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Offline Rosebud

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Mame4droid can I submit my score?
« on: September 01, 2019, 10:36:46 pm »
Hey my name is Hailey Miller. I am currently on the forum as an active streamer, and would like to discuss submitting my score to the forum. I currently play on Mame4droid (0.139u1) with a Mayflash F101 arcade stick with a Sanwa 4way restrictor plate, on DK US set 1. I do not have access to wolfmame or any other accepted platform, and would really like to submit my highscore of 141,700. Please let me know if I can submit my score or not. I would really appreciate it. Thank you. :)

Here is the link to my highlight PB run on Twitch:
http://www.twitch.tv/rosebud360/v/475262278?sr=a&t=3s
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Re: Mame4droid can I submit my score?
« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2019, 04:40:14 pm »
Hey everyone! I was told my submission of my score would be left up to the community to agree on. Can any of you members please voice your oppinion on this post? Any help would be greatly appreciated.  :)
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Re: Mame4droid can I submit my score?
« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2019, 04:48:21 pm »
Easy except lit congrats
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Re: Mame4droid can I submit my score?
« Reply #3 on: September 03, 2019, 05:17:53 pm »
It's an interesting question...

I'm going to assume there's been little discussion about it because nobody wants to sound like a jerk....

So, the whole verification process is really important.  Without it we'd have people submitting fake scores and trying to pass them off as legit (WHO WOULD DO THAT!?!)
That's why we have things like WolfMAME.  It's also why there's a requirement for people streaming their games from start to finish, taking video of the board etc....

I'm conflicted.  Very conflicted.

I believe in my heart that Rose would never try and submit a false score, but that doesn't mean someone else wouldn't.  An android version of MAME sounds exceedingly easy to rort when it comes to scores.  BUT, she does stream the games from start to finish and if we are good enought to pick up 'fingers' on a VHS tape, we should be able to determine if there's anything weird going on.     

BUT.... (again with the but...) how easy would it be for someone to just change the %'s on 800 smashes etc...  this is why the checksum is run on WolfMAME. 

I believe there was someone who was working on Wolfmame for droid at some point... but it looks like an abandoned project.    I would try compiling it and sideloading it etc.. but I am a busy man....   my time is not (yet) free.

What I think is perhaps we as a community should start a gofundme or something for Rose to get a laptop and someone sets it all up for her and G....

As Xelnia has said... 'This isn't the Pooyan forums.'
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Re: Mame4droid can I submit my score?
« Reply #4 on: September 03, 2019, 05:46:01 pm »
I'm torn too. Because I've watched and chatted to Hailey while she has streamed (and vice versa), and watched her game progress over the past months, I can vouch that the submission is accurate, truthful and not faked in any way.

That's fine for those that have the rest of us to vouch for them. But what about other people new to the game who haven't yet made the sort of connections that Hailey has? They too would need an avenue through which they can submit. Then it also stands to reason that some people will not be as legitimate as Hailey is. If there is no other verification avenue for droid, then we need to address the question of is dried acceptable, and if so, via what process.

Great game and don't give up getting better no matter what the outcome. We will find a way to get you up and running soon, and when u have a better setup (as in a laptop etc) your games will only get better again because you will be playing on gear that is easier to use that your current time screen setup.  :)

Either way, Hailey, in my eyes, you are sitting in approx rank 323 right now.
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Re: Mame4droid can I submit my score?
« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2019, 03:13:13 pm »
It just doesn't seem fair to everyone that has or will submit scores through the proper channels. Verifying things were done correctly and on the level helps maintain the integrity of the community.
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Re: Mame4droid can I submit my score?
« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2019, 03:57:28 pm »
Thanks for your thoughts, everyone. I asked Hailey to post this thread so we could get some community input. After all, this is still a community-approved, peer-reviewed high score list. To my knowledge no one has asked to submit a MAME4droid score before and I'm not intimately familiar with that platform. Therefore, I thought it best to get some insight from the community.

Matt pretty much hit the nail on the head...there's a combination of trust and verifiability at play here. There's no reason to think Hailey would be submitting fake scores, but we have no reliable way of verifying a MAME4droid performance. So, at this time, I don't think it's appropriate to accept MAME4droid scores on our leaderboard. WolfMAME and RetroUprising Score Mode will stand as the only acceptable MAME platforms.
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