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Title: Submitting scores from a Mac?
Post by: mrvaya on August 07, 2014, 09:41:39 am
Hi guys

Any way to submit scores from a Mac computer? I use sdlmame and could stream the inp on twitch?

I haven't read about others using Mac. Am I the only one on this forum?? <gasp>
Title: Re: Submitting scores from a Mac?
Post by: WCopeland on August 07, 2014, 12:43:37 pm
Would it be possible to use VMware or Parallels to run WolfMAME?
Title: Re: Submitting scores from a Mac?
Post by: marinomitch13 on August 07, 2014, 02:11:42 pm
If your comp can handle it, running parallels is fairly easy to do. I'm far overdo for a new computer, so my Mac is, unfortunately, too old to do this any more.  :-\
Title: Re: Submitting scores from a Mac?
Post by: mrvaya on August 07, 2014, 02:19:48 pm
Without knowing... I guess it would. But I am unsure of the reliability of using an emulator to run another emulator. Anyway it involves buying a version of Windows for the sole purpose of score-submitting, which I'm not a huge fan of.
Title: Re: Submitting scores from a Mac?
Post by: Donkey Kong Genius on August 07, 2014, 02:27:17 pm
Can you play it through Retro? The only exception that presently exists for not having to use Wolfmame is if you achieved a score through Retro Uprising.
Title: Re: Submitting scores from a Mac?
Post by: mrvaya on August 07, 2014, 02:56:55 pm
Can you play it through Retro? The only exception that presently exists for not having to use Wolfmame is if you achieved a score through Retro Uprising.
I just conducted a test - but no luck: Retro seems to be using the ArcadeOX-plugin, which needs Windows to be executed.
Its not a big deal for me (yet ;D) not to be able to submit scores. Just wondered why everything still seems so Windows-dependent. It shut out the exploding number of apple people.  ;D
Just though that if you could do a stream and had an imp-file for verification you were good to go. Seems not the case.
Title: Re: Submitting scores from a Mac?
Post by: WCopeland on August 07, 2014, 03:03:28 pm
Unfortunately not all inps are created equal... on "illegal" versions of MAME you'd never know if the game speed was changed or a pause was used. This is why the WolfMAME/RU requirement exists.

How about using Bootcamp? I've tried running WolfMAME 106 w/ Parallels on my Mac Pro, but I honestly had all sorts of issues.
Title: Re: Submitting scores from a Mac?
Post by: mrvaya on August 07, 2014, 03:10:39 pm
Unfortunately not all inps are created equal... on "illegal" versions of MAME you'd never know if the game speed was changed or a pause was used. This is why the WolfMAME/RU requirement exists.

How about using Bootcamp? I've tried running WolfMAME 106 w/ Parallels on my Mac Pro, but I honestly had all sorts of issues.
OK - I see about the INP's. Guess Bootcamp will still require a Windows-purchase, so thats not a option for me. But.. no harm done. I live without the score submission option. Does that mean that I'm not able to compete in the DK open either?
Title: Re: Submitting scores from a Mac?
Post by: mrvaya on August 07, 2014, 03:32:03 pm
Ok Wes. Then I must just accept not joining anything official.
Title: Re: Submitting scores from a Mac?
Post by: danman123456 on August 07, 2014, 04:15:38 pm
You can get with Eric and John and see if they have any acceptable options for Mac Users. You maybe out of luck at this time but it doesn't hurt to ask worse they can say is nothing available.

Dan
Title: Re: Submitting scores from a Mac?
Post by: JCHarrist on August 07, 2014, 04:47:10 pm
If you are playing from MAME for the DK Open you will be required to use WolfMAME 106

I don't see anything in the rules that states you must use .106.

It just says:

- DK arcade or DK MAME (US set 1) can both be used for score submissions (must use TG settings of 3 lives and a bonus life at 7000 points).
Title: Re: Submitting scores from a Mac?
Post by: WCopeland on August 07, 2014, 06:12:09 pm
My mistake -- you're right. I should've done better research before posting.

For what it's worth I've deleted that post.
Title: Re: Submitting scores from a Mac?
Post by: mrvaya on August 07, 2014, 10:42:12 pm
Does that mean that one are allowed to compete from any mame-version?

If so - it sounds weird that you are able to compete in a official tournament, reach certain scores, win prizes... But anyway the score does not qualify for the rankings?

From a consistent point of view I actually think that Wes' reasoning made sense even if that exclude myself from participating.
Title: Re: Submitting scores from a Mac?
Post by: WCopeland on August 08, 2014, 09:40:03 am
My interpretation at this point is yes you would be able to compete in a DKO using any version of MAME, however you would not able to submit your score to the official scoreboard unless it were WolfMAME 106 or RetroUprising.

Kind of wonky.
Title: Re: Submitting scores from a Mac?
Post by: Donkey Kong Genius on August 08, 2014, 11:08:22 am
Wes, I wanted to clarify here that the DKF HSL does allow other versions of Wolfmame besides .106

"All scores achieved on MAME must be done on WolfMAME version 0.106 or newer using only the "US Set 1" ROM set."
Title: Re: Submitting scores from a Mac?
Post by: WCopeland on August 08, 2014, 03:41:02 pm
fk i'm just gonna stop posting Kappa
Title: Re: Submitting scores from a Mac?
Post by: stella_blue on August 08, 2014, 11:01:33 pm
One of the HSL moderators should probably speak up.

Geez, where are those guys when you need them?   8)

EDIT:  I'll post something in a day or two.  But first, Jeremy and I will have to confer via PM.

Title: Re: Submitting scores from a Mac?
Post by: mrvaya on August 10, 2014, 10:27:24 am
Guess it would be a lot easier to confirm scores if mame-developers payed more attention to the competiveness of arcade gaming and made "no-cheat-tournament-editions" of their software. Why are there no focus on this part?? The first one to make an updated crossplatform version could perhaps be the new official software on all rankingsites. What do you think?
Title: Re: Submitting scores from a Mac?
Post by: gstrain on August 10, 2014, 11:52:20 am
Guess it would be a lot easier to confirm scores if mame-developers payed more attention to the competiveness of arcade gaming and made "no-cheat-tournament-editions" of their software. Why are there no focus on this part?? The first one to make an updated crossplatform version could perhaps be the new official software on all rankingsites. What do you think?
Source code diffs for WolfMAME are available so in theory you could build your own version for OS X based on the base SDLMAME versions and the WolfMAME code diff.  This requires a fair bit of technical skill though.  I think the demand for Mac and even Linux versions of WolfMAME has been low enough that nobody has stepped up and is generating executables for them for distribution each WolfMAME release.   Mahlemiut at MARP seems to sometimes be building Linux executables and making them available.

You can read more here http://forums.marpirc.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=14711&hilit=sdlmame&start=15 (http://forums.marpirc.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=14711&hilit=sdlmame&start=15)

WolfMAME source and executables are available at http://wolfmame.marpirc.net/ (http://wolfmame.marpirc.net/)

I'm not sure if you might run into compatibility issues with .inp files across platforms.  It's the same source, so in theory they should be cross platform, but I haven't seen anybody submit any SDLMAME based .inp files from OS X to MARP.  I have seen SDLMAME based .inp files from Linux and have had success playing them back in WolfMAME in Windows.

-George
Title: Re: Submitting scores from a Mac?
Post by: mrvaya on August 10, 2014, 04:02:46 pm
Hey George. Thank you very much for pointing me to that link. Looks very interesting if it is possible to make a wolfmame executable for mac. I tried to look into it - but for sure cannot figure out how to make it.

If anyone have technical insight to help it would be much appreciated.