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Wiebe's 885k

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RTM:
This was hard to find, a July 2003 news article regarding Steve's new world record score...

https://www.smh.com.au/technology/donkey-kong-enthusiast-earns-record-setting-score-20030808-gdh8cn.html

No mention of an earlier WR score was included. I am confident that whatever blurb Walter posted at that moment in Feb/02 was, at some point, retracted quickly as no one seems to have any recollection of it outside of the Jan/03 response by Rick Carter.

Snowflake:
oh boy i'm not gonna get in a big back and forth but i will try to clarify in case an honest confusion

correct, one cannot forget something which was never true, so perhaps first i should back up to the disagreement there

steve's score was entered. clearly if it wasnt, you could not forgot what did not happen, but if it was entered, and you know at the time it was entered, and you dont know that now it would mean forgot. my goodnes its never polite to say someone's wrong, but saying you forgot i think is a lot more polite way to adress it. i didnt say you lied. i gave you the benefit of the doubt that your erroneous information was due to an honest mistake

now if youd like to discuss whether or not it was a mistake, whether or not steve's score was in fact entered, please check the link i earlier provided you may find it jogs your memory

colecomeister:
RTM, I wanted to say at the outset that I may be misinterpreting your arguments, so I wanted to take a moment to clarify my understanding by walking through some of the points your raise.

It strikes me as incongruous to argue that "there is absolutely zero proof...that shows the existence of 885k on the TG scoreboard/database" and then cite the very evidence that was uncovered to confirm the score's existence - Walter's announcement and Rick's post, which was based on his review of the scoreboard in January 2003.

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthread.php/109558-Anyone-get-a-Million-pts.on-Donkey-Kong-&-questions?p=557734#post557734

To highlight the latter point, JJT begins that thread by asking if Mitchell achieved a million point DK game. In response, Rick writes, "Not sure if Billy ever did that or not. If he did it wasn't official cuz viewing the TG records Steve Wiebe has the record at 885,900. I really thought Billy had scored in the 920k range though...but perhaps wasn't verifiable."

Further proof of the score's existence can be found in your thread announcing Steve's 947k achievement.

https://web.archive.org/web/20031203042530/http://www.twingalaxies.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1253

In post #8, mandm785@juno writes "dumb question, but did Steve just do this? [the 947k score] The reason I ask is I looked at the score details, on the online scoreboard, and it says it was submitted on March 2, 02. Was this performance of over a year ago? Just made me curious when I saw this."

You remark in post #12 that due to a system bug with the original program, the dates can be a little screwy. However in actual fact this was the date that Steve's 885k score was confirmed in the database. If you google "Steve Wiebe" "885,900" you'll get a hit where there is a discussion about updating MAME related files. One individual uses the history.dat file associated with a DK distro - the information is clearly dated as it cites Steve Wiebe as the DK record holder with a score of 885,900 achieved on March 2, 2002.

You included a post from Walter ("Billy Mitchell scored 874,300 points at Twin Galaxies on November 7, 1982...") and indicate it makes no mention of Steve's 885k score as potential proof that the 885k score either didn't exist as an official or wasn't entered. The context of Walter's discussion concerns how Mitchell was portrayed in the King of Kong. Walter's argument is that - contrary to the opinion of the movie-going public, I guess - Mitchell was not obsessing over retaining the top DK score, and a pro-Billy TG administration was not running interference on his behalf. With this in mind, Walter's announcement of Steve's 885k score, which is accompanied by an announcement of Mitchell's forthcoming video tape submission of a higher score, would clearly undermine the core of his argument, and would provide a plausible rationale for its exclusion from his historical account.

I do think that the lack of fanfare or promotion around Wiebe's 885k score is noteworthy, but my conclusion is that the lack of promotion wasn't rooted in the score's absence from the leaderboard.

datagod:
I am starting to get the feeling that King of Kong was not a 100% accurate documentary.  :(

colecomeister:
"Is the movie accurate?" Sanders asked. "I would say yes. Is the movie fair? I would say no." He thinks Mitchell should ride the "King of Kong" infamy to some sort of success.

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