Donkey Kong Forum
Related Games => Crazy Kong => Topic started by: Josephjo on December 05, 2013, 11:56:31 pm
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I've Pm'd Nick the link to add to the scoreboard. The score is already registered at #3.
Here it is if anyone wants to watch it now - Crazy Kong - KillScreen @Retrouprising (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QcmJE34rV0#)
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I haven't watched it yet, but I consider any score 600k or above to be freakin incredible. I'm not there yet, but I will be soon. I'll watch this vid soon, great score Tim!
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McAnus
lol...
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I haven't watched it yet, but I consider any score 600k or above to be freakin incredible. I'm not there yet, but I will be soon. I'll watch this vid soon, great score Tim!
I had a 662,xxx at the level 22-1 kill screen several months ago but accidentaly deleted the wolfmame file.
I did not use the level clear trick on L=22-1 as tg rules prohibited this, but now that the TG brand name rests along side other toxic substances like aspertame as retired brand names. I will next use all availible tricks to set a new high score i.e. drop hammer on level 2 on conveyor belts and level trick at L=22-1.
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I'm getting to the point where I can do the hammer drop a lot more consistently. I can do the barrel skip trick, but my top hammer still needs a LOT of work. 662k? Nice!
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Yes very nice score. I should try and up mine.
Dan
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Tim do you believe 700k is in your reach?
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The Reply button is no longer in Tim's reach...
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well said Jason, funny how trolling is only bad when its someone else doing it...and if your friends with admin you get a free pass to post whatever...
so, tims banned again, but its ok for people to continue posting snooty jibes at him when he cant reply...
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But, on the other side of things, it has to be said: Is it really all that hard to not make all your posts about anti-KoK, anti-TG rants? I mean, he couldn't even keep it allocated to his own rant thread. Is that the content we want DKF to get filled with ad nauseam?
To be fair, Tim could have at least grown up a little bit.
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dont get me wrong, if he cant get over it i think he should at least shut up about it...but thats his business, ill ignore it if i dont like it...
if he got banned for something other than a KOK rant i missed it...
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He's had his chance multiple times to be a valuable part of the community and he threw it away by constantly spewing the same thing over and over again about something that happened many years ago. He has threatened members of our community and that can't be tolerated. He even hijacked the Crazy Kong thread to talk about kok, no one fucks with Crazy Kong on my watch!
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The world is not fair. Life is rough, get a helmet.
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Jason, I think a question that's really in need of asking is whether the trolling actually bothered Tim. I don't think it did. In fact, I think he might have enjoyed it. He seems to get off on conflict and a "me versus the world" sort of attitude. Tim doesn't necessarily want to be treated the way you or someone else would want to be treated, so it's tricky to project your own standards onto him.
And of course the friendliness here is "selective". It IS the default, though, and you don't have to do a thing to earn it except not be a troublemaker, in which case, yeah, you might have a problem eliciting friendliness! Tim made his own bed here and was given every opportunity to fix it.
I guess I'm confused about what it is you're driving at here. Are you saying that Ethan (et al) bear responsibility for Tim's behavior on the forum that led to him being banned? Maybe you could clarify that?
I do think it's interesting that "the forum" tends to be held responsible every time somebody leaves or is banned. Personally I find THAT trend a lot more disturbing than people leaving. The forum can't be blamed for every individual's bad behavior, weird standards, or thin skins. There hasn't been a single dramatic departure that hasn't made me say "wht da?" They made the decision, and in literally every case while "hot" and without doing anything to actually seek resolution or work things out. Why is the responsibility never on them?
I also find this meme (mostly on Facebook) that the forum is somehow intimidating or hostile or insular to be endlessly bizarre. This is one of the friendliest forums I've ever seen.
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I do think it's interesting that "the forum" tends to be held responsible every time somebody leaves or is banned. Personally I find THAT trend a lot more disturbing than people leaving. The forum can't be blamed for every individual's bad behavior, weird standards, or thin skins. There hasn't been a single dramatic departure that hasn't made me say "wht da?" They made the decision, and in literally every case while "hot" and without doing anything to actually seek resolution or work things out. Why is the responsibility never on them?
yep
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Tim's first post on this forum- Posers and Hacks, socialist pace restrictions, TG and KOK rant, outright attack on everyone.
Tim's first week on this forum- Multiple mud-slung rebuttal threads regarding TG, KOK and Hollywood, Posers and Hacks.
The last few months- More than a handful of derailments in various threads. Intense name calling, specifically directed at Robbie, Ken, Billy, Steve, Walter, Sanders, Kuh, and TG. Words such as: Hollywood hipsters, democrats, fat-cats, yuppies, yuppie punks, posers, cheaters, Rom-juicers, conspirators, padded insiders, cultists, brainwashed fan-boys, weevie and bitchel lovers, etc. We were also told that the Kong Off was fixed, that the EP-roms were being selectively modified, to increase scores at the event, to generate hype and to feed the corporate machine. Many of the best players were either directly or indirectly insulted by the "million point scores do not fall off of trees" condemnation; a blatant discredit to their gaming prowess and ability to perform under pressure in a live competitive format.
My Opinions
I've learned to look past Tim's posts. In the first week, I didn't read any of the rebuttal threads; the whole thing was exhaustively nauseating. On a few occasions (thread posts) I reminded Tim that we as a community were not able to change the past, that we understood and respected his accomplishment at the time, had no control over the situation, asked what he would like us to do and reminded him that we had already been told this stuff ~25 times in the last 3 days; "we know" or something along those lines. As an active viewer of his stream "dk_f_symbols" I was generally open, kind and receptive to his rants, at the very least I was/am a faithful viewer of his stream. I spent nearly a week attempting to explain to him that the majority of the players understood his position, and that a descent majority of the members were not interested in the doc, or the history, but just playing the game in the here and now, the active competitive scene is what makes this game so appealing to many of us.
The verbal attacks on Ken were initiated by Tim on stream, while Ken was NOT a viewer, this argument concluded with Ken offering Tim large bounties for CAG scores; none of the bounties were accepted. Robbie may have disagreed with Tim's views regarding the KOK, Alex Jones and the NWO and has every right to, but he never called Tim names, simply disagreed with his beliefs. I watched a stream where Robbie was called all kinds of derogatory things, why? because he disagreed with Tims perspective. Instigation is in the eye of the beholder, these were not instances of Robbie and Ken preying upon poor little Tim.
The most recent incident was in no way instigated by me. The shoutbox was actively being fed "the rant" and I simply reminded him: we can not change the past, we told you we feel bad, you told us 30 times already (we're just telling each other the same stuff over and over :o). At the same time, a trip to the next kong off to "set the records straight" was announced and almost instantly turned upon me in the form of a physical threat. I was asked something along the lines of "then what?" and replied that I would prosecute in accordance with the law, like any normal, non-violent person would do in that event. I also explained that no one should ever want to physically harm another human for any reason, it's simply un-necessary. I also asked if 'I am being physically threatened for asking [Tim] not to repeat the same stuff that we cant fix?'
That was the extent of my interactions with Tim. I truly feel bad for the guy, but at the same time he is constantly attacking active or passive members of the DK community, and the thread derailment is quite burdening for new or newer members to sift through.
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Tim's first post on this forum- Posers and Hacks, socialist pace restrictions, TG and KOK rant, outright attack on everyone.
Tim's first week on this forum- Multiple mud-slung rebuttal threads regarding TG, KOK and Hollywood, Posers and Hacks.
The last few months- More than a handful of derailments in various threads. Intense name calling, specifically directed at Robbie, Ken, Billy, Steve, Walter, Sanders, Kuh, and TG. Words such as: Hollywood hipsters, democrats, fat-cats, yuppies, yuppie punks, posers, cheaters, Rom-juicers, conspirators, padded insiders, cultists, brainwashed fan-boys, weevie and bitchel lovers, etc. We were also told that the Kong Off was fixed, that the EP-roms were being selectively modified, to increase scores at the event, to generate hype and to feed the corporate machine. Many of the best players were either directly or indirectly insulted by the "million point scores do not fall off of trees" condemnation; a blatant discredit to their gaming prowess and ability to perform under pressure in a live competitive format.
My Opinions
I've learned to look past Tim's posts. In the first week, I didn't read any of the rebuttal threads; the whole thing was exhaustively nauseating. On a few occasions (thread posts) I reminded Tim that we as a community were not able to change the past, that we understood and respected his accomplishment at the time, had no control over the situation, asked what he would like us to do and reminded him that we had already been told this stuff ~25 times in the last 3 days; "we know" or something along those lines. As an active viewer of his stream "dk_f_symbols" I was generally open, kind and receptive to his rants, at the very least I was/am a faithful viewer of his stream. I spent nearly a week attempting to explain to him that the majority of the players understood his position, and that a descent majority of the members were not interested in the doc, or the history, but just playing the game in the here and now, the active competitive scene is what makes this game so appealing to many of us.
The verbal attacks on Ken were initiated by Tim on stream, while Ken was NOT a viewer, this argument concluded with Ken offering Tim large bounties for CAG scores; none of the bounties were accepted. Robbie may have disagreed with Tim's views regarding the KOK, Alex Jones and the NWO and has every right to, but he never called Tim names, simply disagreed with his beliefs. I watched a stream where Robbie was called all kinds of derogatory things, why? because he disagreed with Tims perspective. Instigation is in the eye of the beholder, these were not instances of Robbie and Ken preying upon poor little Tim.
The most recent incident was in no way instigated by me. The shoutbox was actively being fed "the rant" and I simply reminded him: we can not change the past, we told you we feel bad, you told us 30 times already (we're just telling each other the same stuff over and over :o). At the same time, a trip to the next kong off to "set the records straight" was announced and almost instantly turned upon me in the form of a physical threat. I was asked something along the lines of "then what?" and replied that I would prosecute in accordance with the law, like any normal, non-violent person would do in that event. I also explained that no one should ever want to physically harm another human for any reason, it's simply un-necessary. I also asked if 'I am being physically threatened for asking [Tim] not to repeat the same stuff that we cant fix?'
That was the extent of my interactions with Tim. I truly feel bad for the guy, but at the same time he is constantly attacking active or passive members of the DK community, and the thread derailment is quite burdening for new or newer members to sift through.
Ethan's first point is what frustrated me the most. We welcomed him into our community and that is what he gave back in return was insults. That's a good way to give off a bad impression to an entire community, along with constant reminders of how he got screwed. That's all and fine if you want to rant on the internet, but what do you want from us? We as a community are past the KOK and really just play for the competition and for the friendships made along the way. With the generosity that I have received on my road trip and seeing people go out of their way to help me out was an incredible experience, and I owe it to this community. When I see someone like this insulting the community, it really pisses me off. During his verbal attacks at Ken, he also took the time in his rant to call me a moron and a punk all because I stated an opinion. He even said my 1.07 at the Kong Off live was suspicious to him and that all 22 machines had been hacked. Really? As of late I have come to terms that he will never change his opinion and be furious at the situation like it happened yesterday. That will never change. Every time I go into his stream and bring up kok and how much I love it and the characters in it, I can tell he enjoys it so he has an excuse to rant about it. That's the type of personality he has. People have been wanting him to beat Billy and Steve's scores as that would be the best revenge for him at this point, but it's not just about that for him just money. I've been really trying to light a fire under his ass and then tell him to beat my score, because it seems like that is the only way to motivate him to beat Billy and Steve. Anyways for a while this forum has been surrounded about Tim, kok, and what to do about Tim and now we can move on from this, and watch Mrsteddybear and see what happens next.
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Ethan messaged me. I'll delete my posts. Issue dropped.
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fair comments guys, i dont think he was an innocent victim or anything... just that i saw several random digs on the forum recently and a bunch of trolling on his channel the other night, then hearing he was banned again just seemed really uncool to me, and a double standard...
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If anyone thinks that giving him a while to run his course and not immediately banning him for being disruptive and generally a waste of space reflects badly on this forum, I have literally no idea what to say to you.