFm1zO406yuUP1Z9bEZHQHQfp_c/edit?usp=sharing (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PFFqx-bKwgRT9dsjVFm1zO406yuUP1Z9bEZHQHQfp_c/edit?usp=sharing)
streaming list
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1l3Y8z7lQGyWwm_GJCppg0yxkIdhl4_sxttejCxtjBmI/edit?usp=sharing (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1l3Y8z7lQGyWwm_GJCppg0yxkIdhl4_sxttejCxtjBmI/edit?usp=sharing)
countdown
http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20150301T235959&p0=179&msg=yolympics+end (http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20150301T235959&p0=179&msg=yolympics+end)
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Sounds like a fun idea. 5-10 different games a week might be a bit high though if the goal is to submit scores on all of them.
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No one said it was supposed to be easy.
Hec
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sign up page
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/14c5e6fppmNls_wGZg6VhJhw-x8gnNU5y_R5hvnftRGw/viewform
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What defines a nation? Do I just say USA?
Dan
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What defines a nation? Do I just say USA?
Dan
ROC Nation
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kong nation lol
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updated 1st post with sign up page and nations and their players
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updated 1st post up to 36 players
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How do I sign up for Team Penis?
<confused> C====8
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haha how the f <mad>
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lol penis
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(http://static.desktopnexus.com/thumbnails/651496-bigthumbnail.jpg)
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updated 1st post up to 65 players, 28 games in contest, and teams will be drafted
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The fuck are the actual rules for this?
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ROFL ROFL ROFL
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The fuck are the actual rules for this?
what do you mean?
no auto fire, make an inp just in case your score get's questioned, and play using the dip switches that are asked simple rules.
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updated 1st post up to 65 players, 28 games in contest, and teams will be drafted
snake draft or auction? Kappa
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snake draft or auction? Kappa
I am a human being!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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updated 1st post up to 65 players, 28 games in contest, and teams will be drafted
snake draft or auction? Kappa
i think snake would be the best way. how does an auction draft work?
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You are given a salary cap of sorts to work with and each player comes up for bid. When bidding stops on a player, the highest bidder owns the player but that cost is subtracted from their cap total. They cannot go beyond that cap number to acquire players so there are various strategies employed. A team with 1 or 2 top dollar players or a team with many lower to mid cost players, etc. You could buy TIF and BBH but the rest of the team would be like 12 <Pigger> 's or it could be a more balanced approach.
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<Pigger> <Pigger> <Pigger> <Pigger> <Pigger> <Pigger> <Pigger> <Pigger> <Pigger> <Pigger> <Pigger> <Pigger>
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Ethan's in trouble, trying to sneak a dozen <Pigger> through the 10-items-or-less express register.
Big trouble.
Expect a phone call.
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even though auction sounds fun i think snake would be best
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You are given a salary cap of sorts to work with and each player comes up for bid. When bidding stops on a player, the highest bidder owns the player but that cost is subtracted from their cap total. They cannot go beyond that cap number to acquire players so there are various strategies employed. A team with 1 or 2 top dollar players or a team with many lower to mid cost players, etc. You could buy TIF and BBH but the rest of the team would be like 12 <Pigger> 's or it could be a more balanced approach.
So I get to be shamed even before my shameful scores shame me?
Thanks a lot BibleThump
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im in i hope theres some fightin games
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Fuck it I'll sign up, if you need 2 more team captains, I recommend TIF and BBH if they don't mind doing it.
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updated 1st post with games and dips
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one shmup BibleThump BibleThump BibleThump
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updated 1st post with games and dips
But not the pool of players BibleThump
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1 shootemup? there is like 6 of them ROFL
there i edited the pool of players
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there i edited the pool of players
Kreygasm <popcorn>
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Order:
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1 shootemup? there is like 6 of them ROFL
there i edited the pool of players
You could do with probably 7 or 8 more fighting games at least.
Just to be sure all the fighting fans (1) within your pool (69) are happy
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Just to be sure all the fighting fans (1) within your pool (69) are happy
Hahahahahaha
Oh, my! (drying eyes)
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1 shootemup? there is like 6 of them ROFL
there i edited the pool of players
Calling those shmups is like calling Pong a fighting game.
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Regarding Asteroids. For some reason MAME made Revision 4 the Main Rom for this game so RU is using this version. But, if you play on a cab, chances are you're playing on Revision 2 and since this version is easier, it pretty much rules out using a real cab for this game. Someone like Ken might know the history much better than me but I wonder if Rev 4 was ever even put into production? IMO RU should be running Rev 2 as but he won't do clones.
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I'd like to participate, but I don't know if I have the time. Gotta sort this out.
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I'm interested...is it too late to sign up?
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not to late
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fighters were removed and replaced with mars matrix, bubble bobble and zoo keeper
http://docs.google.com/forms/d/1f5b0OrFo1R_W69Y7gcmg2-gvt4zudhnhdql9YrUtG5k/viewform (http://docs.google.com/forms/d/1f5b0OrFo1R_W69Y7gcmg2-gvt4zudhnhdql9YrUtG5k/viewform)
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Mars Matrix Kreygasm
No fighters BibleThump
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WHHHHAAAAT MY FIGGHTING GAMES :( and more old people games pffft breakin my heart BibleThump BibleThump BibleThump BibleThump
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more old people games
ROFL Hahahahahahahaha
That really is a wonderful insult <thefinger>
Get ready to <blinky> <pacman> · · · · · · · · · · · · o
with all the old people
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WHHHHAAAAT MY FIGGHTING GAMES :( and more old people games pffft breakin my heart BibleThump BibleThump BibleThump BibleThump
lit lo beardie BibleThump
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you guys love it :P Kreygasm at least their are still beat em ups
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sign up will be closed when the draft happens
http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20150119T1722&p0=64&msg=MAME+OLYMPICS+DRAFT (http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20150119T1722&p0=64&msg=MAME+OLYMPICS+DRAFT)
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WHHHHAAAAT MY FIGGHTING GAMES :( and more old people games pffft breakin my heart BibleThump BibleThump BibleThump BibleThump
What he said.
Hec
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draft results
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DIDl4Hzb-msO2CXi7ilYQKKSr08VdntKjIHiOujegic/edit#gid=1598955625
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If you missed the draft, you can watch the replay: http://www.twitch.tv/captainjivepants/c/5923255 (http://www.twitch.tv/captainjivepants/c/5923255)
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yer i got taken before BA lit <Sanders>
Are you guys going to make another scoreboard? Need help?
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Awesome...wasn't picked last haha.
colman paolo #1 and Wags #2...seems about right. Ross was a 3rd round steal for team CT. #postdraftanalysis
LIT! Kreygasm
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yer i got taken before BA lit <Sanders>
Are you guys going to make another scoreboard? Need help?
alex is currently in the process of making it, he is a god at databases i will ask him if he needs help
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Awesome...wasn't picked last haha.
colman paolo #1 and Wags #2...seems about right. Ross was a 3rd round steal for team CT. #postdraftanalysis
LIT! Kreygasm
tim hett in the 7th Kreygasm Kreygasm Kreygasm Kreygasm
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(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/16729527/team-starfoxpng.png)
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To my fellow team members,
it is a honor to have you aboard the Great Fox as the representatives for the Mame Olympics. I look forward to the strong competition and hope we all have a blast. Give it your all, and good luck
Team Captain, SFF2k9 signing off
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^^^
OMG so many tears BibleThump lit Kreygasm
<thefinger> other teams
Kappa
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Oh yer, Go team Starfox! Bestest in the world. lit! 8) BibleThump <pacman> <blinky>
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Team Starfox Kreygasm Kreygasm Kreygasm Kreygasm Kreygasm Kreygasm
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Oh yes, if anyone needs to get ahold of me, here are ways to contact me:email is cenarules24_7@hotmail.com
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updated 1st post
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I know it's very late, but can I still join this? I don't know how much I will be able to participate, but it sounds too fun to pass up.
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The fuck are the actual rules for this?
Is the scoring scheme actually laid out in writing anywhere? It obviously should be...
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number 6. is the scoring
http://www.retrouprising.com/contests/closed-contests/internet-gaming-bash-year/t15871/p2/#post276589 (http://www.retrouprising.com/contests/closed-contests/internet-gaming-bash-year/t15871/p2/#post276589)
ignore the weeks thing
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contest starts now scoreboard will be out soon
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use this for submissions
Mame Olympics (http://retrovg.herokuapp.com/games)
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we are allowing late entries to jump in
countdown
Generic Calendar/Clock - Countdown to Jan 28, 2015 11:59:59 PM in New York (http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20150128T235959&p0=179&msg=end+of+the+extended+sign+up+date)
sign up page
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1wOSqqPPtzmHayI3Affsi172IZ5tq85xKaAQo5srcsqA/viewform (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1wOSqqPPtzmHayI3Affsi172IZ5tq85xKaAQo5srcsqA/viewform)
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Ok to spark some drama I'm gonna post it. <gasp>
I think all games need to be played on MAME in the "MAME" Olympics. Way too many games in this have a HUGE advantage if played on the original cabinet due to control setups and some emulation issues (Defender apparently has huge lag issues with input). At least a list of games that must be played on MAME vs Cab is a start as several titles really don't matter much cab or mame (Rally-X, DK, Rtype, Mars Matrix, etc).
I'm cool with whatever people agree to as this is all in fun but feel its worth discussing before this gets too far down the road <Pigger>
Dan
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Some games also present an advantage playing on custom controls in MAME vs arcade controls. I still think player's choice is the way to go.
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Curious why this is called "MAME Olympics" at all, to be honest. Most of us will be playing MAME, most of the time, but it seems that the point is to compete at the games, with the platform not being particularly meaningful. (Not like a MARP tourney or RU tourney for example, where MAME is integral to the competition.)
Maybe if it were renamed "Arcade Olympics" we'd all be more comfortable. :)
As for the concern here with cab advantages, I think it balances out. And how many people actually have the games where owning a cab is advantageous? Maybe a few Trons out there, but I wonder if anyone has the driving games.
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What controls are people using to play Super Hangon? The default settings for keyboard are awful on RU.
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You can pretty much get any game to work with a keyboard, just need the practice. No different if I were to try and play a Tron cab, I'd have no idea what I'm doing as using a spinner and joystick etc is foreign to me. Keep in mind you can use ANYTHING on MAME....PS3/xbox controller, mouse, trackball. Find the right setup and you are almost at a certain advantage
Super hangon - I use "A" for accelerate and "left shift" for turbo. Can't remember if these are default or not
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Nah mate, the sensitivity is shit.
also yolympics Kreygasm
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Turn it up :)
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yolympics
I can get with this. <pacman> <blinky>
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Curious why this is called "MAME Olympics" at all, to be honest. Most of us will be playing MAME, most of the time, but it seems that the point is to compete at the games, with the platform not being particularly meaningful. (Not like a MARP tourney or RU tourney for example, where MAME is integral to the competition.)
Maybe if it were renamed "Arcade Olympics" we'd all be more comfortable. :)
As for the concern here with cab advantages, I think it balances out. And how many people actually have the games where owning a cab is advantageous? Maybe a few Trons out there, but I wonder if anyone has the driving games.
Yeah, seems like a pretty casual approach in general. I like the ease of it, the idea seems to be to get people playing the games and if it's too difficult less people will want to play. Cab, mame, which version of mame, who cares, just play some games and have some fun. These competitions are great! Kreygasm
<Tim>
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Curious why this is called "MAME Olympics" at all, to be honest. Most of us will be playing MAME, most of the time, but it seems that the point is to compete at the games, with the platform not being particularly meaningful. (Not like a MARP tourney or RU tourney for example, where MAME is integral to the competition.)
Maybe if it were renamed "Arcade Olympics" we'd all be more comfortable. :)
As for the concern here with cab advantages, I think it balances out. And how many people actually have the games where owning a cab is advantageous? Maybe a few Trons out there, but I wonder if anyone has the driving games.
Yeah, seems like a pretty casual approach in general. I like the ease of it, the idea seems to be to get people playing the games and if it's too difficult less people will want to play. Cab, mame, which version of mame, who cares, just play some games and have some fun. These competitions are great! Kreygasm
<Tim>
Nope its all good and I agree just wanted to clarify. :) - Actually some people have access to cabs no problem while others dont while everyone has access to mame so there is a slight difference here but hey I want everyone to play too so Kreygasm
Its ok there is a flipper mccoys about 45 minutes from my work I'll see if they have any of these driving games and if they are set to the settings here. I do think they have an Outrun so hell ill zoom out there and get an Outrun score and just take a photo. Is that cool that we at least have photos for the arcade cabs?
Dan
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team scores I come up with (lowest is best) for teams without 5 scores on a game they receive a placeholder score equal to the next available scoring position in the game. So if the game has 12 countable scores the placeholder score is 13 for all missing positions.
Starfox Cosmic Triggers Weeaboos Penis
Asteroids 29 29 59 65
Bubble Bobble 72 66 25 60
Burger Time 24 34 35 39
Defender 23 18 24 25
Donkey Kong 37 50 36 32
Elevator Action 66 38 53 50
Final Fight 47 37 64 61
Galaga 40 49 43 42
Ghosts'n Goblins 58 36 26 54
Joust 31 50 39 35
Mario Bros 44 67 47 46
Mars Matrix 45 49 38 50
Metal Black 48 39 34 53
Out Run 35 40 49 41
Pac Man 61 36 42 50
Pole Position 51 42 37 44
Popeye 33 55 42 35
Rally X 32 45 62 80
Road Blasters 29 30 23 23
R Type Leo 47 62 60 40
Smash TV 32 28 34 38
Sunset Riders 32 32 57 53
Super Hang On 39 65 55 48
Tapper 57 67 44 32
Tetris 45 86 45 49
Toobin 47 41 41 26
Tron 34 37 31 30
Zoo Keeper 37 38 56 51
1175 1266 1201 1252
sorry for the formatting
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Wow love it Jeff mate. Thanks for the run down
#teamstarfox
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Sorry for my ignorance here. A few questions:
1. Which version of MAME do we use? Is it WolfMAME 0.106?
2. Is RetroUprising already set to the proper settings (meaning we can safely use it)?
3. When do I get put on a team? Is there a second draft? I'm assuming I should wait to start posting scores until that's decided.
Danke schon!
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your on my team don
you can use any version of mame
all games except the ones in red are set properly on ru
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PFFqx-bKwgRT9dsjVFm1zO406yuUP1Z9bEZHQHQfp_c/edit
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Cool cool. I'll do my best!
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Sorry, another beginner question. Which version of Tetris is it on RU? There appear to be two identical:
http://www.retrouprising.com/arcade.php?act=Arcade&do=play&gameid=4915 (http://www.retrouprising.com/arcade.php?act=Arcade&do=play&gameid=4915)
http://www.retrouprising.com/arcade.php?act=Arcade&do=play&gameid=6463 (http://www.retrouprising.com/arcade.php?act=Arcade&do=play&gameid=6463)
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1st one
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Yeah the 2nd is commmmmmmmmmpletely different.
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Feel free to play the second one if you want your team to lose Kappa
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Team scores with new scoring framework: 1st=30 2nd=25 3rd=21 4th=18 5th=16 6th=15 ect. no placeholder scores added
Starfox Cosmic Triggers Weeaboos Penis
Asteroids 76 80 34 25
Bubble Bobble 50 41 89 44
Burger Time 62 68 34 51
Defender 37 55 32 15
Donkey Kong 39 19 50 94
Elevator Action 69 53 50 57
Final Fight 60 69 68 32
Galaga 86 25 56 53
Ghosts'n Goblins 27 45 99 31
Joust 73 30 30 61
Mario Bros 69 30 59 66
Mars Matrix 45 36 70 43
Metal Black 46 76 46 61
Out Run 83 43 42 47
Pac Man 47 73 62 47
Pole Position 35 83 43 59
Popeye 76 69 23 62
Rally X 86 51 57 36
Road Blasters 56 16 64 58
R Type Leo 46 57 49 78
Smash TV 53 61 65 36
Sunset Riders 74 64 33 56
Super Hang On 73 58 46 50
Tapper 44 27 66 90
Tetris 67 33 64 66
Toobin 31 23 70 91
Tron 54 27 67 61
Zoo Keeper 65 63 56 45
1629 1375 1524 1515
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new players can submit now
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week update
total submissions 1027
avging 6.11 submissions per hour
scoring so far
team number of scores and total points
1st. Starfox 130 1557
2nd. Penis 122 1511
3rd. Weeaboos 131 1362
4th. Cosmic Triggers 107 1245
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I can't edit the streaming G-Doc, but here's my channel: http://www.twitch.tv/donatreides (http://www.twitch.tv/donatreides)
I'll probably stream some Tetris later this week.
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Dammit! why did I take a 25+ year break from Tetris, Mario Bros., Final Fight, Galaga, Ghosts and Goblins and Bubble Bobble.
Hec
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LONG LIVE TEAM STARFOX
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up to 1800 scores
128 scores per day
5.35 scores per hour
out of 336 hours since the contest started there been
374 hours 00 mins 53 secs streaming
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does anyone want the contest to end march 1st at 11:59 est to give people another weekend?
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does anyone want the contest to end march 1st at 11:59 est to give people another weekend?
Kreygasm
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does anyone want the contest to end march 1st at 11:59 est to give people another weekend?
Extend it for a weekend and add 28 more games.
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And another draft
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And another awards show! 8)
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What we really need is a mid season all-star game!
A few trades or roster cuts could add some excitement. :P
Hec
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^This
Chuck Zerst on the Weeaboos. That would even it up nicely
Edit: Actually if skycrusher plays that will bring them up nicely
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Extend it thru the weekend. Have it end midnight eastern on Sunday. I support this.
Dan
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Extend it thru the weekend. Have it end midnight eastern on Sunday. I support this.
Dan
Sure, why not. Why end it in the middle of the weekend?
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I've been banging on about this for a while :)
Tim, Dan, and others so likeminded, post in the RU thread too and get that wolfie cage a-rattling
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updated 1st post march 1st ending date
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contest is over congrats to team penis for finishing 1st
ranking team points
1 Penis 1685
2 Cosmic Triggers 1603
3 Starfox 1505
4 Weeaboos 1087
thank you everyone that played in this.
some stat work
http://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14c4Hml2SfMqooO7fCzrKT2OZJs2zXy_tisq_OP4dTA0/edit?usp=sharing (http://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14c4Hml2SfMqooO7fCzrKT2OZJs2zXy_tisq_OP4dTA0/edit?usp=sharing)
streaming stats
http://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1BrpvIGaYiM8E8nQtCNs1cB5zyipi98XIwtCyw4Isnr4/edit?usp=sharing (http://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1BrpvIGaYiM8E8nQtCNs1cB5zyipi98XIwtCyw4Isnr4/edit?usp=sharing)
total scores submitted
2624
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Great stuff Wolf. So much awesome from everyone. <gasp>
Dan
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form for yolympics
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1kd8XIv_My_TMQoVrgk7YszPvmZ7PFSnM5hoEQI89F0E/viewform
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Feedback form hype. Lit
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Did a quick final results calc based on just the original draft.
Triggers win and Mases is the steal of the draft.
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I like the extra analysis from pwnasaurus. It does not re-rank scores so we know what they would have been, but I bet that would only further hurt the Penis since our second draft picks helped a lot. We'll have to get somebody to re-rank with and without the second draft, as well as without some of the "other late additions" (or assigning one to Weeaboos, in particular). So much analysis to be done.
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I like the extra analysis from pwnasaurus. It does not re-rank scores so we know what they would have been, but I bet that would only further hurt the Penis since our second draft picks helped a lot. We'll have to get somebody to re-rank with and without the second draft, as well as without some of the "other late additions" (or assigning one to Weeaboos, in particular). So much analysis to be done.
Ah good point, I'm no Wolf when it comes to this lol. Forgot to eliminate the new players from the individual games lists and so other first draft players get knocked down in some spots. Would be cool to see a complete 1st draft review for sure.
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yeah wags your numbers are off i put it in the yolympics stats took me about 15 mins lol
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Ha ha still had the result right at least <Pigger>
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Very interesting how close it was based on first draft only. Naturally, it's impossible to say how that would have changed what we all played when, but it probably would have been better than the large Penis lead. Wolf, can you please do the same thing including second draft, but exclude the "ringers" like syscrusher, Zerst, Ken House, and other non-draftees? I think that's where the Penis excelled outside of the free agent market.
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CT gets the honorable mention win!! :D - Wow interesting stuff how close it really was. I noticed the Top 16 people were 4 from each team. Really doesn't get much more balanced out then that. Kreygasm Kreygasm
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i forgot the points for asteroids before lol got it fixed and added the 1st and 2nd draft too
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An 11 point margin if we look at the 1st & 2nd rounds alone. That's pretty awesome. Aside from lack of participation on the Weeaboos team, I think the draft really made this as competitive as possible. Guess we'll just have to do it all over again and see what happens next time! Thanks again, Wolf!
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Jace confirmed no SotG Friday, so we will probably be filling that timeslot with awards on my stream. Hope you all can join us!
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9pm est for SIOTS and 10pm est for Yolympics?
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Do it Saturday! <mad>
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9pm est for SIOTS and 10pm est for Yolympics?
That is the plan. We are taking on that primetime slot, so I hope you are ready. Sorry we can't make it Saturday or Sunday, ChrisP (and any others who can't make it). This is the only night BDF and I both have open this week.
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SIOTS is not scheduled for Friday from what I can see. Something called FGC live is from 8pm - 10pm PST. There is a gap from 7pm - 8pm PST is that it?